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Old 05-11-2016, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by big hammer
Lbo 5.0's are quite slow tho
Originally Posted by Its Stock
Yes. I did. First time ever at a track, first time ever launching my car, with wind and rain coming in and out. Best pass was 12.08 at 116. Best trap was 117. I only got to run 3 passes, couldn't figure out my launch within those 3 passes.

The 12.08 run would have been easy 11's but the car has this weird issue that neither me nor my tuner can find the cause to. I'll nail 3rd and the car lays over and cuts power for a few seconds, then regathers itself. It did it, of course, on the run where I had my best launch.

I did a 5k dump as well and the car smacked the bumpstops so that was a waste of a pass.

Not let down by my times whatsoever being that I've never ran the car on the track nor on the setup it has now. And my car is LBO. It's not a FBO setup.
I had that same issue with my Shelby. If the tires grabbed extra well in 2nd or 3rd gear at the track, sometimes it would fall over... it's clutch protection in the tune. Who tunes your car? I would give AED or Lund a try.
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Originally Posted by Nick.H
You said I was lying. Now you look stupid. That's all. I don't understand why you're wanting to argue with me about this. You don't have an LT1
Posting a random picture of an engine doesn't prove that you did anything to it. Who looks stupid again?

Originally Posted by 2003Cobro
Lol we earlier established that your new downhill acceleration video was about on par with a lbo 5.0. So clearly he would ruin you by like at least 2 bus lengths. Maybe if you could set up a run where he was going up hill and you were going downhill then you might have a chance.
Are you mad that I'd humiliate your old bolt on set up, and give your Whipple a run for its money? And the road was flat, just like that noodle you call a brain.

Originally Posted by big hammer
Lbo 5.0's are quite slow tho
Troof. They had all sorts of trouble with my Mystic Z.

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Old 05-11-2016, 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by DrLsx
Posting a random picture of an engine doesn't prove that you did anything to it. Who looks stupid again?



Are you mad that I'd humiliate your old bolt on set up, and give your Whipple a run for its money? And the road was flat, just like that noodle you call a brain.



Troof. They had all sorts of trouble with my Mystic Z.
Reverse Google search the image. You won't find anything because it came from my phone. I have receipts from the parts too
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Originally Posted by CyberGrey Z28
I ate humble pie my first time at the track. Good thing about the track is you learn about your set-up, sort it out and go faster
Quoted for troof. Unfortunately the humble pie keeps many from even trying.

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Originally Posted by Mappinsj
LOL bro i raced a car on wet roads and talked about it last year. Excuse me, "years old".

I genuinely don't care to argue with a bully such as yourself. I was earnestly confused as to why you jumped on me in a rude response after i said "troof".
Keep crying. Or pack your **** and leave again.

Originally Posted by Theblacknightls1
I'm just taking all this valuable info you're speaking about how the lt1 is far more superior to the ls. Well I'll tell you what how about I'll stick to the old ls base stuff. Ya know the slower underdog car and you stick with the lt1 stuff.
I could really care less what you do, but you sure seem bothered by facts.
Old 05-11-2016, 06:58 AM
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I have a sleep headache
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
Heads that flow the same are gonna be a big thing considering the valve angle and firing order

SBF and LS would be closer honestly they're closer than a SBC and an LS1
In overall design, yes. In HP, TRQ. Curves, not so much.
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Originally Posted by codyvette
In overall design, yes. In HP, TRQ. Curves, not so much.
Yeah the LS1 can't keep up when you even things on up
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Lol....wtf uou gonna even up when you start off with a 100hp deficit?
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Originally Posted by Theblacknightls1
My point. The LS1 is more superior! The "newer" ls1 has so many head designs and tunning because noone puts money into a lt1. Only the very few that still like those motors. Easier to make more power out of a LS. You don't usually see anyone get rid of their LS1 fbody to get into a LT1 fbody.
The LS1 does have a power advantage but not to the degree you claim. it is simply easier to work with and a better platform for upgrading...especially bigger cubes (400+). However a simple AI H/C package will put a LT1 in the 400-420whp range, run mid low 11's, and trap around 120 done right.

I am guessing you got into LS engines when most LT1's were getting ragged out, just like the poor LS1 combinations you see posted here all the time these days. As these platforms get cheaper to obtain, they tend to get modded out with ebay parts and are just plain mismatched combos. As a result you end up with heads cam 6.0's getting beat by cars that trap 114.
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Originally Posted by kinglt-1
The LS1 does have a power advantage but not to the degree you claim. it is simply easier to work with and a better platform for upgrading...especially bigger cubes (400+). However a simple AI H/C package will put a LT1 in the 400-420whp range, run mid low 11's, and trap around 120 done right.

I am guessing you got into LS engines when most LT1's were getting ragged out, just like the poor LS1 combinations you see posted here all the time these days. As these platforms get cheaper to obtain, they tend to get modded out with ebay parts and are just plain mismatched combos. As a result you end up with heads cam 6.0's getting beat by cars that trap 114.
114 trap h/c 6.0 is pretty good
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
114 trap h/c 6.0 is pretty good
I know right...almost what FBO LS1's trap.
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Originally Posted by kinglt-1
I know right...almost what FBO LS1's trap.
Normally more around 108-110 in that case
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Depends... plenty of 2001-2002 M6 cars trapped 108-110 stock.
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Plenty of heavier stock ls2 gto's trapin the same. A decent H/C/I combo should put 500/550 hp to the wheels.

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Originally Posted by kinglt-1
Depends... plenty of 2001-2002 M6 cars trapped 108-110 stock.
Mine trapped 108. We did free mods only to a friends ws6 and it trapped 110.

These guys simply don't know what a fcar is capable of.
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Originally Posted by hiossilver
mine trapped 108. We did free mods only to a friends ws6 and it trapped 110.

These guys simply don't know what a fcar is capable of.
true.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
These guys simply don't know what a fcar is capable of.
They don't try and find real world results then. There is so many damn LS1 4th gens in the 11 second club here it is silly. Mostly bolt on auto cars too.
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Originally Posted by Theblacknightls1



What are your plans with it ?
I may try and get it under the knife for a 5.3 or 6.0 boost build, but I'm focusing on my 5.0 for now.

Originally Posted by CyberGrey Z28
Not a bad baseline young grass-hopper. I ate humble pie my first time at the track. Good thing about the track is you learn about your set-up, sort it out and go faster
It was a learning experience. I definitely know of a few things I will be doing differently next time out.

Originally Posted by Poppacapp
I had that same issue with my Shelby. If the tires grabbed extra well in 2nd or 3rd gear at the track, sometimes it would fall over... it's clutch protection in the tune. Who tunes your car? I would give AED or Lund a try.
Lund tunes my car... He told me it can't be clutch protection as it's turned off in his manual tunes.
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Originally Posted by CamOnlyJabroni
They don't try and find real world results then. There is so many damn LS1 4th gens in the 11 second club here it is silly. Mostly bolt on auto cars too.
The way these guys like to average times they would **** if they averaged the top 25 ls1 list and the top 25 5br0 list. Only one or on tech would even make it on the ls1 list.

The hard running h/c cobro in this thread wouldn't make it either


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