*Place your bets* GT350 vs stock 6th gen
07-12-2016, 11:29 AM
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07-12-2016, 11:39 AM
#363
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Still has VVT. Not like it's gonna gain 66 horsepower from VVTI.
I don't even give a **** about it right now. GT350 obviously at a disadvantage since it can't change its own gears, but still its the faster car.
If the LT1 could make that much more power so easily then GM would have done it. Fact is they failed to put another big cube small block in the C7 Z06 despite trying, so they went back to the drawing board and went forced induction. That's a known fact.
I'm not saying the LT1 can't be improved, but to call it "dumbed down pretty good" is just a slap in the face to the engineers. It's a great package from a bean counter driven company that still has to meet budgets and stringent emissions.
I've said so many times that I'd love to see an LT7 make it way to the GM performance line up. Hell, I've been asking for one since they announced the next gen LT motors and crossed my fingers before the LT4 announcement. But that was back in 2012 and there's been nothing concrete from GM so far.
I don't even give a **** about it right now. GT350 obviously at a disadvantage since it can't change its own gears, but still its the faster car.
If the LT1 could make that much more power so easily then GM would have done it. Fact is they failed to put another big cube small block in the C7 Z06 despite trying, so they went back to the drawing board and went forced induction. That's a known fact.
I'm not saying the LT1 can't be improved, but to call it "dumbed down pretty good" is just a slap in the face to the engineers. It's a great package from a bean counter driven company that still has to meet budgets and stringent emissions.
I've said so many times that I'd love to see an LT7 make it way to the GM performance line up. Hell, I've been asking for one since they announced the next gen LT motors and crossed my fingers before the LT4 announcement. But that was back in 2012 and there's been nothing concrete from GM so far.
Lt1 and voodoo aren't really comparable. The lt1 was designed for X amount of hp and the best fuel economy that they could.
Ford threw fuel economy aside with the voodoo for a low production car and it shows.
I know people make fun of fuel economy ratings on a performance car but on a higher volume unit this is very important to manufacturers to meet CAFE requirements.
An LT1 could easily surpass the hp of the 5.2. But they are two different tools for different jobs.
07-12-2016, 11:47 AM
#364
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Lol Hio sometimes I wonder about you. It's ok man, your defiant till the very end. Far past it even haha
However by your contradicting logic, I don't see why you bother spouting off with z28 facts when the thread title clearly says 6th gen.
I'll go post in another thread and see if you have an answer there.
However by your contradicting logic, I don't see why you bother spouting off with z28 facts when the thread title clearly says 6th gen.
I'll go post in another thread and see if you have an answer there.
No need to check another thread. You left your stupid in this one.
Still has VVT. Not like it's gonna gain 66 horsepower from VVTI.
I don't even give a **** about it right now. GT350 obviously at a disadvantage since it can't change its own gears, but still its the faster car.
If the LT1 could make that much more power so easily then GM would have done it. Fact is they failed to put another big cube small block in the C7 Z06 despite trying, so they went back to the drawing board and went forced induction. That's a known fact.
I'm not saying the LT1 can't be improved, but to call it "dumbed down pretty good" is just a slap in the face to the engineers. It's a great package from a bean counter driven company that still has to meet budgets and stringent emissions.
I've said so many times that I'd love to see an LT7 make it way to the GM performance line up. Hell, I've been asking for one since they announced the next gen LT motors and crossed my fingers before the LT4 announcement. But that was back in 2012 and there's been nothing concrete from GM so far.
I don't even give a **** about it right now. GT350 obviously at a disadvantage since it can't change its own gears, but still its the faster car.
If the LT1 could make that much more power so easily then GM would have done it. Fact is they failed to put another big cube small block in the C7 Z06 despite trying, so they went back to the drawing board and went forced induction. That's a known fact.
I'm not saying the LT1 can't be improved, but to call it "dumbed down pretty good" is just a slap in the face to the engineers. It's a great package from a bean counter driven company that still has to meet budgets and stringent emissions.
I've said so many times that I'd love to see an LT7 make it way to the GM performance line up. Hell, I've been asking for one since they announced the next gen LT motors and crossed my fingers before the LT4 announcement. But that was back in 2012 and there's been nothing concrete from GM so far.
The gt350 has yet to prove it's faster. On the side by side speedo vid the camaro got to 140 faster. Idk about you but i selfom run to 140
Gm didn't need to give the lt more power. It already out runs everything furd has and meets cafe/eba regulations while getting more mpg than the mustang. That woukd equal a succes.
It is dumbed down as far as performance motors go. Smaller cam than the ls3 has which was pretty nutered. You will likely see 600whp h/c ones at dome point. Great potential they have
Lt7 would be a badass. But the rumor is the lt is getting a hp bump
07-12-2016, 11:52 AM
#366
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Just to clarify ......i don't like drag paks. They are really about the single most worse thing you can do to vehicle dynamics
07-12-2016, 11:54 AM
#368
If your calling me stupid then your calling yourself stupid and that's just stupid.
Title at the tippy top in bold clearly says gt350 vs sis gen. I guess it's ok to allow yourself special treatment to disregard your own strict rules.
Oo, and still no answer to my question huh? Figures
Title at the tippy top in bold clearly says gt350 vs sis gen. I guess it's ok to allow yourself special treatment to disregard your own strict rules.
Oo, and still no answer to my question huh? Figures
07-12-2016, 11:55 AM
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07-12-2016, 11:56 AM
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You dislike drag paks so much you own 2 sets of bogarts?
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07-12-2016, 12:20 PM
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Vvt and vvti are different. ...vvti having the advantage. Just the way it is. If gm throws all the tricks at the lt that furd did the 5.2 we won't be talking about 500hp engine anymore. There is not individual thing to gain the power.....the engine is a combination of parts.
The gt350 has yet to prove it's faster. On the side by side speedo vid the camaro got to 140 faster. Idk about you but i selfom run to 140
Gm didn't need to give the lt more power. It already out runs everything furd has and meets cafe/eba regulations while getting more mpg than the mustang. That woukd equal a succes.
It is dumbed down as far as performance motors go. Smaller cam than the ls3 has which was pretty nutered. You will likely see 600whp h/c ones at dome point. Great potential they have
Lt7 would be a badass. But the rumor is the lt is getting a hp bump
The gt350 has yet to prove it's faster. On the side by side speedo vid the camaro got to 140 faster. Idk about you but i selfom run to 140
Gm didn't need to give the lt more power. It already out runs everything furd has and meets cafe/eba regulations while getting more mpg than the mustang. That woukd equal a succes.
It is dumbed down as far as performance motors go. Smaller cam than the ls3 has which was pretty nutered. You will likely see 600whp h/c ones at dome point. Great potential they have
Lt7 would be a badass. But the rumor is the lt is getting a hp bump
So you basically want GM to build an LT1 that's DOHC, 32v, flat plane crank V8 with VVTI, 12.0:1 CR, rev to 8250 RPM, and have a forged bottom end. So basically a Voodoo with 1.0L more displacement and a GM stamp on the engine? I mean if the Voodoo was a whole new block that's 6.2L it could easily make over 600hp. Bump up to a 9k red line, more aggressive cams, and tuning could easily put a 6.2L Voodoo in 650hp range. The current Voodoo is actually pretty tame driving around town. It has a heavy clutch and flywheel assy like the 6gen does.
It'll be interesting to see if anyone ever builds a Voodoo. I wouldn't expect a big aftermarket since the production numbers are tiny.
A bench racing speedo video doesn't really mean anything, you already know that man.
It doesn't outrun the GT350 and certainly doesn't outrun the R.
I wouldn't be surprised if they made a hotter version of the LT1 for the new Z/28. I hope it's at least 500hp.
07-12-2016, 12:22 PM
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07-12-2016, 12:26 PM
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Further more a C7 vette on a tire has a best run of 12.497 @ 116.04 at my track, so it looks like the centri car didn't do too bad at all.
07-12-2016, 12:51 PM
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07-12-2016, 12:56 PM
#379
Might be 1ss for me...see how the funds look over the next couple years.
He has beaten an e85 5.0 on the track and from rolls. Would beat your stock car handily.
6g has trapped up to 120 stock. Highest stock trap on m6g is 113 mph. Your 115 stock trap is one of the highest of all time. Congrats. Still 5 mph behind the 6g.
6g has trapped up to 120 stock. Highest stock trap on m6g is 113 mph. Your 115 stock trap is one of the highest of all time. Congrats. Still 5 mph behind the 6g.
