Run in with a new C7 GS....some notes...
10-06-2017, 01:08 PM
#41
I am 10,000% right. The fact you posted a article with a windsor that needed a stroker crank in their "budget" build to get to 400+ci proves that. Are you really this **** stupid snowflake?
I can get to 406 with no aftermarket **** in a sbc. Simple "budget" rebuild. The fact that hotrod figured they would stroke off the furd guys a bit don't mean ****. While they were informing dumbasses like yourself about stuff like omg omg you can put a 4.1 stroke in a windsor.........they forgot to say the 400 sbc comes with a 4.125 bore and can go to atleast 4.155. Which by the way gets the sbc to a 434 with a 4" stroke and a little grinding you can do on your workbench......which your windsor needed to. With that much more bore how do you think that will affect breathing/valve diameter?
You fail once again snowflake.
I can get to 406 with no aftermarket **** in a sbc. Simple "budget" rebuild. The fact that hotrod figured they would stroke off the furd guys a bit don't mean ****. While they were informing dumbasses like yourself about stuff like omg omg you can put a 4.1 stroke in a windsor.........they forgot to say the 400 sbc comes with a 4.125 bore and can go to atleast 4.155. Which by the way gets the sbc to a 434 with a 4" stroke and a little grinding you can do on your workbench......which your windsor needed to. With that much more bore how do you think that will affect breathing/valve diameter?
You fail once again snowflake.
Anyway, by your own stipulations of no aftermarket heads, lets look at your 400... With the factory vortec head, it made 376hp/448tq.
http://www.hotrod.com/articles/ccrp-...ster-for-2500/
A 351W build with a GT40 head. 391hp/404tq
http://www.hotrod.com/articles/build...d-351-windsor/
My next prediction, more stipulations.
10-06-2017, 01:23 PM
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10-06-2017, 01:44 PM
#43
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I have no dog in this discussion, but seeing how Hio responded to the engine building challenge, the Chevy motor made more torque, thus it is the more powerful engine.
10-06-2017, 01:54 PM
#45
http://www.hotrod.com/articles/hrdp-...-engine-build/
10-06-2017, 03:32 PM
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It just shows they have next to no knowledge of SBF anything. They've all ditched their factory GM engines, too Then again if I just followed the internet's advice on modding my LS1 and ran slower than a MBO 5.bro, I'd probably turbo my engine swapped third gen, too
10-06-2017, 04:58 PM
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See, stipulations. I've got your number there big guy. You never have a problem with strokers or aftermarket, when it's in GM's favor.
Anyway, by your own stipulations of no aftermarket heads, lets look at your 400... With the factory vortec head, it made 376hp/448tq.
http://www.hotrod.com/articles/ccrp-...ster-for-2500/
A 351W build with a GT40 head. 391hp/404tq
http://www.hotrod.com/articles/build...d-351-windsor/
My next prediction, more stipulations.
Anyway, by your own stipulations of no aftermarket heads, lets look at your 400... With the factory vortec head, it made 376hp/448tq.
http://www.hotrod.com/articles/ccrp-...ster-for-2500/
A 351W build with a GT40 head. 391hp/404tq
http://www.hotrod.com/articles/build...d-351-windsor/
My next prediction, more stipulations.
Oh I can go to a 400M if that's the case, which is more comparable to a 400 chevy anyway. Both are black sheep that no one really messes with, both are torque monsters. Spoiler alert, the 400m makes 380/468.
http://www.hotrod.com/articles/hrdp-...-engine-build/
http://www.hotrod.com/articles/hrdp-...-engine-build/
So i guess you want to compare the 396 or 402 now? But wait....i don't have to stop there either. I also don6need another trans to make all this **** work
10-06-2017, 05:18 PM
#48
I had no stips. Merely point out valid **** that are differences that you did not know. Sucks you can't tell the difference between a stip and factual information snowflake.
Look at this done made the man ....well chump change engines. To a big block nonetheless.
So i guess you want to compare the 396 or 402 now? But wait....i don't have to stop there either. I also don6need another trans to make all this **** work
Look at this done made the man ....well chump change engines. To a big block nonetheless.
So i guess you want to compare the 396 or 402 now? But wait....i don't have to stop there either. I also don6need another trans to make all this **** work
10-06-2017, 11:00 PM
#49
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So you wouldn't consider a block with a taller deck height than a bbc a bigblock? What about one using a bbf transmission? Leads me to think big block.
I have no stipulations. You simply don't know wtf you're talking about. Since you could'nt win the argument you changed the rules. .....typical snowflake ***** bitch **** goin on with you.
I simply adjusted my engine to yours. You did this....not me.
I have no stipulations. You simply don't know wtf you're talking about. Since you could'nt win the argument you changed the rules. .....typical snowflake ***** bitch **** goin on with you.
I simply adjusted my engine to yours. You did this....not me.
10-07-2017, 12:10 AM
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You use 1/4 mile times as a benchmark until the guy on here who rapes your post with logic, gets beat, by a car that actually trapped the same he did and makes more power, you just choose to only mention his 114 trap. Then suddenly it's about roll racing which you've denounced a million times.
I got beat in a roll race by a car with more power, but your blown termi notch runs 12s
I'd take my scenario over yours 
2 out of 3, bobble remember that.
I got beat in a roll race by a car with more power, but your blown termi notch runs 12s
I'd take my scenario over yours 2 out of 3, bobble
remember that.
10-07-2017, 12:18 AM
#51
So you wouldn't consider a block with a taller deck height than a bbc a bigblock? What about one using a bbf transmission? Leads me to think big block.
I have no stipulations. You simply don't know wtf you're talking about. Since you could'nt win the argument you changed the rules. .....typical snowflake ***** bitch **** goin on with you.
I simply adjusted my engine to yours. You did this....not me.
I have no stipulations. You simply don't know wtf you're talking about. Since you could'nt win the argument you changed the rules. .....typical snowflake ***** bitch **** goin on with you.
I simply adjusted my engine to yours. You did this....not me.
Now you're going with the denial route. Ignoring the 351w build that I posted and rambling about how I changed the rules...
So yeah, stips and denial, classic hio. Keep gobbling that chevy ****.
10-07-2017, 07:14 AM
#53
There is so little power difference once you modify an older generation SB from either camp, arguing about make the lot of you look extremely ignorant. While I know ignorance isn't really present here, things get really cloudy from the childish whining. Both sides have come up with, stolen, borrowed, and copied many great ideas. Most of the engineers that work for and have worked in the past for these companies, have worked for both and even those slow as Dodge guys. LOL IF you guys want to prove something, build a "budget" beater drag car and the winner takes the other camps car and enters a crash up dirby with it. That would be ****, and actually entertaining.
10-07-2017, 02:56 PM
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10-07-2017, 05:54 PM
#58
Nothing fancy just a low 10 sec(calculated) manual that gets driven on the streets.
10-07-2017, 06:45 PM
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10-07-2017, 09:03 PM
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to answer your question, I don't give a **** what a GS weighs.