LT1 camero. Fastest stock NA pony car ever?
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You posted bullshit you know nothing about.
Then you post a highly modified car racing stock car.
The only trust worthy way to look at this is stock times from mags.....of which the z28 and lt1 is easily faster than a boss or 5br0. In all honesty 5br0 are pretty unimpressive.
Z28s are a nice piece and handed the Boss it's *** in more ways than one.
Then you post a highly modified car racing stock car.
The only trust worthy way to look at this is stock times from mags.....of which the z28 and lt1 is easily faster than a boss or 5br0. In all honesty 5br0 are pretty unimpressive.
Z28s are a nice piece and handed the Boss it's *** in more ways than one.
You posted bullshit you know nothing about.
Then you post a highly modified car racing stock car.
The only trust worthy way to look at this is stock times from mags.....of which the z28 and lt1 is easily faster than a boss or 5br0. In all honesty 5br0 are pretty unimpressive.
Z28s are a nice piece and handed the Boss it's *** in more ways than one.
Then you post a highly modified car racing stock car.
The only trust worthy way to look at this is stock times from mags.....of which the z28 and lt1 is easily faster than a boss or 5br0. In all honesty 5br0 are pretty unimpressive.
Z28s are a nice piece and handed the Boss it's *** in more ways than one.
On top of that the 5.voopoo has to work much harder just to keep up.
With both uncorked with no tm the z28 will dominate it.
I love how your car is a mild factory build, but a header/intake/tune mustang is "highly modified". Then I love how when a magazine runs 13.8 in an LS1 Z28, they're shitty drivers and Evan Smith ran 12's stock, but when a Mustang runs 11.72 with a tire, smoking the z28, then magazine times are important. But no worries, I can play that game and watch your GM nuthugger *** backpedal and dance around. Motortrend ran 12.3@116 in the Z28, and they ran 12.3@116 in the 2012 Boss 302, and they ran 12.3@117 in the GT350, and they ran 12.1@119 in the GT350R. Road and track ran 12.2@118 in the z28 and 12.3@117 in a Laguna Seca Boss, and a 12.3@118 in the GT350R. All of which is easily in the margin of DA and driver skill, especially with stick cars. So, like I said, drivers race all day long and nowhere near the domination that exists only in your head.
The Boss tested a more realistic 12.9@112 too. But that's ok....if you want to believe a boss is as fast and the +80 hp gt350 then you prove tprove that hp ain't ****.
btw the gt350r is a 2 seater more comparable to a vette.....hence the z28 smokes the gt350.
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It does....it always does. But you can't use electronic and/or mechanical tq management to hold it back. And that's what you see there.
On top of that the 5.voopoo has to work much harder just to keep up.
With both uncorked with no tm the z28 will dominate it.
When one car is completely stock and the other car is fbo then yes the fbo car is highly modified vs the stock car.
The Boss tested a more realistic 12.9@112 too. But that's ok....if you want to believe a boss is as fast and the +80 hp gt350 then you prove tprove that hp ain't ****.
btw the gt350r is a 2 seater more comparable to a vette.....hence the z28 smokes the gt350.
On top of that the 5.voopoo has to work much harder just to keep up.
With both uncorked with no tm the z28 will dominate it.
When one car is completely stock and the other car is fbo then yes the fbo car is highly modified vs the stock car.
The Boss tested a more realistic 12.9@112 too. But that's ok....if you want to believe a boss is as fast and the +80 hp gt350 then you prove tprove that hp ain't ****.
btw the gt350r is a 2 seater more comparable to a vette.....hence the z28 smokes the gt350.
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The GT350 put down a greater amount of torque for the given period of time of the race therefore it had greater acceleration.
Torque over time is torque with a rate, torque with a rate is called power.
Horsepower is a unit of power which is why it is ultimately HP (or kW, or W) and weight which it the ultimate predictor of acceleration rate.
Don’t try to explain what you don’t understand,
imbecile
On top of that the 5.voopoo has to work much harder just to keep up.
As bad as the Voodoo was, the LS7 was worse.
I’ve never seen another engine that go through valve guides at the oil change interval like that “barely working” LS7.
With both uncorked with no tm the z28 will dominate it.
We know you like to use words you don’t know the meaning of.
Try to be specific
The Boss tested a more realistic 12.9@112 too. But that's ok....if you want to believe a boss is as fast and the +80 hp gt350 then you prove tprove that hp ain't ****.
btw the gt350r is a 2 seater more comparable to a vette.....hence the z28 smokes the gt350.
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It does....it always does. But you can't use electronic and/or mechanical tq management to hold it back. And that's what you see there.
On top of that the 5.voopoo has to work much harder just to keep up.
With both uncorked with no tm the z28 will dominate it.
When one car is completely stock and the other car is fbo then yes the fbo car is highly modified vs the stock car.
The Boss tested a more realistic 12.9@112 too. But that's ok....if you want to believe a boss is as fast and the +80 hp gt350 then you prove prove that hp ain't ****.
btw the gt350r is a 2 seater more comparable to a vette.....hence the z28 smokes the gt350.
On top of that the 5.voopoo has to work much harder just to keep up.
With both uncorked with no tm the z28 will dominate it.
When one car is completely stock and the other car is fbo then yes the fbo car is highly modified vs the stock car.
The Boss tested a more realistic 12.9@112 too. But that's ok....if you want to believe a boss is as fast and the +80 hp gt350 then you prove prove that hp ain't ****.
btw the gt350r is a 2 seater more comparable to a vette.....hence the z28 smokes the gt350.
GT350 is a vette because of a 20lb rear seat delete? lmfao yeah ok Forrest.
Electronic and/or mechanical TQ management didn’t change the outcome of the race.
The GT350 put down a greater amount of torque for the given period of time of the race therefore it had greater acceleration.
Torque over time is torque with a rate, torque with a rate is called power.
Horsepower is a unit of power which is why it is ultimately HP (or kW, or W) and weight which it the ultimate predictor of acceleration rate.
Don’t try to explain what you don’t understand,
imbecile
What kind of ridiculous criteria is this?
As bad as the Voodoo was, the LS7 was worse.
I’ve never seen another engine that go through valve guides at the oil change interval like that “barely working” LS7.
What does “uncorked” mean in this sentence.
We know you like to use words you don’t know the meaning of.
Try to be specific
That’s equivalent to a stock F-Body M6 making about 13.5-13.6 @ 103-104 pass. Yes everyone has seen it happen but in not what the car is capable of.
Ah, the mental gymastics of a stunted mind.
The GT350 put down a greater amount of torque for the given period of time of the race therefore it had greater acceleration.
Torque over time is torque with a rate, torque with a rate is called power.
Horsepower is a unit of power which is why it is ultimately HP (or kW, or W) and weight which it the ultimate predictor of acceleration rate.
Don’t try to explain what you don’t understand,
imbecile
What kind of ridiculous criteria is this?
As bad as the Voodoo was, the LS7 was worse.
I’ve never seen another engine that go through valve guides at the oil change interval like that “barely working” LS7.
What does “uncorked” mean in this sentence.
We know you like to use words you don’t know the meaning of.
Try to be specific
That’s equivalent to a stock F-Body M6 making about 13.5-13.6 @ 103-104 pass. Yes everyone has seen it happen but in not what the car is capable of.
Ah, the mental gymastics of a stunted mind.
Idk what any of that is. You post **** with no detes....just bullshit.
Now post something about your own **** or stfu
you furd bitch boi's cry about the 2seater vette all the time. This is no different.....and it's more than 20lb. The seats will weigh more than 20lb alone and then there's the seat belt mechanism that gets deleted to.
For those of you that think tm beit mechanical or electronic I turned off one portion on it in my truck and it picked up .3 in the qtr.....just one portion of it electronically. But nah...that wouldn't change the outcome of a race. Better acceleration never changes that....nope can't happen.🤣🤣🤣
Then there's the mechanical tq management that you dumbfuck furd boi's know nothing about. It's funny watching you stupid ***** cry but yet none of you na builds can keep up even a little. You 3 furd fucktards can't even come up with a 11sec na modcrapper between ya🤣🤣
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All that just to tell us you don't know what the **** your dumb **** *** is talking about. You really have zero ******* clue if you think tq management don't change the outcome of a race.....like none. The only experience you have is getting railed in your ***. Because you have none with cars which is obvious by your posts.
PROVE YOUR CLAIM
All I said the torque management didn’t change the outcome of the race because their trap speeds accurately reflect their power to weight. Dumbfuck
Idk what any of that is. You post **** with no detes....
Now post something about your own **** or stfu
so you're saying tq management don't affect the outcome of a race......lolz...ok
I said torque management didn’t change the outcome of THIS race.
you furd bitch boi's cry about the 2seater vette all the time. This is no different.....and it's more than 20lb. The seats will weigh more than 20lb alone and then there's the seat belt mechanism that gets deleted to.
For those of you that think tm beit mechanical or electronic I turned off one portion on it in my truck and it picked up .3 in the qtr.....just one portion of it electronically. But nah...that wouldn't change the outcome of a race. Better acceleration never changes that....nope can't happen.🤣🤣🤣
How many tenths did torque management cost the GT350?
Then there's the mechanical tq management that you dumbfuck furd boi's know nothing about. It's funny watching you stupid ***** cry but yet none of you na builds can keep up even a little. You 3 furd fucktards can't even come up with a 11sec na modcrapper between ya🤣🤣
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All that just to tell us you don't know what the **** your dumb **** *** is talking about. You really have zero ******* clue if you think tq management don't change the outcome of a race.....like none. The only experience you have is getting railed in your ***. Because you have none with cars which is obvious by your posts.
Idk what any of that is. You post **** with no detes....just bullshit.
Now post something about your own **** or stfu
so you're saying tq management don't affect the outcome of a race......lolz...ok
you furd bitch boi's cry about the 2seater vette all the time. This is no different.....and it's more than 20lb. The seats will weigh more than 20lb alone and then there's the seat belt mechanism that gets deleted to.
For those of you that think tm beit mechanical or electronic I turned off one portion on it in my truck and it picked up .3 in the qtr.....just one portion of it electronically. But nah...that wouldn't change the outcome of a race. Better acceleration never changes that....nope can't happen.🤣🤣🤣
Then there's the mechanical tq management that you dumbfuck furd boi's know nothing about. It's funny watching you stupid ***** cry but yet none of you na builds can keep up even a little. You 3 furd fucktards can't even come up with a 11sec na modcrapper between ya🤣🤣
Idk what any of that is. You post **** with no detes....just bullshit.
Now post something about your own **** or stfu
so you're saying tq management don't affect the outcome of a race......lolz...ok
you furd bitch boi's cry about the 2seater vette all the time. This is no different.....and it's more than 20lb. The seats will weigh more than 20lb alone and then there's the seat belt mechanism that gets deleted to.
For those of you that think tm beit mechanical or electronic I turned off one portion on it in my truck and it picked up .3 in the qtr.....just one portion of it electronically. But nah...that wouldn't change the outcome of a race. Better acceleration never changes that....nope can't happen.🤣🤣🤣
Then there's the mechanical tq management that you dumbfuck furd boi's know nothing about. It's funny watching you stupid ***** cry but yet none of you na builds can keep up even a little. You 3 furd fucktards can't even come up with a 11sec na modcrapper between ya🤣🤣
Nobody here "cries" about a vette. You yet again are confused.
It does....it always does. But you can't use electronic and/or mechanical tq management to hold it back. And that's what you see there.
On top of that the 5.voopoo has to work much harder just to keep up.
With both uncorked with no tm the z28 will dominate it.
When one car is completely stock and the other car is fbo then yes the fbo car is highly modified vs the stock car.
The Boss tested a more realistic 12.9@112 too. But that's ok....if you want to believe a boss is as fast and the +80 hp gt350 then you prove tprove that hp ain't ****.
btw the gt350r is a 2 seater more comparable to a vette.....hence the z28 smokes the gt350.
On top of that the 5.voopoo has to work much harder just to keep up.
With both uncorked with no tm the z28 will dominate it.
When one car is completely stock and the other car is fbo then yes the fbo car is highly modified vs the stock car.
The Boss tested a more realistic 12.9@112 too. But that's ok....if you want to believe a boss is as fast and the +80 hp gt350 then you prove tprove that hp ain't ****.
btw the gt350r is a 2 seater more comparable to a vette.....hence the z28 smokes the gt350.
You made the claim the torque management gave the Z28 the loss.
PROVE YOUR CLAIM
All I said the torque management didn’t change the outcome of the race because their trap speeds accurately reflect their power to weight. Dumbfuck
I know you don’t and that’s your problem.
What I own, don’t own, have built or haven’t built is totally irrelevant to me pointing out you have no idea WTF you’re talking about.
No, that’s not what I said you illiterate ****.
I said torque management didn’t change the outcome of THIS race.
BUT IT DID
All that blubbering just to deflect from the FACT that torque ≠ power
How many tenths did torque management cost the Z28?
How many tenths did torque management cost the GT350?
You need to realize that you’re the technically ignorant person here. You’re the dumbest guy in the room as always
PROVE YOUR CLAIM
All I said the torque management didn’t change the outcome of the race because their trap speeds accurately reflect their power to weight. Dumbfuck
I know you don’t and that’s your problem.
What I own, don’t own, have built or haven’t built is totally irrelevant to me pointing out you have no idea WTF you’re talking about.
No, that’s not what I said you illiterate ****.
I said torque management didn’t change the outcome of THIS race.
BUT IT DID
All that blubbering just to deflect from the FACT that torque ≠ power
How many tenths did torque management cost the Z28?
How many tenths did torque management cost the GT350?
You need to realize that you’re the technically ignorant person here. You’re the dumbest guy in the room as always
Since you're such a great furd turd you shoulda done tested it to know.....but you're really just a less that average idiot that spews bullshit out your stank mouf. BECAUSE WHAT YOU DO OWN AND WHAT YOU HAVE BUILT DOES MATTER.....you ******* clueless moron
Both of you 2 morons are a ******* clown. Neither of you has done anything na to even keep up with a ls1 with no ******* headers🤣🤣🤣
I guess both of you coulda probably took my bolt on ls6 and made it run 9s. If yall woulda had any say in say 346 build it woulda probably made 600whp if you weren't so eat up with not believing it.......so in the end this dumbass hillbilly has made yall look ******* stupid with just a basic understanding of cars🤣🤣🤣🤣
other than that i see no ******* reason to decipher yalls bullshit.
Intake, Header, Tune = Highly modified FBO.... Okie Dokie, then your holesawed, engine swapped, faceplated trans POS is clearly a full race build. Well hell, the 5th gen Z28 also ran a 12.7, not to mention a 98 Trans Am running a 14.0. Out of 7 magazine tested Boss 302's, 2 of them ran slower than 12.4, both from Car and Driver, and both were complaining about traction. Signs of being a nuthugger is cherry picking an outlier that fits your narrative, and ignoring the 70% of examples that don't fit. GT350 weighs a lot more than the boss.
Wasn't there a boss bolt on build on here back in the day??? Oohh yea there was and it was no faster than 5br0s. Boss's weren't that fast....but hey you can probably find some yt vids where you don't actually know wtf was done eehh.
Meanwhile you've actually done ******* nothing of your own.
tell the class about your 14sec 4v build.
Wasn't there a boss bolt on build on here back in the day??? Oohh yea there was and it was no faster than 5br0s. Boss's weren't that fast....but hey you can probably find some yt vids where you don't actually know wtf was done eehh.
Meanwhile you've actually done ******* nothing of your own.
Wasn't there a boss bolt on build on here back in the day??? Oohh yea there was and it was no faster than 5br0s. Boss's weren't that fast....but hey you can probably find some yt vids where you don't actually know wtf was done eehh.
Meanwhile you've actually done ******* nothing of your own.
So it took furd nearly 10 ******* years to catch up......to a chassis and engine from the mid 2000s??? And using a a10......gtfo. the stick car dark turd went 12.5@115.....and you idiots still probably think a boss is faster.
And ALL OF THEM WITH LESS TM THAN THE Z28.
Yall simply don't know but you'll sure run your mouf about it.
Tell us more about all your racing experiences. Especially the furd stuff. 😆😆🤣🤣
Meanwhile....the 6gen has still been faster than a dark turd.
And ALL OF THEM WITH LESS TM THAN THE Z28.
Yall simply don't know but you'll sure run your mouf about it.
Tell us more about all your racing experiences. Especially the furd stuff. 😆😆🤣🤣
Meanwhile....the 6gen has still been faster than a dark turd.