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Old May 22, 2005 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by danno_SS
That's not how it works. In order to get distance between two cars you have to integrate the difference in relative velocity between the two. A more accurate way would be to double integrate the difference in acceleration.

Here's a mathematically correct rough estimate (assuming constant difference in acceleration).
1/4 mi. trap speed difference (EVO-Fbod): 117-107 = 10 mph
1/4 mi. trap speed difference in ft/s: 10(mi/hr)*3280(ft/mi)*(1hr/3600sec) = 9.111ft/sec
Integrate speed for race duration (assume 1/4 mi = 12 sec for you)
Distance difference = 9.111ft/sec*12.0 sec = 109.33 ft
Carlenghts = 109.33ft/12(ft/carlenght) = 9.11 carlenghts

So at the end of the 1/4 you would have ~9 cars on a stock or lightly modded F-bod. I you only ran up to 90mph (your approx. 1/8 mi. trap), then you would have 4.5 carlengths on him.

Anyways, good kill.
i think there's a bit wrong with your math. I HIGHLY doubt id put 4.5 more cars even on a stock f body in the back 1/8 of a 1/4 mile. Seeing as how 12.09 - 7.72 equals ~ 4.4 i'd have to be adding 1 carlenghter per second on top of my lead after the 1/8 mile mark. since acceleration isnt exactly linear, that would be nearly impossible.

also you multiplied by 3280 and a mile is 5280

you can also skip this part of the equation since 12 seconds and 12 feet are equal.

"Distance difference = 9.111ft/sec*12.0 sec = 109.33 ft
Carlenghts = 109.33ft/12(ft/carlenght) = 9.11 carlengths"


However since you multiplies by 3280 instead of 5280 it should read more like

distance difference = 14.7fps * 12 seconds = 176
176/12 ft carlength = 14.7
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Old May 22, 2005 | 08:01 PM
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good kills man, your evo's running as well as ever it seems. Do you have a cardomain or some site for pics? Always wanted to see your car man. congrats again.

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Old May 22, 2005 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PHTCBRA
Are you racing on Ice Dirt or snow, maybe oil? I know you've got a fast car, but wtf lighting them all up? I dont think John Shepard has these problems.

shep doesnt have these problems because he is on a prepped track with VHT and he's running slicks. I'm not.
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Old May 22, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by EvilDylan
Whats so funny? Do you know how to do math?

90 mph = 132 feet per second.

How long is a car? Id say on average about 10-12 feet

133/12 = 11

WOW so according to logic a 13 second car getting beat by a 12 second car would be losing by approximately 11 car lengths.

open mouth, insert foot there dal ***
You try awfully hard to look smart. Too bad it's all an act.

First of all your average car is about 15 feet. Second of all your equation is all wrong. How is a set speed of 90-mph going to tell you anything. I mean both cars are moving, aren't they? Or did you do the typical ricer flyby while this guy was sitting in a turn lane?

Your equation makes no sense. You're so called logic is fucked.

What speed did y'all roll from. 40? 50? If so, what's the end of 4th for you? 110? So in a 60 to 70 mph stint you pulled 10 cars.

He didn't happen to hit the breaks and stop at the red light you blew through did he.

You can open your *** and insert head now.

Keep up with the names. Doesn't bother me. You're "logic" tells me all that I need to know.

You're a ricer who tries to act smart but either was banged against the wall at an early age or smoked too much weed to put a proper equation together.

Have a nice day.
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Old May 22, 2005 | 11:52 PM
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4X4 sports cars are IMHO

7 car lengths on an SS after breaking all the tires & getting a bit sideways........... 10 lengths on a WS6 from a dig....."good races"......up next was a skittle, but I was on E.....I got the low wing.....I tried to un-Alteza my lights

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Old May 23, 2005 | 01:01 AM
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Yeah, I'll tell you what's wrong with his math, he used your dumbass 10-12ft "estimate" of a car length. If I remember correctly, my WS6 is about 16-17 feet long. Go measure your car, cause I'm sure that detail would skew the results some, eh?

Btw, I have a major in physics and I think your 'calculations' are hilarious .... The "what's wrong, don't you know how to do math" comment, followed by you doing it incorrectly, twice, is definitely a classic kick yourself in the *** kinda deal.

I'll give you a few more trys to get it correct; since it doesn't look like you're stumbling across the right answer anytime soon.


- Edit. I checked into it ... the Evo is just shy of 15 feet long. -
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Old May 23, 2005 | 11:05 AM
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It's possible for an Evo, even a stock or lightly modded one to light 'em all up. The first one I raced did that and I spanked his *** out the hole and did put bus lengths on him by the big end. If they put sticky **** on, forget it, they just jump. I've always heard that each tenth equals about 1 car length in the 1/4 and as many times as I've run, that appears to be the case. If you're looking in the mirror, what the **** is the difference between 10 cars and 9.11 cars? I sure couldn't tell the diff, could you?
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Old May 23, 2005 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by CharlieCobra03
It's possible for an Evo, even a stock or lightly modded one to light 'em all up. The first one I raced did that and I spanked his *** out the hole and did put bus lengths on him by the big end. If they put sticky **** on, forget it, they just jump. I've always heard that each tenth equals about 1 car length in the 1/4 and as many times as I've run, that appears to be the case. If you're looking in the mirror, what the **** is the difference between 10 cars and 9.11 cars? I sure couldn't tell the diff, could you?
Re-read the post... We're not talking about quarter-mile runs here.

7 Lengths on the SS from a 40mph roll to the top of 4th.
10 lengths on the WS6 from a dig to the top of third.

Honestly, I'm just loving the math, and don't really care about the race at all.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by xphantomws6x
Re-read the post... We're not talking about quarter-mile runs here.

7 Lengths on the SS from a 40mph roll to the top of 4th.
10 lengths on the WS6 from a dig to the top of third.

Honestly, I'm just loving the math, and don't really care about the race at all.

please

point out to me my flaws in math since you're a "physics major".

Also are you telling me that you knew this guy drove a perfect race and ran a 13 flat? Im sorry that you're tiny narrow minded view cant comprehend such a simple concept, i KNOW i had a good race which would equal roughly 12.0-12.2. I Wasnt around when helaunched his car so he may have spun his tires until i shut down, who knows. I'll tell you one thing, you sure the hell don't.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Dal1as
You try awfully hard to look smart. Too bad it's all an act.

First of all your average car is about 15 feet. Second of all your equation is all wrong. How is a set speed of 90-mph going to tell you anything. I mean both cars are moving, aren't they? Or did you do the typical ricer flyby while this guy was sitting in a turn lane?

Your equation makes no sense. You're so called logic is fucked.

What speed did y'all roll from. 40? 50? If so, what's the end of 4th for you? 110? So in a 60 to 70 mph stint you pulled 10 cars.

He didn't happen to hit the breaks and stop at the red light you blew through did he.

You can open your *** and insert head now.

Keep up with the names. Doesn't bother me. You're "logic" tells me all that I need to know.

You're a ricer who tries to act smart but either was banged against the wall at an early age or smoked too much weed to put a proper equation together.

Have a nice day.

Do yourself a favor, go back and RE-READ my post. I said 10 cars from a dig. What's so impossible about that? Maybe the guy couldnt drive for ****.

Also, do a bit of research top of 4th in an evo is closer to 120 mph.

Also, why dont YOU educate us all on how to formulate a proper equation as to how many car lenghts two cars with unknown acceleration would turn out at the end of a race?
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Old May 23, 2005 | 01:03 PM
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**** it

Last edited by EvilDylan; May 23, 2005 at 02:21 PM.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Diolar Magnum
good kills man, your evo's running as well as ever it seems. Do you have a cardomain or some site for pics? Always wanted to see your car man. congrats again.

Brad

yeah ive got some pics, no cardomain site though. I might have posted some pics but there are a few narrowminded douche nozzles that have sort of ruined it for me. If you want some pics feel free to PM me.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 01:22 PM
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Good kills man.

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Old May 23, 2005 | 01:50 PM
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Here ya go.

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Old May 23, 2005 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Dal1as
Here ya go.
it's pretty funny (and sad) how all you can do is call me a ricer and post pics of your side view mirror, while dodging the fact that you really have no substantial evidence that can prove me wrong. Like i asked before, please show me YOUR method of math that is so much better than mine that will enlighten us all as to the exact distance between the two cars. if you can't then i suggest you just save some face and stop posting.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by EvilDylan
it's pretty funny (and sad) how all you can do is call me a ricer and post pics of your side view mirror, while dodging the fact that you really have no substantial evidence that can prove me wrong. Like i asked before, please show me YOUR method of math that is so much better than mine that will enlighten us all as to the exact distance between the two cars. if you can't then i suggest you just save some face and stop posting.
It's not my rearview mirror but I figured the pic was appropriate. As for the math. Why? I think most people who have raced before know your claims are a joke. Not to mention your equations didn't make sense.

12 foot cars also?
3 cars difference because you got a slight jump?
7 cars while getting sideways and going up in smoke?

You exagerated. Admit it. I don't need to waste the time. Here is a quick rundown though.

Average car is 15 feet long.
1/8th mile is 660 feet. I figure you top out in 3rd a little beyond the 1/8th.
There are 44 car lenghts in the 1/8th mile.
So what you're telling me a car that is probably only a half or maybe even a full second slower in the 1/8th mile was 10 car lengths behind you. Sorry, but that is unbelievable. Unless you failed to mention the guy going up in smoke, breaking something, or letting off.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 02:21 PM
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I see nothing wrong with EvilDylan's 1st post. What if those cars had stock tires and their engines were stock? A little wheel spin can equal several car lengths especially against an evo which can launch pretty hard on the street. Don't assume that his opponents did not spin at all, knew how to drive very well, and kept racing after he left their asses. If someone is pulling me that is 1 second faster than me in the 1/4 mile I will probably shut down early as it's pointless to keep going once it's clear that the other person's car is quite a bit faster than mine, and especially on the street.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Dal1as
It's not my rearview mirror but I figured the pic was appropriate. As for the math. Why? I think most people who have raced before know your claims are a joke. Not to mention your equations didn't make sense.

12 foot cars also?
3 cars difference because you got a slight jump?
7 cars while getting sideways and going up in smoke?

You exagerated. Admit it. I don't need to waste the time. Here is a quick rundown though.

Average car is 15 feet long.
1/8th mile is 660 feet. I figure you top out in 3rd a little beyond the 1/8th.
There are 44 car lenghts in the 1/8th mile.
So what you're telling me a car that is probably only a half or maybe even a full second slower in the 1/8th mile was 10 car lengths behind you. Sorry, but that is unbelievable. Unless you failed to mention the guy going up in smoke, breaking something, or letting off.
jesus christ dude lay off the crack and actually READ my post, when the hell did i say i went up in smoke? I went sideways for a split second. I guarantee that it was still at the slowest 1.7 60 foot. i top out in third before the end of the 1/8 mile.
Keep in mind on the street and on the track i can consistently get faster than 1.8 60 foots. a rwd ls1 on street tires on the street is hard pressed to get a sub 2.0 60 foot. right out of the hole thats already a 2-3 tenths advantage.

like i said before, i wasnt around when the guy was launching. I was gone, off the line i had 2-3 cars instantly after that i really couldnt see if he was smoking the tires or what since it was pitch black out side aside from a few street lights here and there. Im also not focusing on my rear view, i only glanced to see where he was. I wasnt concentrating on whether he had a good launch or not, and i really didnt care.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jsniper
I see nothing wrong with EvilDylan's 1st post. What if those cars had stock tires and their engines were stock? A little wheel spin can equal several car lengths especially against an evo which can launch pretty hard on the street. Don't assume that his opponents did not spin at all, knew how to drive very well, and kept racing after he left their asses. If someone is pulling me that is 1 second faster than me in the 1/4 mile I will probably shut down early as it's pointless to keep going once it's clear that the other person's car is quite a bit faster than mine, and especially on the street.

that's exactly what im saying. In fact im pretty sure they were both stock. I didn't ask, and they didn't tell.

it's ridiculous that my story is so hard to believe, yet when someone here in a stock z28 smokes an evo by buslengths its accepted as the truth and as a fact form now on that evo's are easily buslenghted by LS1 cars.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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Case in point. I raced another Cobra with fresh meats on and lost by 3 cars. I raced the exact same Cobra a week later with fresh MT's on and beat him by four.
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