yea your right suspension only takes you so far , i dropped 8.5 tenths just by bolting up some suspension and tires. On a stock motord 5L

 

Yes, people with full suspension/mild bolt on 5.0's have been known to hit low 13's.

 

Out of curiosity Dan....what do you have to do to run those times? Do you dump the clutch at 6k?

 

i would assume he lets the RPMs swing, so he would hold 6k second to last yellow put it to the floor and dump the clutch.The inertia of the rotating assembly keeps the motor from bogging.

 

Well thats kinda what I do when I run N/A.. But I pull back on the clutch some to get a preload on the drivetrain so I don't just dump it and shock the drivetrain and break something.. But when I'm running the N20 I only rev it up to about 3.5-4Krpms and put a preload on the drivetrain by pulling back on the clutch a little, then letting it go once the 3rd yellow lights and slam the gas.. I launch at a lower RPM because that is where all the Peak torque is at on the nitrous.. By doing this I have been cutting low 1.5 60fts on worn out ET Streets..

 

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Originally Posted by dan03mach

your a jack ***
O Yeah BTW my car now runs low 11's, high 10's are coming next. And I still have a bone stock motor...

To me exhaust/CAI/NOS would not be a "bone stock motor".

 

Listen pal, first off I didn't say suspension AND tires, I said suspension. I was NOT adding tires to the equation in that statement b/c in my comparison example BOTH the Z06 and Mach have DR's. In comparing the difference between them tires was NOT part of the difference. Tires obviously make a very big difference on their own and played a big part in your improved times, probably moreso than the suspension changes you made. Secondly I was specifically refering to Mach1's and Mach's suspension for launches is pretty decent to start. Who knows what you had to start with. Heck you could have started with a totally messed up suspension. Your one example doesn't mean much to me and certainly doesn't disprove what I said. The point remains the same that, and its an absolute fact that modding the suspension only takes you so far which is mostly just the initial launch and than its about power weight and gearing. My arguments turned out to be completely correct under the assumption he was NA. No Mach1 with those mods (minus the N20) would run low 11's. All the suspension in the world would not bring a Mach1 with just those mods to low 11's. Point was made, and the correction was made that he actually did have N20. So move along assclown.

 

Yes, that was how this all started b/c he often types in a misleading way as if he runs those times all motor, than later on its kinda mentioned as an afterthought, oh yeah.....and n20.

Anyhow, now its clear he runs low 11's with full exhaust, cai, suspension, built drivetrain, DR's, lightening, skinnies, and a 125 shot. Nothing spectacular about that. Seems right to me.

 

With ya 100%

 

WTF is a MACK1 I have seen you call it a "Mack1" Three times now.

 

first off dan can drivel like a **** and the car is tuned and makes power were needed and the car has been lighted so if u want evidance check this picture out and that on the 17's

 

wow that thing must 60' like a ****!!

 

The Motor is bone stock.. It has never been touched, it has all the stock parts on it, stock cams, heads, block, etc.. So when I say the Motor is bone stock that is what I mean the motor is bone stock.. Since when does exhaust have anything to do with the motor, and Nitrous is a power adder that you add to a motor.. Now if I had after market cams, heads, short block, ect I would not say I had a bone stock motor, but since the motor has never been touched and it is in the same condition as when I bought it new from Ford I can say that I do have a bone stock Motor... All the things you list are just bolt ons and a power adder.. It has nothing to do with the motor not being bone stock..

 

It does low 1.5's on Worn out ET Streets, I should do some high 1.4's with some new ET Drags..

 

Nitrous is just a bolt on.....The motor is still stock. I guess if you put exhaust on, then the motor isnt stock anymore?

 

Man, N20 DOES NOT MAKE A BUILT MOTOR! IF he says stock motor and he has N20, its still stock. All N20 is is an alternative fuel. Hell, if i run 104 octane booster in my dads old van did I just install a motor mod? I think not...I think someone just has ET envy and is making a big stink about someone who set their car up right and can drive like a ****.

 

What??????

You have some strange and perverted idea of STOCK.

Show me ONE SINGLE Mach 1 that Ford SOLD that has nitrous as standard and produces over 400bhp.

Come on....

If the engine has been altered in anyway shape or form so that it produces more power it is no longer stock.

In simple terms to get more BHP you need a bigger bang.

This can be done by:
a) higher revs = more air = bigger bang
b) FI = more = bigger bang
c) NOS = more air (well O2) = bigger bang

If it's not a stock motor, then neither is bolting a Procharger to an LS1 as it's still external.

An exhaust alters how the engine performs too, so it is an engine mod. I mean no one changes an exhaust for aerodynamic reasons, they do it for power (and sound, but that's not the point here).

Basically, I have no problem with you claim of ET's. However they are not done on anything even close to a "bone stock engine".

An internally bone stock engine - yes.

If it was bone stock then it would only produce 305bhp SAE Net.

 

I consider a supercharged engine "stock engine" Like you said, it still has 100% of the parts it left the factory with in an unaltered state. the CAR is NOT stock, but the engine is. By the same token as i said before, I could consider octane booster from STP to be an engine mod if N20 is an engine mod...I dont think it works like that. "I am running 6 psi on the stock motor" I hear that a lot...etc. etc. etc. Never claimed his CAR was stock.

 

Point is some posts have been misleading IMO. You often make it a point to emphasize it's a stock motor, sometimes failing to mention the N20. Obviously N20 is a HUGE power adder and makes a huge difference. You can make more power with N20 than a H/C motor, so who cares if the motor's internally stock when you are FI!

So IMO, you should be saying on run low 11's with a 125 shot, whereas instead you like to say I run low 11's on stock motor. See what I mean. I'm not saying your wrong I just think its a little silly and misleading the way you present it sometimes.

 

He sandbags his mods without lying. Props to him. You simply ASSUMED that just because his motor was stock the method of induction was as well.