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Old 12-08-2005, 06:09 PM
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I raced him four times. Twice from a roll and twice from a stop. Older guy he was pretty cool and told me he needed to practice and it was brand new. Pulled him everytime. Just wanted to share since it was supercharged. I had been wanting to run one and i did.

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How bad did u beat him? How fast were you going? Shed some more details...Bolt on T/A beating up a S/C 05 GT. He should be somewhere at 400rwhp (ATLEAST) right? He would have gotten you good from a roll IMO.
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He may not have known his powerband, I did very shitty when i first started driving my 5.0.
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If I remember correctly those Saleens aren't running much boost in stock form. Though one thing is for sure, they carry a hefty price tag. There are 2 here locally at the dealership for 50+.

I raced a lime green n/a saleen and it wasn't even funny. I have yet to come across a S/C though.
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i think they BOOST like 4 PSI maybe 5 .. they are nothing but a expensive body kiT on a GT. And if this guy did not know his Power band i see NO reason why this guy beat him.. Nice Race BTW
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Congrat on your kills.

A New Saleen with a supercharger is no slouch,4 psi is to the new motors what 8 psi used to be for the old mod motors.
Boosted 05 Gt's with slicks have been running 11's through stock pipes,so i say the potential is there,good thing you smoked him before he got used to driving his new ride.
Even then you might still have whooped him.
Never know.

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Originally Posted by lsevenl
If I remember correctly those Saleens aren't running much boost in stock form. Though one thing is for sure, they carry a hefty price tag. There are 2 here locally at the dealership for 50+.

I raced a lime green n/a saleen and it wasn't even funny. I have yet to come across a S/C though.
Man i gotta tell ya,that is a BEAUTIFUL car in your sig.

Dave
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The short, less "elaborate"(errr....embelished) kill stories are less likely to be BS...good kill.
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I don't know. I'm not seeing how a basically stock WS6 is pulling on this car. But I guess anything is possible.

SPECIFICATIONS 2006 SALEEN S281 SC Coupe

GENERAL
Curb Weight, lb. est 3550
Weight Distribution, F/R 53/47
Fuel Capacity, gal. 15.7
Wheelbase, in. 107.1
Track, F/R 63.9/62.8
Width 74.0
Length 189.1
Height 56.0
Trunk Space, cubic ft. 12.3

ENGINE
Type 4.6L, 3V, SOHC V-8
Bore and Stroke 3.55 x 3.54 in.
Displacement 4.6 liters, 281 cu in.
Accessory Pulleys Saleen Underdrive Pulleys
Exhaust System Saleen Stainless, 2.5 in. Variable Exhaust
Horsepower 435 bhp @ 5800 RPM
Torque 425 lb-ft @ 4000 RPM
Fuel Premium Unleaded 91 Octane
Saleen Intercooled Supercharger Saleen Series VI Integrated TwinScrew Supercharger With Two-Stage Water-To-Air Intercooler System; Cast 356-T6 aluminum alloy constructions

DRIVETRAIN
Transmission, standard Saleen Quick Ratio 5-Speed Transmission
Transmission, optional 5-Speed Electronically Controlled Automatic
8.8 in. Differential 3:55:1 Ratio Standard, Manual Transmission
8.8 in. Differential 3:31:1 Ratio Standard, Automatic Transmission
Saleen MaxGrip Speed-Sensitive Limited Slip Optional
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i ran one a while back- i put 1.5 to 2 school bus lengths on him.

good kill and i completly believe it, i was very unimpressed by the performance of the saleen i ran, if it was an 03/04 cobra it would have been ALOT closer so i think those hp #'s are bs and the car is too heavy with maybe peaky power.
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My friend beat an 04 SC'ed saleen w/ his 01 WS6 headers, lid and catback By 2 car lenths to 120mph.. The dude was cool about the loss, just pissed w/ the dealer that sold him the car for 56,000. ha ha ha ha SUCKER!!!!!!!!!.
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Originally Posted by redsscamaroboy
Man i gotta tell ya,that is a BEAUTIFUL car in your sig.

Dave
Thank you unfortunately the FM5 are off and i'll just have to get some new pics with the draglites


But seriously, the hp figures may be there, but the guy in the green n/a saleen (that I raced) said he test drove the s/c version after buying his and there definitely wasn't enough power to justify the difference in price. He's going to do a KB instead
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Originally Posted by Big Jimbo
How bad did u beat him? How fast were you going? Shed some more details...Bolt on T/A beating up a S/C 05 GT. He should be somewhere at 400rwhp (ATLEAST) right? He would have gotten you good from a roll IMO.
I know if he was a better driver, he would of put up a better fight. I was only able to put a car on him before shutting down. We were racing up Carnelian if u know the Rancho Cucamonga area. He was in a Red Saleen Vert. I know it was supercharged cause if saw the two mesh grilles on his hood in my rear view. When i saw him, i went out of my way about 2 miles just to race him. He told me he just got it and was bearly getting used to it.
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Hell, i even missed a gear and was right there with him.
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Hell, i even missed a gear and was right there with him.
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I even told him he should of got a C6 for the money he spent on the saleen.
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Originally Posted by blazinws6kush
I know it was supercharged cause if saw the two mesh grilles on his hood in my rear view.
You do know that all Saleen Mustangs have those hoods, right? Even the non-supercharged ones.
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Originally Posted by blazinws6kush
I know it was supercharged cause if saw the two mesh grilles on his hood...
Yeah...that's solid proof.
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did you hear any blower whine at all like there was a banshee blowing threw a straw lol and did you notice if the badges said s281 or e281?
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It wouldn't suprise me at all if the guy really beat one.

You can talk about HP/LB until you're blue in the face but MM&FF got 12.7's-high 12's @ 111-113 out of their '05 SC Saleen test mule. No differences that I know of between the '05 and '06.

There are plenty of stock LS1's in the high 12's minus 1-2mph of the Saleen. And plenty of mild LS1's running the same or better as the Saleen ET and MPH.

Take my car for example Just about as stock as you can get and the only difference between my and the Saleen #'s is a couple of mph less on my end. And we ALL known that...say it with me..."Anything can happen on the street".



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