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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Sparetire
^^Cop out post.

You do start more **** than anyone else on the SRK boards. Notice how nobody else really has problem with everything on here. You are the guy who starts these things up, meaning you are the troll.

And calling Diambo or Xakep ricers is like calling a smart domestic guy a redneck. Its just plain stupid and stereotyping on the extreme. And you know it and so does the whole board.
Easy enough for you to just say its a "cop out". What did I say that was a "cop out at all??

1. I said my car was stock, therefore I don't need timeslips to prove anything.

2. Those clowns like to say I'm wrong, but thats all they can say. They can never actually prove anything in regards to how I'm incorrect about something.

3. Diambo and Xakep are ricers for obvious reasons. They are trolling the LS1 forums looking to brag about their "superior" and "super fast" imports. One thing they don't realize is that nobody gives a ****.

You're not some kind of mod, so what you have to say really doesn't matter at all. Funny you think you have the authority to speak for everyone on this board as well. 2.73 said you were a troll, and the way you support these import fanboys, I'm starting to believe him.
Old Mar 29, 2006 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Wesmanw02
This is what your car can do. Jack **** against an LS1. Case closed.

LS1 vs. STi vs. SRT-4 (Nitrous)



Sure, whatever you say dawg. You just keep thinking what you want, and it would be great if you came out to see my "bitch ***", I'd punch you in the teeth for being such a moron

And like I said, the STi isn't anything special from a roll. Its no faster than any other 230WHP 3200lb car. Meaning it runs with stock SRT-4's

You are the biggest ******* benchracer I have ever seen, posting a video you found by searching on streetfire of an LS1 beating an STI.
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Haha, the funny thing Wesman02, is your own guys, the ones who you say don't want to hear about us dumbass ricers, are the ones saying they respect imports and are telling you that you are an idiot. Doesn't that click in your tiny *** brain?
Old Mar 29, 2006 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Wesmanw02
Easy enough for you to just say its a "cop out". What did I say that was a "cop out at all??

1. I said my car was stock, therefore I don't need timeslips to prove anything.

2. Those clowns like to say I'm wrong, but thats all they can say. They can never actually prove anything in regards to how I'm incorrect about something.

3. Diambo and Xakep are ricers for obvious reasons. They are trolling the LS1 forums looking to brag about their "superior" and "super fast" imports. One thing they don't realize is that nobody gives a ****.

You're not some kind of mod, so what you have to say really doesn't matter at all. Funny you think you have the authority to speak for everyone on this board as well. 2.73 said you were a troll, and the way you support these import fanboys, I'm starting to believe him.
1) It took how many requests even to get that info about the car you suposedly own? Frankly I doubt you own the car, and your refusal to post pics or anything at all bout your ride reafirms this. The fact that you talk so much **** also reafirms this. In my expirience, the guys who talk the talk like you do (in terms of both imports and domestics) are generally the ones driving slow cars or no cars. Much the same way the cocky Evo guys are usually the slow ones and the respectful ones are much faster. I dont doubt you will post pics of an LS1 in the near future. But I suspect it wont be yours.

And secondly: "I said my car was stock, therefore I don't need timeslips to prove anything." This is a great example of cop out. Sorry, but time slips require skill. I dont care if you have a Procharged 408, if you cant drive you cant drive and your ETs will suck. You need a slip to prove that you can back all your trash talking. And you dont and you cant.


2)You have been proven wrong on several things several times in these boards. More torque at idle than at peak. Evo IXs dynoing the same as VIIIs. Etc.

3)I dont care what you have going with other people. Frankly few people besides you have any problems with the two mentioned. They provide information and perspective that you happen to disagree with.

WTF did 2.73 call me a troll? We PMed back and forth and agreed on some points in fact. The difference between 2.73 and you is that 2.73 is capable of disagreeing without going into an immature rage. He can actually support his arguments. He has rational conversations with people.
You call everyone who disagrees with you a troll. And you refuse to beleive that they are knowledgeable LS1 fans. And since your the one constantly telling people to get of the site, you should consider that your not a mod either.

What I say obviously matters to you since you get in such an uproar about it. If you did not care we would not be here. Its called a forum, people exchange ideas, opinions and info, its fun. So we do take what others say into account. Otherwise there is no conversation.
Old Mar 29, 2006 | 11:42 PM
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Facts over rhetoric:
The nice idle torque LS1 versus Peak torque EJ25:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...4&page=3&pp=20
The VIII versus IX power levels:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...0&page=4&pp=20

Just in the most recent threads.
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Originally Posted by LSINA7
You are the biggest ******* benchracer I have ever seen, posting a video you found by searching on streetfire of an LS1 beating an STI.
Right. Because benchracing is proving with actual footage that one car is faster than another. I swear you have got to be the biggest retard on this site

Haha, the funny thing Wesman02, is your own guys, the ones who you say don't want to hear about us dumbass ricers, are the ones saying they respect imports and are telling you that you are an idiot. Doesn't that click in your tiny *** brain?
Nobody should have any respect for dumbass ricers such as yourself. You are here to troll, plain and simple. The only person thats an "idiot" here is you, get a clue.


Originally Posted by Sparetire
1) It took how many requests even to get that info about the car you suposedly own? Frankly I doubt you own the car, and your refusal to post pics or anything at all bout your ride reafirms this. The fact that you talk so much **** also reafirms this. In my expirience, the guys who talk the talk like you do (in terms of both imports and domestics) are generally the ones driving slow cars or no cars. Much the same way the cocky Evo guys are usually the slow ones and the respectful ones are much faster. I dont doubt you will post pics of an LS1 in the near future. But I suspect it wont be yours.
Gues how much I care what you think. If you guessed NOT AT ALL, then you'd be correct. it doesn't matter what you think of me or my car. You pull some theory out of your *** that because I don't have a picture posted of my car, I don't own it. Well, the fact of the matter is I'm in college, my car is at home, and I don't happen to have a pictures off hand. Get a ******* clue.

And secondly: "I said my car was stock, therefore I don't need timeslips to prove anything." This is a great example of cop out. Sorry, but time slips require skill. I dont care if you have a Procharged 408, if you cant drive you cant drive and your ETs will suck. You need a slip to prove that you can back all your trash talking. And you dont and you cant.
Cop out?? No, not at all. Why should I take my car to the track and run stock times, when I known damn well that I'm perfectly capable of driving well?? To prove it to you?? How about no.

2)You have been proven wrong on several things several times in these boards. More torque at idle than at peak. Evo IXs dynoing the same as VIIIs. Etc.
Hate to break it to you there Mr. Serious, but I was exaggerating for the purpose of getting my point accross. Yet tools such as yourself start analyzing the data down to a tenth of a FT/LB of torque in order to "prove me wrong". I never meant it to turn into something that controversial

3)I dont care what you have going with other people. Frankly few people besides you have any problems with the two mentioned. They provide information and perspective that you happen to disagree with.
Maybe you should go check the post history. XakEp is a known problem starter, coming on here bragging about his import having 600+ HP and beating every Domestic ever made. The guy is a joke.

WTF did 2.73 call me a troll? We PMed back and forth and agreed on some points in fact. The difference between 2.73 and you is that 2.73 is capable of disagreeing without going into an immature rage. He can actually support his arguments. He has rational conversations with people.
You call everyone who disagrees with you a troll. And you refuse to beleive that they are knowledgeable LS1 fans. And since your the one constantly telling people to get of the site, you should consider that your not a mod either.
Yes, 2.73 did in fact call you a troll. And he spoke the truth when he said that too, as your posts have been revealing. I support my arguements by posting up specs, facts, and even videos. Yet thats obviously not enough for you, learn to read.

What I say obviously matters to you since you get in such an uproar about it. If you did not care we would not be here. Its called a forum, people exchange ideas, opinions and info, its fun. So we do take what others say into account. Otherwise there is no conversation.
Yes, I know that. Intelligent conversation is made when people can have a discussion about a topic, race, issue, ect. without some stupid troll coming in and saying "I beat all you DO-mestics wit my 600HP DSM biatch!!". Then the discussion turns to ****, just as this one has. Hence the reason I can't stand stupid import trolls like Diambo, XakEp, and LSINA7.
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Originally Posted by Wesmanw02
I don't think I've ever seen a more idiotic post in my life. I already told you what I drive, a stock LS1 M6 T/A. I don't need to post any timeslips, because its stock you moron.

What can't I back up that I've said?? More like you can't prove that any of the things I've said are incorrect. If you are on this site because you "love LS1s", they why are you driving a riced out DSM?? Thats right, because you are a ricer here for no other purpose than to troll. If you were here to actually contribute anything, you would have more than 5 posts in the other forums besides "street racing and kills".

You are willing to RUN ME?? OHH **** dawg, I'm scared now. Looks like the Fast and the Furious have come to town

Seriously, just shut the **** up or get out of here, your bullshit is really getting old
******* *****!

I knew it all along. It's always the guys with stock (aka slow) cars that talk ****. Pull your head out of your ***. BTW, you need to post a picture of your car and write your S/N on a card and show it in the picture to prove that you actually own one. Hey, I can say I also own an Enzo.

In case you didn't notice, I joined this board 2 yrs BEFORE you did. I don't post alot other than in this forum when I have to hear BS from the likes of you. If I was in deed a troll (like you suggest) I would have been banned a long time ago. You call us ricers but you cannot even legitimize/substantiate your claims. Verbal diarrhoea as usual. I don't have to prove you are an idiot. You are already doing a better job at it. We are not here to brag. YOU claim that 4-bangers can not make any real power, Quinn and I just called you out on your BS.
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Yep, I am just here to troll and buy parts for my car.
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"I beat all you DO-mestics wit my 600HP DSM biatch!!". Then the discussion turns to ****, just as this one has. Hence the reason I can't stand stupid import trolls like Diambo, XakEp, and LSINA7.
So I'm a ricer because I both disagree with you and happen to have an import for one of my cars and its faster than a number of cars on this site? Not because of any exterior modifications to the vehicle?

Wow, nice logic there pal.
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Originally Posted by Wesmanw02
Sounds to me like you raced a V6 Firebird. And LS1 would have owned you like a little ricer, and an LT1 would still have held you off without a problem.

STi's don't have jack from a roll, especially considering they only put down 230WHP. Obviously the car you raced wasn't a V8, or the guy didn't feel like wasting his gas on you
The first name calling/insulting post in this thread. And MaSTi was still classy enough to let it go and be polite to you in his post immediately after. Despite that fact that you made that statement not knowing his mods or power levels. You assumed he was stock, called him a ricer, etc. Before this comment and for some time after it you had a really informative conversation between everyone in the thread. Eventually someone called your comment above what it is: BS. And so the snowball began.

You try to mis-direct these things all you want, its does not fool anybody. You start **** with people you disagree with. You then call them ricers, trolls, etc. You do this in multiple threads, spreading this BS out. Nobody has these overwhelming rage problems on the SRK board but you. Nobody. Notice how the people who held your POV were able to speak rationally without being rude and condecending and the thread was fine. No BS, just logic. No probems. Go figure, consdiering the vast majority of US have been here longer than you.

Frankly when these problems all seem to develop when you start posting in here, and were not nearly this prevalent before you started posting, you get a picture of who starting trouble.

Your Join Date:
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MaSTi:4-12-05
MilaTK:OCT '03
Me:7-20-04
Xakep:11-18-05
LSINA7:12-26-05
Diambo4life: 12-26-04
Stanger88: 12-21-04
Brad8266: 08-06-05
98Z28MASS: 7-19-04
Quick Z06: 09-04-05
Kyle91Z28: 2-19-05
Santiago: 9-16-04

Three things should jump out at you from this list:
1)Everyone you accuse of "coming on here to start trouble" has been here longer than you.
2)All this trouble started when you came on here. Beyond a thread bewteen me and Heatmaker I can't think of anything like this on here pre-you.
3)In this list you have:
6 LSX powered vehicles (Vettes, Fbodies, and a hybrid)
A Vintage Duster
Someone with a 302 just waiting to put it in something
Three DSMs
A Sti
A Evo
A fast 5.0
So you have 9 V8 guys, almost all of whom are faster than you, race more than you and know more than you.
You have 5 turbo 4 owners who know more about the cars in question than you and disagree with you.


4) Most importantly-Every single one of these people disagrees with you in this thread.

Looking at it from a outsiders' POV, who would you think correct? Seriously. If you came upon a debate and 14 out of 15 people disagreed with number 15 who was the most recent addition to the board, who may or may not own the car he claims to have, who is in every single argument thread, and who has no recourse but to refer to everyone as a ricer troll, who would you look to for a opinion? I dont think it will be the guy who mis-states driveline losses, who BSs about torque levels, who has no time slip to back his trash talking, who "knows he can drive fine", who thinks autos are inferior, who hates anything other than his choices in cars, who talks trash to people he has no chance of beating and who have put more sweat into going fast than he ever will.
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Originally Posted by Sparetire
The first name calling/insulting post in this thread. And MaSTi was still classy enough to let it go and be polite to you in his post immediately after. Despite that fact that you made that statement not knowing his mods or power levels. You assumed he was stock, called him a ricer, etc. Before this comment and for some time after it you had a really informative conversation between everyone in the thread. Eventually someone called your comment above what it is: BS. And so the snowball began.

You try to mis-direct these things all you want, its does not fool anybody. You start **** with people you disagree with. You then call them ricers, trolls, etc. You do this in multiple threads, spreading this BS out. Nobody has these overwhelming rage problems on the SRK board but you. Nobody. Notice how the people who held your POV were able to speak rationally without being rude and condecending and the thread was fine. No BS, just logic. No probems. Go figure, consdiering the vast majority of US have been here longer than you.

Frankly when these problems all seem to develop when you start posting in here, and were not nearly this prevalent before you started posting, you get a picture of who starting trouble.

Your Join Date:
2-14-06

MaSTi:4-12-05
MilaTK:OCT '03
Me:7-20-04
Xakep:11-18-05
LSINA7:12-26-05
Diambo4life: 12-26-04
Stanger88: 12-21-04
Brad8266: 08-06-05
98Z28MASS: 7-19-04
Quick Z06: 09-04-05
Kyle91Z28: 2-19-05
Santiago: 9-16-04

Three things should jump out at you from this list:
1)Everyone you accuse of "coming on here to start trouble" has been here longer than you.
2)All this trouble started when you came on here. Beyond a thread bewteen me and Heatmaker I can't think of anything like this on here pre-you.
3)In this list you have:
6 LSX powered vehicles (Vettes, Fbodies, and a hybrid)
A Vintage Duster
Someone with a 302 just waiting to put it in something
Three DSMs
A Sti
A Evo
A fast 5.0
So you have 9 V8 guys, almost all of whom are faster than you, race more than you and know more than you.
You have 5 turbo 4 owners who know more about the cars in question than you and disagree with you.


4) Most importantly-Every single one of these people disagrees with you in this thread.

Looking at it from a outsiders' POV, who would you think correct? Seriously. If you came upon a debate and 14 out of 15 people disagreed with number 15 who was the most recent addition to the board, who may or may not own the car he claims to have, who is in every single argument thread, and who has no recourse but to refer to everyone as a ricer troll, who would you look to for a opinion? I dont think it will be the guy who mis-states driveline losses, who BSs about torque levels, who has no time slip to back his trash talking, who "knows he can drive fine", who thinks autos are inferior, who hates anything other than his choices in cars, who talks trash to people he has no chance of beating and who have put more sweat into going fast than he ever will.
I'm guessing you wasted at least a 1/2 hour making that stupid and completely pointless post. What do you think, you are some kind of mod who an tell people what to do?? I called MaSTI out because he was obviously trying to start troulbe by posting kill story of his car beating up on a stock LS1. Wow, like anyone really gives a ****. This isn't the STi forums. Thats my opinion on the matter, if you don't like it, then too bad.

Everyone disagrees with me?? Oh really?? I didn't know you could speak for every member of this board yoursef. Wait, thats right, you can't, and the only reason you made that whole post was to back up the stupid ricers who can't post anything legit themselves.

I also find it hilarious how you think you know everything about me just based on my opinion of things. Heres a suggestion, shut the **** up. I respected your opinion in the past, you've had some good posts, but now you've just gotten carried away. You don't know me, so stop pretending that you do. I honestly don't even give a **** about what you have to say anymore. 2.73 was right, you're just a troll who supports the stupid ricers on this site since they can't stick up for themselves.

So I'm a ricer because I both disagree with you and happen to have an import for one of my cars and its faster than a number of cars on this site? Not because of any exterior modifications to the vehicle?

Wow, nice logic there pal.
You're a ricer because you come on the LS1 forums bragging about your supposed 600+ HP piece if **** DSM that you claim will beat everyone. Newsflash: Nobody gives a **** about your piece if **** car.

******* *****!

I knew it all along. It's always the guys with stock (aka slow) cars that talk ****. Pull your head out of your ***. BTW, you need to post a picture of your car and write your S/N on a card and show it in the picture to prove that you actually own one. Hey, I can say I also own an Enzo.

In case you didn't notice, I joined this board 2 yrs BEFORE you did. I don't post alot other than in this forum when I have to hear BS from the likes of you. If I was in deed a troll (like you suggest) I would have been banned a long time ago. You call us ricers but you cannot even legitimize/substantiate your claims. Verbal diarrhoea as usual. I don't have to prove you are an idiot. You are already doing a better job at it. We are not here to brag. YOU claim that 4-bangers can not make any real power, Quinn and I just called you out on your BS.
And the most retarded post of the year award goes to....DIABMO, for his completely random and meaningless rant about his stupid riced out 4 banger Eclipse. They have DSM forums for a reason, why troll around here bragging about something nobody gives a **** about??

Its great how you call me a "******* *****" too, as if your post actually means anything. I'd be laughing me *** off if I ever saw you at a light, in your tricked out 15 year old POS DSM with the bumping rap music, all slouched down in your seat with your sideways visor. I wouldn't even waste my gas racing you, because it doesn't matter how fast your car is when you're that retarded
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You're a ricer because you come on the LS1 forums bragging about your supposed 600+ HP piece if **** DSM that you claim will beat everyone. Newsflash: Nobody gives a **** about your piece if **** car.
I didnt say it would beat everyone - I said it would beat YOU.

Newsflash - you're an idiot.
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These boards speak for themselfs Wesman02. And they generally disagree with you. If you can't ackowledge that, thats fine, but its still true. Stereotyping and insulting people doesnt change it. Your ignorant opinion doesnt change it. The fact you try to speak for the boards doesnt change it.

You start this crap. You dont know what your talking about. And the fact that all you can say in your last few posts to me is that you dont care about that and insult me and just about everyone else just goes to show that you dont have an answer to what I and others have posted.

Untill you stop starting crap and spouting crap you cant back, this fact will not change.
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Lets just quit posting, and with noone to call a ricer, what will Wesman02 do next?
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Originally Posted by Sparetire
These boards speak for themselfs Wesman02. And they generally disagree with you. If you can't ackowledge that, thats fine, but its still true. Stereotyping and insulting people doesnt change it. Your ignorant opinion doesnt change it. The fact you try to speak for the boards doesnt change it.

You start this crap. You dont know what your talking about. And the fact that all you can say in your last few posts to me is that you dont care about that and insult me and just about everyone else just goes to show that you dont have an answer to what I and others have posted.

Untill you stop starting crap and spouting crap you cant back, this fact will not change.

Haha, I love that new sig!
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Originally Posted by Sparetire
These boards speak for themselfs Wesman02. And they generally disagree with you. If you can't ackowledge that, thats fine, but its still true. Stereotyping and insulting people doesnt change it. Your ignorant opinion doesnt change it. The fact you try to speak for the boards doesnt change it.

You start this crap. You dont know what your talking about. And the fact that all you can say in your last few posts to me is that you dont care about that and insult me and just about everyone else just goes to show that you dont have an answer to what I and others have posted.

Untill you stop starting crap and spouting crap you cant back, this fact will not change.
Wait... you mean there's more threads like this? This guy is useless.
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Wait... you mean there's more threads like this? This guy is useless.
Useless?? Haha ok then riceboy.

Look at this, I found a nice picture of you:



We'll have to get one with your piece of **** Subaru in the background
Old Apr 16, 2006 | 12:28 PM
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Uh, Velocity drove a Trans Am until recently. How the hell is he a riceboy? To say nothing of the fact that he's been on this site since 04 and has a ton more posts than you.

Are you TRYING to get banned again or something?
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Are you TRYING to get banned again or something?
Yes he is...and he's going to succeed.




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