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Old 07-24-2006, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Blown2kGTP
Will82- you know a guy named steve in jacksonville with a Grand Prix, his handle on here and everywhere is (onesloGTP)?
nope. unfortunately I have little time to get involved in the car scene or any clubs and make new friends (work, grad school). hopefully next year I'll have a lot more time (and mod money )
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thats pretty funny - one of my friends had a sonic blue 04 mach 1, other had a black 01 WS6 (both were manual). Mach pulled the WS6 from lower speed, but the WS6 ended up catching (and passing) at higher speeds. Props to the Mach1 for being pretty damn quick on 4.6 liters and 281 ci


*edit - btw, both of their cars were bone stock.....from air filters to tires....*

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Old 07-24-2006, 06:05 PM
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You'd be surprised how much 4.10's and drag radials will help a car go down the 1/4.
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Old 07-24-2006, 06:07 PM
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stock for stock and mod for mod LS1's are faster cars, no suprise here.
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Old 07-24-2006, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by kyle91z28
You'd be surprised how much 4.10's and drag radials will help a car go down the 1/4.
i found out against a 3.42 M6 LS1 that its a big difference . i can only imagine what 4.10's would do
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Old 07-24-2006, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BLAKE 01 WS6
you can't just tell a mach owner that....you have to prove it to them
I agree that mod for mod the LS1 is the stronger car. I also believe that stock for stock a 5 speed mach and a LS1 car is a drivers race.
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Old 07-25-2006, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by grey03mach1
I agree that mod for mod the LS1 is the stronger car. I also believe that stock for stock a 5 speed mach and a LS1 car is a drivers race.
I disagree, it may be close but the LS1 will be faster. But then again this is coming from a guy who personally watched his buddies BONE STOCK 02Z28 auto run CONSISTANT 12.80-12.90's@107-108 one night at HRP.
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Old 07-25-2006, 08:37 PM
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my 04 mach 1 went 13,30 @106 with just a off road x pipe , shifter and drs .im going back on friday to see if the 4,10s and filter do
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Originally Posted by Sprayed1998
I disagree, it may be close but the LS1 will be faster. But then again this is coming from a guy who personally watched his buddies BONE STOCK 02Z28 auto run CONSISTANT 12.80-12.90's@107-108 one night at HRP.
For your viewing pleasureLS1 vs Mach #1
LS1 vs Mach #2
LS1 vs Mach #3

Your right, the LS1 is definitely faster....
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Originally Posted by grey03mach1
For your viewing pleasureLS1 vs Mach #1
LS1 vs Mach #2
LS1 vs Mach #3

Your right, the LS1 is definitely faster....
That's all smoke and mirrors!!!
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Originally Posted by noride
my 04 mach 1 went 13,30 @106 with just a off road x pipe , shifter and drs .im going back on friday to see if the 4,10s and filter do
My 2001 TA WS6 with K&N filter and clogged driver side cat (threw and SES) and on street tires did a 13.2 @ 104.

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Originally Posted by grey03mach1
For your viewing pleasureLS1 vs Mach #1
LS1 vs Mach #2
LS1 vs Mach #3

Your right, the LS1 is definitely faster....
That 3rd race was good but it sounded like the Z bounced the rev limiter once or twice. Also, what was the roll from and too since I wonder if that Z was about to walk the Mach 1.

BTW - Drivers race stock v stock with Mach 1 but still...
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Old 07-25-2006, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ActionJack
My 2001 TA WS6 with K&N filter and clogged driver side cat (threw and SES) and on street tires did a 13.2 @ 104.

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That 3rd race was good but it sounded like the Z bounced the rev limiter once or twice. Also, what was the roll from and too since I wonder if that Z was about to walk the Mach 1.

BTW - Drivers race stock v stock with Mach 1 but still...
The Z did hit the limiter in the 3rd race but all races were to 125 mph, that is when the 4.10's run out. The car is my boy Lee's that ran 13.2 stock and now runs 12.5's with gears,exhaust,tune and DR's.

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Old 07-25-2006, 11:13 PM
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those LS1's were auto cars. had they been stalled the vid would have been ALOT different. IMO if it had been 6-speed vs 5-speed the LS1's would have pulled pretty well, same exact cars, just 6-speeds. But nice vids, good clean runs. A 6-speed with the enough to walkmods the maroon car had is a 350rwhp car, easily a bolt on mach from a rolling start. But this is just my opinion.
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Nice runs, grey03! True, a 6 speed would have given you a better run...

I can't wait for the cool weather to hit Houston so we can all meet up at the track. There should be a "cammed Mach vs cammed LS1" showdown.
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Old 07-26-2006, 03:33 AM
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wow mach 1 mustangs must be alot faster in other states than pa, every stock mach 1 i seen at the track ran 13.8-14.4
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Old 07-26-2006, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Jester
Nice runs, grey03! True, a 6 speed would have given you a better run...

I can't wait for the cool weather to hit Houston so we can all meet up at the track. There should be a "cammed Mach vs cammed LS1" showdown.

That wouldnt be fair to the LS1 guys, they only have 1 cam while the Mach has 4 cams, lol.
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Old 07-26-2006, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by RED04Z06
That wouldnt be fair to the LS1 guys, they only have 1 cam while the Mach has 4 cams, lol.
Excuses, excuses.......
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Old 07-26-2006, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 02blkws6vert
wow mach 1 mustangs must be alot faster in other states than pa, every stock mach 1 i seen at the track ran 13.8-14.4
I've seen plenty of stock Mach's go 13.2 - 13.4 @ Mason Dixon Dragway,
which is just over the PA/MD border.

Where did you see all these Mach's run?

Pittsburgh Raceway Park?
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Im no expert but a friend of mine has a bone stock manual mach1 and is also in a mach1 clug here in hawa...

4 of them met up at the drag strip..Two bone stock and the other two with mods Only exhaust and CAI.....

My 2.73 geared auto that dynoed 299 rwhp and 309 rwht bone stock put an *** whooping on the mach ones...

A solid 4 tenths faster and 3 mph higher trapping than the stock ones and a solid 2 tenths and two mph higher trapping than the slightly modded ones...

They all admitted that even the stock auto c5 was outta there league and that they were gonna go frustrate some F body's ( wich stock for stock is only 1-2 tenths faster in the quarter mile based on the numbers from people in my F body club here in hawaii....

Decently fast..Some what rare and nice looking car.....My favorite mustang that proves ford still has some ***** and dosent need FI to be competitve
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Before any one calls BS...My track here in hawaii is always in 75 degree or HOTTER TROPICAL WEATHER and the track goes slightly uphill....

The record for a bone stock gen 2 Viper here is 12.6
The record for a bone stock 02 Z06 here is 12.8
The record for a 03 Cobra here is 13.2

So the bone stock mach1 pulling 13.9 here is very respectable....And my 13.5 is one of the quickest bone stock C5 times...
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