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Old 10-21-2006, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by unit213
You guys can keep babbling about the stupid Ford vs. Chevy thing. I'm still
waiting on a time slip.

Hey i don't have your time slip bud but how about you bring that junk stang that is on your profile to New York or ill come out to meet you at this location you call earth where ever the hell that is and spank your mustang and you can bring it back to the junk yard where it belongs. Give me a location ill bring the video camera and post it all over LS1 tech =). I think that is more than fair so you tell me when you want to do this.

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Originally Posted by SMahar28
Hey i don't have your time slip bud but how about you bring that junk stang that is on your profile to New York or ill come out to meet you at this location you call earth where ever the hell that is and spank your mustang and you can bring it back to the junk yard where it belongs. Give me a location ill bring the video camera and post it all over LS1 tech =). I think that is more than fair so you tell me when you want to do this.

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lol...hope you are pushing over 700 to the wheels.
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Originally Posted by ponygt65
You ma'am, are truely pathetic. Look at the bolded above.....you hypocrite. You obviously dont' know SHIAT about mustangs. FIrst you say you know the difference, and yet you ONLY refer to 2v's and terminators. Have you never heard of a mach 1? You have obviously never seen a mach 1 or 99/01 cobra run, CAUSE THEY RUN LOW TO MID 13S.........LS TERRITORY. You sir are a complete MORON and need to expand your little horizon that people with common sense call A BRAIN.

Once you actually know about 4V 4.6s (N/A or otherwise), then you can have an opinion. UNTIL then, I will give it to you.\


UNIT - Why are you still expecting a slip? You know it ain't coming.

Oh and BTW MR. KEVIN.......THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A 4V GT.
I am aware that there is no 4v GT. I didnt realize that I had to specify the difference for you. Seeing what we are discussing, I thought you would be intelligent enough to figure it out. I dont need u to tell me about them. 2 of my friends have 4v NON s/c mustangs. Beat them both with a stock LS1. I never said they were slow. Just not as fast as an LS1 from the factory. CHILL!
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Old 10-21-2006, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by kevinb1998
2 of my friends have 4v NON s/c mustangs. Beat them both with a stock LS1. I never said they were slow. Just not as fast as an LS1 from the factory. CHILL!
What year 4v Mustang's were they? If it is 96-98, I can see that you beat them stock vs. stock. But if it is '99/01/03/04 N/A you shouldn't have beat them too bad, stock vs. stock as it would be a drivers race (the better driver is the winner).

Let me set this straight. 4v '99 & 01 Cobras and '03/04 Mach 1's are LS1 territory. Just because you beat two of your friends who own 4v's doesn't mean anything. There are factory freaks and factory duds. There are freak drivers and there are dud drivers. Those factors all play in on who will win stock vs. stock when it comes to an LS1 and a 4v Mustang. The S/C '03/04 Cobras on the other hand are not in LS1 territory stock vs. stock.

A breakdown of LS1 f-bodies and 99+ New Edge Mustangs...

'03/04 4v S/C modular Cobra, stock: high 12's-low 13's (depends on driver)
'98-02 2v pushrod f-body, stock: low 13's-high 13's (depends on driver, tranny and stock gearing)
'03/04 4v modular Mach 1, stock: low-high 13's (depends on driver & tranny)
'99 & '01 4v modular Cobra, stock: mid-high 13's (depends on driver)
'99-04 2v modular GT, stock: low-high 14's (depends on driver & tranny)

There it is you ******* Mustang haters. It is not that hard to know about other cars, even if you don't like them. I for one, am fasinated by Mustangs and plan to own one someday. I would like to get my hands on a Mach 1 or a possible Boss that may come out in the near future. But to each his own.
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Originally Posted by 00 SLVR Z
What year 4v Mustang's were they? If it is 96-98, I can see that you beat them stock vs. stock. But if it is '99/01/03/04 N/A you shouldn't have beat them too bad, stock vs. stock as it would be a drivers race (the better driver is the winner).

Let me set this straight. 4v '99 & 01 Cobras and '03/04 Mach 1's are LS1 territory. Just because you beat two of your friends who own 4v's doesn't mean anything. There are factory freaks and factory duds. There are freak drivers and there are dud drivers. Those factors all play in on who will win stock vs. stock when it comes to an LS1 and a 4v Mustang. The S/C '03/04 Cobras on the other hand are not in LS1 territory stock vs. stock.

A breakdown of LS1 f-bodies and 99+ New Edge Mustangs...

'03/04 4v S/C modular Cobra, stock: high 12's-low 13's (depends on driver)
'98-02 2v pushrod f-body, stock: low 13's-high 13's (depends on driver, tranny and stock gearing)
'03/04 4v modular Mach 1, stock: low-high 13's (depends on driver & tranny)
'99 & '01 4v modular Cobra, stock: mid-high 13's (depends on driver)
'99-04 2v modular GT, stock: low-high 14's (depends on driver & tranny)

There it is you ******* Mustang haters. It is not that hard to know about other cars, even if you don't like them. I for one, am fasinated by Mustangs and plan to own one someday. I would like to get my hands on a Mach 1 or a possible Boss that may come out in the near future. But to each his own.
Thank you very much. I love it that he got called out and then tried to say 'he shouldn't have to clarify'....of course he would say that...but seems how he MIS WORDED HALF of his post that I quoted, I find it very hard to believe that he knows what he is talking about.

I also am SICK AND TIRED of people thinking one, two, three or even four races are the end all to performance comparison. I guess those friends of his are the best mustang driver's ever.
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Originally Posted by Stanger88
I am a horridly indecisive person and the look of the 99+ GT lowered (not slammed) with Cobra R rims in black appeals to me. I keep seeing that the performance differences in reviews like this:

Overall, the 2000 Mustang GT is a lot of car for the money, as a fully loaded, 5-speed GT, with leather, stickers for only $23,900. The Mustang is comfortable, easy to drive, and with a kick *** stereo, gobs of power, and unmatched civility, it's a "10" on the fun scale. Although the Chevy and Pontiac give you 305 HP with their base V8, the acceleration diffeence is actually pretty small, especially in a rolling start. The GM cars are all around less refined, and it'll cost you a thousand more for the Camaro Z28, and a few thousand more in the Firebird Formula or Trans Am. So the Mustang is the value for the money winner in this comparison.

Someone please post up some LS1 kills (fair races) on 99+ GT's to keep me on track. LS1 FTW!!!

Another thing that has scared me a bit on the LS1 is how I annhialated a LS1 TA the other week from a 20mph roll in 2nd (he gunned it while 1.5-2 cars ahead and I still put 1 car on him by 60 (he was coming up fast, but WTF!? I dynoed 244whp )

Maybe this is the wrong place for this, but I did post a "kill" (we let off at 60 due to traffic, he woulda won later on, but still...LS1<244whp 5.0 ????!)

To end all talk let me just say this all mustangs are

Junk
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Mustangs
Mustangs
Mustangs
Mustangs
Mustangs
Mustangs
Mustangs

Who ever owns a mustang please bow to f-bodys
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Originally Posted by Killemall
When I had my 04 LS1 Vette I laughed at the stock Mach1's..Let alone the GT..

I EASILY DETROYED a group of 4 stock to lightly modded mach1's in my bone stock AUTOMATIC 2.73 GEARED C5...

they were having a get together at the drag strip and I knew one of them. So they each took turns against the vette. Low and behold the C5 ran even with them 0-60 mph and then just walked away from 70-110 mph..

So I never even bothered running a GT....Keep in mind that my auto C5 ran dead even with my friend manual fire bird...So if you get a stick camaro you should have the same results..

hey killemall, or should i say 2.73Vette, did they ban you or something?
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Originally Posted by SMahar28
Hey i don't have your time slip bud
Gee...there's a shocker.

In that case, my car runs 6.90 @ 215mph on a 1.16 60'. I don't have
a time slip though.

Post a pic of your engine bay then.

I notice that you're kind of active in the for sale section. If you want to
continue to be a member here, I suggest you quit posting your
ignorance here.
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Originally Posted by Slow Vette
hey killemall, or should i say 2.73Vette, did they ban you or something?
Good catch...

2.73 vette - why did you create another account?
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Originally Posted by Killemall
When I had my 04 LS1 Vette I laughed at the stock Mach1's..Let alone the GT..

I EASILY DETROYED a group of 4 stock to lightly modded mach1's in my bone stock AUTOMATIC 2.73 GEARED C5...
LMFAO Stock Auto 2.73 C5's are slow.. You Detroyed a group, yeah like I believe that.. LMFAO
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Originally Posted by dan03mach
LMFAO Stock Auto 2.73 C5's are slow.. You Detroyed a group, yeah like I believe that.. LMFAO
This is the same guy that runs 13's in a bolt on & cam C5.
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Originally Posted by unit213
This is the same guy that runs 13's in a bolt on & cam C5.
Yes I know.. That is why I'm LMFAO at him..
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Originally Posted by unit213
This is the same guy that runs 13's in a bolt on & cam C5.
OMG, tell me you are kidding. That is just as pathetic as the C5 I saw run 14.7. I wouldn't have believed someone could be such a LEWSER, if I didn't see it myself.

BTW - that 14.7 was his best of the day, and he was happy about it.
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Originally Posted by SMahar28
To end all talk let me just say this all mustangs are

Junk
Mustangs
Mustangs
Mustangs
Mustangs
Mustangs
Mustangs
Mustangs
Mustangs

Who ever owns a mustang please bow to f-bodys
IT's cool, you are obviously a mis informed child that spent too much time sitting on his mommy's lap. Good luck in College kid.
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Originally Posted by 00 SLVR Z
Let me set this straight. 4v '99 & 01 Cobras and '03/04 Mach 1's are LS1 territory. Just because you beat two of your friends who own 4v's doesn't mean anything. There are factory freaks and factory duds. There are freak drivers and there are dud drivers. Those factors all play in on who will win stock vs. stock when it comes to an LS1 and a 4v Mustang. The S/C '03/04 Cobras on the other hand are not in LS1 territory stock vs. stock.
Everything in your post is correct, except for the part in bold, which is incorrect because that is a drivers race. 03/04 cobras and ls1's are definitely in the same territory.
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Originally Posted by jpat1023
03/04 cobras and ls1's are definitely in the same territory.
Nope...definitely not given equal drivers.

I've personally seen at least 10 different Cobras run 12.6 @ 112mph
in bone stock trim. Mine went 13.0 @ 111mph on a horrible 2.4 60'.
The potential was clearly there for mid 12's.

Several guys have gone 12.50's stock with the best I've heard being
a 12.43 @ 113mph. That's way out of LS1 territory.

I guess an Escort vs. a GT3 could be a "driver's race" too. However,
one car is far more potent in stock trim.
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I agree, Terminators almost NEVER!!! trap below 110 and LS1's almost NEVER trap above 110 (stock/stock). That tells me its all about the launch, aka driver, meaning with = drivers, its NOT an = race.
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Originally Posted by jpat1023
Everything in your post is correct, except for the part in bold, which is incorrect because that is a drivers race. 03/04 cobras and ls1's are definitely in the same territory.

In 1320' I agree to a point...only because a driver can mess up enough to make .5 second difference; even. But a good LS driver will not beat an avg terminator driver.
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Originally Posted by SMahar28
To end all talk let me just say this all mustangs are

Junk
Mustangs
Mustangs
Mustangs
Mustangs
Mustangs
Mustangs
Mustangs
Mustangs

Who ever owns a mustang please bow to f-bodys
Buddy, save all that breath to live on and just post any kind of pic of this car you have....
Like this, just ANY pic you have....

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...S/IMAG0018.jpg
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Heres another one...

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