Stock LS1 kills on 4.6L 99+ mustangs!!!
10-24-2006, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by lxh89
I am in Houston. I will run you motor vs motor at HRP. I only have two mods besides the nitrous, a cold air kit and a catless mid-pipe. All else is factory stock.
We can do street tire vs street tire (no drag radials) or sticky tire vs sticky tire (Drag radials, et street or et drag). First to take the Win light wins.
You game? You have more mods than me and surely if a modded mach can't beat a stock LS1, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. It should be a cake walk for you.
Just thought I would add my car weighs 3660lb with me in it so don't think for a second it's been lightened in any way. It's a full weight mach 1.
We can do street tire vs street tire (no drag radials) or sticky tire vs sticky tire (Drag radials, et street or et drag). First to take the Win light wins.
You game? You have more mods than me and surely if a modded mach can't beat a stock LS1, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. It should be a cake walk for you.
Just thought I would add my car weighs 3660lb with me in it so don't think for a second it's been lightened in any way. It's a full weight mach 1.
nice times man, what 60ft's did you cut on that 12.69 run?
by the way, be careful, since he's an A4, he could be stalled to. you just never know...
10-25-2006, 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by lxh89
This applies to all mustangs from 1994 to 2004.
The 6th and 7th digits of the VIN code denote vehicle series.
40: 2 door coupe
42: 2 door coupe GT
44: 2 door convertible
45: 2 door convertible GT
46: 2 door convertible Cobra
47 OR 48: 2 door coupe Cobra.
The 8th digit of the VIN denotes the engine.
4: 3.8L V6
C: 5.8L V8 Cobra R
D: 5.0L V8 Cobra
R: 4.6L DOHC V8 (MACH 1 ONLY)
T: 5.0L V8
X: 4.6L SOHC V8
V: 4.6L DOHC V8 (96-98, 99-01 COBRA ONLY)
Y: 4.6L DOHC V8 Supercharged (03-04 COBRA ONLY)
Now, the vin on my mach 1 has a 42 for the 6th and 7th digits which according to above is a 2 door coupe GT. The 8th digit is an R which is the 4.6L DOHC V8 found only in the mach 1. What does your mach 1 have in its VIN at those positions?
That's why a mach 1 is technically a Mustang GT with a 4V motor.
Tony
The 6th and 7th digits of the VIN code denote vehicle series.
40: 2 door coupe
42: 2 door coupe GT
44: 2 door convertible
45: 2 door convertible GT
46: 2 door convertible Cobra
47 OR 48: 2 door coupe Cobra.
The 8th digit of the VIN denotes the engine.
4: 3.8L V6
C: 5.8L V8 Cobra R
D: 5.0L V8 Cobra
R: 4.6L DOHC V8 (MACH 1 ONLY)
T: 5.0L V8
X: 4.6L SOHC V8
V: 4.6L DOHC V8 (96-98, 99-01 COBRA ONLY)
Y: 4.6L DOHC V8 Supercharged (03-04 COBRA ONLY)
Now, the vin on my mach 1 has a 42 for the 6th and 7th digits which according to above is a 2 door coupe GT. The 8th digit is an R which is the 4.6L DOHC V8 found only in the mach 1. What does your mach 1 have in its VIN at those positions?
That's why a mach 1 is technically a Mustang GT with a 4V motor.
Tony
'body' code decodes as GT Coupe does not make it a GT....even techinically. As stated above..there are WAY TOO many difference....techinically and engineerically (if that's even a word).
10-25-2006, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Stanger88
I belive the 99-until terminator Cobra's used T45's and TR3650's whatever was in the GT. I am unsure on the mach1, but I have heard it also used a TR3650 (a'la GT)
Yes...the GT's and Machs have tremec 3650s.....HOWEVER, the gear ratio's in the tranny's are spec'd differently. THe mach has much better drag gears in 1-2-3...even better than the T56 in the Cobra. Just like the 03-04, Cobra R, and Viper all have T56 tremecs, but the gearing is different in all three.
10-25-2006, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by bitterchaos
Mach 1's do look nice but they cannot keep up with a stock LS1. My friend has a 2004 mach 1 and i've raced him numerous times with my car stock, and then with intake, and then with a cutout, and soon with cams. Never has he ever pulled up within a car of me. Oh ya, and mine's also an automatic. He's a pretty decent driver, i've been in his car and seen him drive so his driving is not the problem. The interior is very nice but the performance doesn't cut it compared to an LS1.
Put down the crack pipe, and slowly back away.....
10-25-2006, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Slow Vette
nice times man, what 60ft's did you cut on that 12.69 run?
by the way, be careful, since he's an A4, he could be stalled to. you just never know...
by the way, be careful, since he's an A4, he could be stalled to. you just never know...
If he's hiding mods like a stall, that's kind of silly to be saying a mach 1 can't beat a stock LS1 now isnt it? I guess I could spray him and claim I was all motor then tell everyone how slow he is but that would be stupid.
Tony
10-25-2006, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ponygt65
I guess it boils down to perception. Ford did not want to add another body style/type. There was sixer, V8 (GT in this instance) and Cobra....that's about it. THe body type helped designate body panels (IE: front and rear bumpers). Vin designation for motor is a given. IMO (and others) just because the
'body' code decodes as GT Coupe does not make it a GT....even techinically. As stated above..there are WAY TOO many difference....techinically and engineerically (if that's even a word).
'body' code decodes as GT Coupe does not make it a GT....even techinically. As stated above..there are WAY TOO many difference....techinically and engineerically (if that's even a word).
Tony
10-25-2006, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ponygt65
I guess it boils down to perception. Ford did not want to add another body style/type. There was sixer, V8 (GT in this instance) and Cobra....that's about it. THe body type helped designate body panels (IE: front and rear bumpers). Vin designation for motor is a given. IMO (and others) just because the
'body' code decodes as GT Coupe does not make it a GT....even techinically. As stated above..there are WAY TOO many difference....techinically and engineerically (if that's even a word).
'body' code decodes as GT Coupe does not make it a GT....even techinically. As stated above..there are WAY TOO many difference....techinically and engineerically (if that's even a word).
10-25-2006, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 04Terminator
You are an offensive SOB! 
the guy that said that actually owns an 05 GT, LOL.as for the "racing well on message boards" the stang guys do that better than everyone.
like the guy with the 05 who raced with my stock 04 GTO 3 times and got whipped twice, but convienently only told his pinhead message board friends about the one time that I botched the launch. 
too bad he deleted his post when I busted him on it. 
LOL!!!
10-25-2006, 03:06 PM
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]thanks[/B] the guy that said that actually owns an 05 GT, LOL.
as for the "racing well on message boards" the stang guys do that better than everyone. like the guy with the 05 who raced with my stock 04 GTO 3 times and got whipped twice, but convienently only told his pinhead message board friends about the one time that I botched the launch. too bad he deleted his post when I busted him on it.
the guy that said that actually owns an 05 GT, LOL.as for the "racing well on message boards" the stang guys do that better than everyone.
like the guy with the 05 who raced with my stock 04 GTO 3 times and got whipped twice, but convienently only told his pinhead message board friends about the one time that I botched the launch. too bad he deleted his post when I busted him on it. 
Easy to do.
10-25-2006, 03:09 PM
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I know this thread has been derailed, but to the original poster Stanger88, my roomate has an '02 GT with a handfull of bolt ons (CAI, TB, and a few small things) plus 4.10s and when all I had was a lid, I walked him VERY hard. Now that I have 4.10s he wants nothing to do with me....
About 3 days later I ran into one of his buddies with an '99-'04 GT (not sure the year) and all he had was CAI.....It was very ugly
But I'm sure after 14 pages you have most likely either lost interest or already made your decesion. Mustangs look nice, and if you are dead set on getting one go with the Mach1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
About 3 days later I ran into one of his buddies with an '99-'04 GT (not sure the year) and all he had was CAI.....It was very ugly
But I'm sure after 14 pages you have most likely either lost interest or already made your decesion. Mustangs look nice, and if you are dead set on getting one go with the Mach1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10-25-2006, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by rk_2000_Z/28
But I'm sure after 14 pages you have most likely either lost interest or already made your decesion. Mustangs look nice, and if you are dead set on getting one go with the Mach1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10-25-2006, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by rk_2000_Z/28
I know this thread has been derailed, but to the original poster Stanger88, my roomate has an '02 GT with a handfull of bolt ons (CAI, TB, and a few small things) plus 4.10s and when all I had was a lid, I walked him VERY hard. Now that I have 4.10s he wants nothing to do with me....
About 3 days later I ran into one of his buddies with an '99-'04 GT (not sure the year) and all he had was CAI.....It was very ugly
But I'm sure after 14 pages you have most likely either lost interest or already made your decesion. Mustangs look nice, and if you are dead set on getting one go with the Mach1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
About 3 days later I ran into one of his buddies with an '99-'04 GT (not sure the year) and all he had was CAI.....It was very ugly
But I'm sure after 14 pages you have most likely either lost interest or already made your decesion. Mustangs look nice, and if you are dead set on getting one go with the Mach1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Some VERY!!! good info in this thread!!! I enjoyed your kill stories, its the stuff I was hoping for. Awesome! THANKS!
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10-27-2006, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by noride
stay with the stang family buy a mach 1
Nice last-ditch effort though
10-27-2006, 02:36 PM
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ws6 is a sweet car ,that was my other choice had them side by side but the mach still had alot less miles and factory warranty. i still miss my 98 ss.sorry to lose another stang driver