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Old 10-16-2006, 02:22 PM
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To tell you the truth the people who are paying 7-8 grand for a 98 and higher car got great deals but you might want to spend a little mroe for a better quality car with less miles . I bought my car 2.5 years ago for 19 with 18 thousand miles on it (previous owner was an older guy who garaged it ) and it is still in excellent condition becouse i have taked good car of it . I guess what i am trying to say is be careful you never know who beat the sh** out of the car with alot of miles on it and probally been patched together . I knwo 7 to 8 grand is a deal but you might get something that is a total pos covered with a maco paint job. Just be careful and do your research. By the way go with the ls1 you will not regret it . My neighbor has a 99gt with full exhaust and 4.10 gears and some other boltons and when i was stock right down to the paper filter i beat him by 2 cars on the street and 3 tenths at the track stock
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"an ls1 has 350-360 whp"

whooops, i ment to say crank hp but typed whp. lol....
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Originally Posted by Stanger88
He had a 1.5-2 car lead. We were doign 20mph on a service road under an overpass. I heard his exhaust get about 2X louder as the light turned green in front of us. I nailed it. By 60 he was making a comeback (I had passed him) and his nose was at my door.

That is an accurate account of what happened. You judge whether we were racing or not. Maybe he was just going 30% because he felt spirited and I took it wrong and then he nailed it as I passed him, I found it odd that I pulled that much and then he came freight training by. But he DID get on it before I did, how much I do not know I guess.
No offense intended Stanger, but I don't think he was racing until you saw him "freight training by". I bet he was just giving a little blip of the throttle under the overpass b/c it sounds good, I do it all the time , and you thought he was going so you punched it. By the time he had the chance to punch it you were already a car ahead. Then he proceded to pull you in rather quickly.

I could be wrong, but that is what it sounds like to me.

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Originally Posted by ZeroFear
"an ls1 has 350-360 whp"

whooops, i ment to say crank hp but typed whp. lol....
Glad you are correcting yourself, I am surprised you didn't get ripped harder for that one...
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Originally Posted by jpat1023
No offense intended Stanger, but I don't think he was racing until you saw him "freight training by". I bet he was just giving a little blip of the throttle under the overpass b/c he sounds good, I do it all the time , and you thought he was going so you punched it. By the time he had the chance to punch it you were already a car ahead. Then he proceded to pull you in rather quickly.

I could be wrong, but that is what it sounds like to me.

DAMN! I bet thats it!!! I do it too (and I sound better than any LS1 I ever heard

I will miss my cammed 5.0 with headers/o/r X and flows dumped pre-axle. Even the Chebby guys roll the windows down to hear it time to time

i sure wont miss the poor mileage and slowness though, but is 13K enough for a nice M6 01-02 car?
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buy a mach 1 i love mine .i had a 98 ss thiis car feel much better
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Originally Posted by JayplaySS2
If you are not getting a Mach1 or Cobra....save your pride and get an LS1. Serriously.
I agree. Stanger, if your into the looks of the Mustang and performance, don't get anything less than a 4v 4.6L. That means Cobra or Mach 1. Also, as you've stated, you've owned 2 OHV motors (your LT1 and your 5.0). If you switch over to the 4.6, you will have a OHC motor. OHV motors are much easier to work on than OHC motors, IMO.

If your going for performance and looks...I would recommend you to get one of these because they each offer both (not in any particular order either)...

'92-96 LT1 C4
'97-04 LS1 C5
'93-97 LT1 f-body
'98-02 LS1 f-body
'96-98 4v 4.6 Cobra
'99/01 4v 4.6 Cobra
'03-04 S/C 4v 4.6 Cobra
'03-04 4v 4.6 Mach 1

IMO, the 2v 4.6's are worthless if your going for a performance aspect. If you want a nice sounding car to just cruise around in, then yeah, the GT will be perfect for you. But if you want to actually make a track car, one of the above cars will do the job.
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FWIW: I sold a 2000 hardtop z28 on here w/ black leather interior, disk changer, cruise control, and everything worked like new.. car had been really well maintained.

Car had a slight bit of piston slap, but nothing that anyone consider abnormal.. for first 1 min of startup or so.

I sold it for $6900. I originally purchased it for $7200 with 93k-94k on it.

You will be able to find something nice in the 10k or less range, that is for sure..

For an SS/WS^ you might have to spend closer to your 13k to get something sweet.

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Originally Posted by distortion_69
FWIW: I sold a 2000 hardtop z28 on here w/ black leather interior, disk changer, cruise control, and everything worked like new.. car had been really well maintained.

Car had a slight bit of piston slap, but nothing that anyone consider abnormal.. for first 1 min of startup or so.

I sold it for $6900. I originally purchased it for $7200 with 93k-94k on it.

You will be able to find something nice in the 10k or less range, that is for sure..

For an SS/WS^ you might have to spend closer to your 13k to get something sweet.

Later,
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WS6 I LOVE THOSE!!! and no GT can compare for stance/look. It just looks like its coming to rape someone!!! (same with the SS but to a lesser extent)
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You think I can get a 01-02' 60-75K mile WS6 for 13K? (M6)
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Originally Posted by Stanger88
You think I can get a 01-02' 60-75K mile WS6 for 13K? (M6)
My roommate got a 2000 LS1 Z28, fully optioned with 32k miles for 14K
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Originally Posted by ZFan88
My roommate got a 2000 LS1 Z28, fully optioned with 32k miles for 14K

Nice, 60K miles would be okay with me on a clean car, so yeah, I should find what I am after if I take afew months to look.
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Originally Posted by Stanger88
You think I can get a 01-02' 60-75K mile WS6 for 13K? (M6)
Yes. Just look around for awhile till you find it...that's what I did and ended up with a perfectly kept 2000 SS with 60k on the clock for a little more than you are willing to pay, but that was like a year and a half ago. Good Luck.

btw, I love the sound of mustangs as well, I bet yours sounds great..
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Originally Posted by Stanger88
You think I can get a 01-02' 60-75K mile WS6 for 13K? (M6)
It would be hard to find a 01-02 WS6 in the 13k range. Any 01-02 premium f-body model (SS, WS6, Firehawk) will be 15k+ especially an M6 because they are the most sought after ones. You can easily find an 01-02 Formula, Z28 or T/A M6 in the 13k range.
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Originally Posted by 00 SLVR Z
It would be hard to find a 01-02 WS6 in the 13k range. Any 01-02 premium f-body model (SS, WS6, Firehawk) will be 15k+ especially an M6 because they are the most sought after ones. You can easily find an 01-02 Formula, Z28 or T/A M6 in the 13k range.

TA's look good to me. THat is my 2nd choice. You think a 01-02 M6 TA with 70K or less miles is do-able for 13+TTL?
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I got my 01 Formula with 18k on the clock for 16500, but I paid extra for the mileage obviously, you could find a much better deal but I wanted an 01 or 02 LS1 w/ less than 20k miles and I had 17 to spend so thats what I ended up with....just take your time and you will find a good deal.
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Originally Posted by Stanger88
TA's look good to me. THat is my 2nd choice. You think a 01-02 M6 TA with 70K or less miles is do-able for 13+TTL?
Oh yeah, very do-able.
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Originally Posted by 01FormulaTA
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Back to the original post. Let's put it this way. I never lost to a Mustang during my 2 years of F-bod ownership, streetracing and 1/4 mile racing. Did not lose to a single one, in any modded form (on my part or theirs). I must a killed about 2 dozen during that time period, and run even with an '03+ Cobra or two when my car was cam-only.
Every platform is moddable. Pick the one you like most and go from there. Heck, that fox you're driving in is a hell of a platform to make fast. Drop a 347 in there and raise some hell.
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Originally Posted by SouthFL.02.SS
Back to the original post. Let's put it this way. I never lost to a Mustang during my 2 years of F-bod ownership, streetracing and 1/4 mile racing. Did not lose to a single one, in any modded form (on my part or theirs). I must a killed about 2 dozen during that time period, and run even with an '03+ Cobra or two when my car was cam-only.
Every platform is moddable. Pick the one you like most and go from there. Heck, that fox you're driving in is a hell of a platform to make fast. Drop a 347 in there and raise some hell.

i was planning a cage and keith craft 408 w/AFR'S but i want a newer, nicer car with better re-sale.
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