Police intimidation
[QUOTE=99z28monster] Actually I might be the one under the rock as all my law enforcement experience comes from working the south side of Chicago, so things tend to get rough from time to time. From a strictly legal standpoint, if I were to ask you to do something, like turn your music down because it's in violation of our local sound ordinance, and you told me to **** off, you could be arrested for disorderly conduct, resisting/obstructing a police officer, and whatever else I could think of after scanning the criminal code. If you were just to come up to me out of the blue and say **** off for no reason I could charge you with disorderly conduct. Not that I would, but I could.
Originally Posted by rubber duck
If you tell a cop to **** off face to face all it's going to get you is hurt,
are you a cop? what makes it that a if you tell a cop to **** off to his face you will get hurt? What can they just "hurt" people when they want because they are a cop? Please help me out here i must be living under a rock or something.
are you a cop? what makes it that a if you tell a cop to **** off to his face you will get hurt? What can they just "hurt" people when they want because they are a cop? Please help me out here i must be living under a rock or something.
all right i see point taken thank you. this would vary from place to place could it not? the point i am interested in is the being arrested for disorderly conduct for the cursing for no reason, I am not arguing or anything you seem to know more about this than me i always though you could say almost any thing you want because of freedom of speech. I know as a soilder there are alot of things that people can do and no legal action can be taken against them, I am talking about military police also.
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Originally Posted by Azrael
It is sad that our car community has to be associated with idiots like you...
Oh well live and learn.
Oh well live and learn.
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What comes around goes around. It use to happen to me 20 years ago. Now I do not donate money in any way to my local police, I vote against anything that has to do with police. Pay raises, improvements, new jobs, or whatever.
It all stems for cops doing this crap instead of handling people in a respecful manner.
The problem is lack of education that you need to be a cop. But then again anyone that offers you a job while handing you a gun and says "you may need this" just has to be a dumb *** in the first place.
It all stems for cops doing this crap instead of handling people in a respecful manner.
The problem is lack of education that you need to be a cop. But then again anyone that offers you a job while handing you a gun and says "you may need this" just has to be a dumb *** in the first place.
I have friends who are cops and have been on good terms with many others over the years and they are cool people, but the other 80% out there are on power trips. After all they are human beings, not gods, so I guess we just need to realize they have their faults too and deal with it in our own individual ways.
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From: Arizona.
Originally Posted by jattgunman
... I was pulling into the bank of america in my camaro with my system on I have a kicker l7 ...as I pull in I see to to guys staring at me as they approach the door to the bank i was like whatever then one of the guy open up his jacket and moves his hip u know like in the movies when u gotta gun and with his other hand does a thumbs down gesture to me..I was like ? so i ask him what do u want??I stopped pullin up in my car he opens up his jacket again the same way but points at his badge which is next to his gun ..so hes a cop Not in uniform...so i just waved him down u know and found a parkin spot.....i go in the bank and make my depoist and hes standin rite next to me...I was upset about the fact he was tryin to scare me outside so i asked him his name he had already seen me standin next to him..he replies his name and I ask him if he works in town he says "yes"he then says" why are u goin to report me?"I said yes i am hes goes"ok well im gonna write u a ticket then"I asked for what?"so he goes on about my system i told him you where showin me ur gun I say go ahead give me the ticket ...so he leaves and the bank people are like what happenend?so i tell them what had happened outside...so while leavin the bank he was waitin for me by blockin my car in ..asks me for my license and calls a bike cop who wouldnt even listen to me and told me to be quit...the bike cop issues me the ticket and he wasnt even there when this all happened..do you guys think what they did was rite?i gotta ticket for askin his name?dont they have to tell you it if you ask? when i tried to file a complaint and talk to a sargeant he asked me why i asked his name dont i have a right to?i didnt know who else to ask but you guys so please let me know what u think..and what I should do? i guess i got a good kill story today
He indicates he is a cop and that you are too loud.
This pisses you off.
You say you are going to report him.
He says that he is going to write you a ticket then.
I dont know the specifics, but heres my take:
You pull up blasting you music which not everyone wants to hear at 8 million decibels. Rather than just have a cop ticket you for that, this guy just tries to quiet you down without shouting. Without some annoying "excuse me sir...". He tries to use a simple gesture. Which is sorta his job since Cops are supposed to keep stuff like that in check per local ordanances, on or off duty. But you decide to get real pissed about it and report this guy who was trying to do his job without resorting to paper work.
Good for the cop. I dont know you, but that's BS man. This guy tried to enforce a local ordanace without getting you into trouble and you take some BS tough guy attatude and say you're going to report him for it. You're the one who gave him a hard time first. Simply indicating a badge and gun does not constitute intimidation. I guess you might be worried about it if you are doing illegal stuff. Like maybe blasting your music too loud. But if a cop tried to warn me without a ticket or anything formal when I was being an *** I would be thankful. I wouldnt be a punk and tell him I am going to report him and basicly throw that courtesy right back in his face.
Maybe I am missing something, but to me it sounds like you took one gesture thats easaly mis understood and decided to call it "intimidation" and act like an *** to the cop. Did it occur to you that maybe he was not trying to show the gun, that maybe his badge was just in an ackward spot to show you?
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From: Arizona.
Originally Posted by Joezee
am i the only one who read this guy's post.......he assumed the "guy" was flashing his gun, when all the cop did was show his hip badge, and motion for him to turn down his PUNK *** system.......the cop SHOULD have given him the ticket RIGHTAWAY.......the cop WAS letting him off, BUT nooooo , he CHALLENGED the cop PUBLICLY and said,"GO AHEAD AND GIVE ME THE TICKET."........
no disrepect dude , but you were the agressor.....you got off easy.....
no disrepect dude , but you were the agressor.....you got off easy.....
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From: Arizona.
Originally Posted by stockz
ITS SAD THAT PEOPLE DONT STAND UP FOR THEIR RIGHT'S ANYMORE .. go ahead and lay down and take it.. you should move over to irac and live there since you seem not to want to take a stand.. then they can tell you what to do, when to do it and run your life for you ..ect .. i fought for my country JUST SO PEOPLE LIKE YOU can run your mouth.. like it or not thats freedom .. the cop is taking the law to far, obviouly ...and he will keep abusing till he is stopped .. it happens in the us army and us navy , adn nation gaurd units ..YOU think it doesn't happen in the police deptment?? wake up
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Because frankly I don't think you fought for **** in ****. A serviceman that cant spell Iraq correctly? "C" is not next to "Q" on my keyboard. And none of the servicemen I have talked to speak that way. The ones that do talk tough are usually clerks and other REMFs who have not fired a shot off the range. Thats info from a Marine BTW along with family members.
If I am wrong I apollogize right now. But I'm not wrong.
Last edited by Sparetire; Jan 3, 2007 at 09:04 AM.
Originally Posted by stockz
ITS SAD THAT PEOPLE DONT STAND UP FOR THEIR RIGHT'S ANYMORE .. go ahead and lay down and take it.. you should move over to irac and live there since you seem not to want to take a stand.. then they can tell you what to do, when to do it and run your life for you ..ect .. i fought for my country JUST SO PEOPLE LIKE YOU can run your mouth.. like it or not thats freedom .. the cop is taking the law to far, obviouly ...and he will keep abusing till he is stopped .. it happens in the us army and us navy , adn nation gaurd units ..YOU think it doesn't happen in the police deptment?? wake up
You want to lecture me on freedom with the joint on your ear? I think you need to qualify yourself...
Oh that is right I forgot, your our (LS1tech) village idiot...
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Originally Posted by Azrael
I was an Army Ranger for 10 years (3/75th Ft. Benning, GA) I have been to the middle east, and western Africa, and many other places you can't spell. I have also been a police officer going on 6 years.
You want to lecture me on freedom with the joint on your ear? I think you need to qualify yourself...
Oh that is right I forgot, your our (LS1tech) village idiot...
You want to lecture me on freedom with the joint on your ear? I think you need to qualify yourself...
Oh that is right I forgot, your our (LS1tech) village idiot...
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From: Chattanooga, tn
Originally Posted by Azrael
I was an Army Ranger for 10 years (3/75th Ft. Benning, GA) I have been to the middle east, and western Africa, and many other places you can't spell. I have also been a police officer going on 6 years.
You want to lecture me on freedom with the joint on your ear? I think you need to qualify yourself...
Oh that is right I forgot, your our (LS1tech) village idiot...
You want to lecture me on freedom with the joint on your ear? I think you need to qualify yourself...
Oh that is right I forgot, your our (LS1tech) village idiot...
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Hey stockz you might want to type you’re text in word than cut and paste. Also what the hell are so many cops doing in the street racing section? 
My Dad was a cop for 18 years there are cops with power trips than there are good cops. I tell you what sucks worse than a power trip cop is being a cop’s kid my Dad was also Sheriff for 8 of them years. I was not the favorite at parties when I was back in school. It also has its perks when you get stopped for speeding.
My Dad was a cop for 18 years there are cops with power trips than there are good cops. I tell you what sucks worse than a power trip cop is being a cop’s kid my Dad was also Sheriff for 8 of them years. I was not the favorite at parties when I was back in school. It also has its perks when you get stopped for speeding.
Originally Posted by 99z28monster
all right i see point taken thank you. this would vary from place to place could it not? the point i am interested in is the being arrested for disorderly conduct for the cursing for no reason, I am not arguing or anything you seem to know more about this than me i always though you could say almost any thing you want because of freedom of speech. I know as a soilder there are alot of things that people can do and no legal action can be taken against them, I am talking about military police also.
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Still the way the cop "attempted" to tell this kid to turn down his music wasn't something they trained in the academy I'm sure. He SHOULD have walked over to this dudes car and either tell him to keep it down or write a ticket there. END OF STORY. NOT go inside the bank and write a ticket BECAUSE this dude got smart with him. You can try to justify all you want the cop handled it poorly because of the huge chip on his shoulder. Youngins will be youngins.... we were all there. -Mark
Thankfully the Cops in the UK are not armed they are big enough *** holes without putting a gun in there hands!
I cringe when I see your cop programs when you here those loud mouthed cops screaming for people to get out of thre cars while waving their guns around. It' like a wild west movie! Cowboys come to mind!
And your Police chases are hilarious 1 guy being chased by 20 cops cars!
That would never happen in the UK! 2 -3 cars maybe!
And cops can't speak to you like your something thay have stepped in! They have to treat you with respect which something that looks like it sorely lacking in a lot of your gun happy cops! IMO
I cringe when I see your cop programs when you here those loud mouthed cops screaming for people to get out of thre cars while waving their guns around. It' like a wild west movie! Cowboys come to mind!
And your Police chases are hilarious 1 guy being chased by 20 cops cars!
That would never happen in the UK! 2 -3 cars maybe!
And cops can't speak to you like your something thay have stepped in! They have to treat you with respect which something that looks like it sorely lacking in a lot of your gun happy cops! IMO
Originally Posted by Bitemark46
Still the way the cop "attempted" to tell this kid to turn down his music wasn't something they trained in the academy I'm sure. He SHOULD have walked over to this dudes car and either tell him to keep it down or write a ticket there. END OF STORY. NOT go inside the bank and write a ticket BECAUSE this dude got smart with him. You can try to justify all you want the cop handled it poorly because of the huge chip on his shoulder. Youngins will be youngins.... we were all there. -Mark