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Mod list: 98 LS1 Z28 A4, stock (3:23's). 02 SS M6, SLP catback, lid, cut out plastic under the intake for more air and a tune. 94 Z28 A4, LT headers, matching Y-pipe, cai, and a tune. (3:23's)

First race, all three lined up. LT1 takes all of them from a dig and keeps pulling the stock LS1 gradually. (stock LS1 had some traction issues) The SS started catching the LT1 and by 90 is almost at the door, but both cars let off.

2nd race, 25 roll against the LS1 Z28. Pretty equal hits, the LT1 jumps out and pulls about a car and a half by 75ish. (it looked the the LT1 was still pulling a tad)

3rd race, LT1 one car length behind the SS and nails it at 30Mph. The SS immediately pursues, but the LT1 still got a little jump. The LT1 pulls next to the SS's door and by 75 the LT1's pull had stopped and it was even. Both cars shut down almost side by side with the SS in front.

4th race, SS Vs LT1, dig. LT1 jumps out a car length and holds it for a while, the SS catches and gets to the LT1's door by 103ish and then the LS1's pull stopped and it stayed even. Both cars shut down side by side.

5th race, LT1 Vs SS, low roll. The SS gets on it a little before and the LT1 pursues. (about 10mph hit) The LT1 gains the hit back and is on the SS's door. SS bangs 2nd and jumps ahead a bit and keeps a pull through 3rd and ended up almost a car ahead by 80ish. (looked like the LS1 SS would have pulled a little more though)

6th race, LS1 Z28 Vs SS, dig. Pretty even for a second, then the SS just pulled and stayed ahead. Not sure what speed they stopped at.

7th race, not really a race, but kind of. LS1 Vs LT1 55 roll. LS1 takes a slightly early hit and the LT1 gains it back right away making the cars side by side and it was staying even. Both cars shut down at 65mph due to traffic and never got out of 2nd gear.

Overall, some good runs. Nicely matched cars and impressed with the LT1. If the LS1 Z28 had some better tires, i would imagine a lot of the dig races would have been better.

landstuhltaylor

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nice coverage

Skrilla

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IMO U should have pulled him hard

knight17Z

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LT1 lol

sounds like a fun night

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Pulled who, the stock LS1? I pulled it very hard from a dig, but that's because he didn't have tires. From a 25 roll i pulled pretty good as well. We only got to 75ish and i was still going. What else would you expect? A stock A4 LS1 should trap about 103 and the LT1 should be right around there...Both cars most likely have about 285-295Rwhp...(just a guess)

Frost

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Nah, that LT1 has had a healthy share of modding to make it run like that...

knight17Z

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94 Z28 A4, LT headers, matching Y-pipe, cai, and a tune. (3:23's)
dosen't seem like that much to me

It's stupid that some people think LT1's can't run with a LS1

99Z28LS1

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none of us said the LT1 was slow, but you're picking on stock LS1's...... and a tune is a pretty penny if done right

good kill and try to find some better races

Skrilla

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Haha
My 93 Z28 M6.. Pacesetter shorties, magnaflow, and pulley vs 02 T/A A4 Pacesetter LT's, Magnaflow, and lid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDktQMdzVWw

Frost

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Doesn't really add up, but whatever.... I'm in an F-body club with a lot of cars. My buddy JUST cracked into 12s (as in .9Xs) last season with his Lt1, M6, headers, CAI, cam, afermarket clutch, 4.10s and a cutout. It's not that he is a bad driver either, his 60s aren't bad on DRs, yet this is what the car runs. I've seen another guy in the club with his '00 SS M6 run 12.9Xs with just DRs; the entire car was paper-filter stock. So there it is...

slowmofo

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I have a friend with a 93 with the same mods MINUS the cam, who has ran 12.9

He is a hellva driver, so who knows...

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Better races? I thought they were pretty equal giving a pretty big advantage to the 02 SS M6 with his share of mods. That car should be around 330Rwhp. He ran a 13.1 bone stock to the filter...He is in the 12's for sure right now.

Your right, a tune is a pretty penny. But, the LT1 has one and so does the 02 SS. So, what is your point? That's right, you don't have one. Have a nice day.

Picking on a stock LS1, you crack me up. All the LT1 primarily has is exhaust work. Everyone says the LS1 owns the LT1 stock for stock and then an LT1 puts exhaust on the car and it's a different ball game. I'm sorry two cars that should dyno about the same are a bad match up to you...

To whoever is talking about the LT1 having it's share of mods. What are you talking about? Why do you LS1 people think this is hard to believe? Are you really that ignorant? The 02 SS pulled on the LT1 and was an overall faster car. A stock LS1 A4 traps about 103ish. That's exactly where an LT1 with the mods listed should be at. There is nothing weird, or strange about this. It's perfectly expected. I don't care about this guy you saw that has done all these mods and finally ran into the 12's. GREAT! Wow, you saw an LS1 run 12's with DR's. Cool, that was an M6 which was faster like we already went over! With the mods listed, on a cool night a 12.989 is reasonable. If not, 13.0-13.1.

Look how bad that LT1 pulled on the A4 LS1 with the same mods above. I'm not sure who posted it, but that is a prime example how much slower the A4 is...

Here is a video of the same LT1 that raced the stock A4 LS1 and 02 SS. This race is against an 05 GTO M6 and a 98 Cobra with full bolt ons. LT1 is camera car.

Click here for video

BayAreaSS

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Nice runs.

burnzilla

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LS1 owners give me a laugh everytime they try and knock the LT1 off.
Horrible stock intake, e-manifold and exhaust design take about 20-30 hp from LT1.

Races are no surprise to me.
Good runs.

jamesSS

good runs man. keep em comming.

METALBEAST

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Don't sweat it man. Ignorant people are everywhere. Great runs

GXPPOWER

i would have liked to have run an lt1 with headers/exhaust and cai. and i bet my 13.5@105 100% stock would be faster 9/10 times.

a stock lt1 will not hang with an a4 ls1. end of story. a4 ls1 have trapped up to 108 mph stock. i went 13.5@105 stock in my VERT. im by no means the fastest a4. a4 generaly trap 105 lt1 are lucky to break over 100. ive seen a couple 102 mph traps once or twice

when i was stock i ran vs a lt1 with cai and exhuast i ran 8.6@85 mph he ran 8.9@79 mph we both had 2.0 60fts.

so where was that "low end" dominance lt1 are supposed to have?

i dont doubt your races but dont compare lt1 to ls1 auto or not the ls1 is faster

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Your car runs strong and the MPH numbers are little high for stock especially being a vert. I'm not saying i don't believe you, it just may be that your car is a little quicker than most stock LS1 A4's. I have seen an SS LS1 run consistent 8.9's @ 81.8mph consistent over and over again. Sure, he spun a little and got a 2.1 60ft, but his mph was not there for a 105mph trap. This was a hard top as well. That same night i was running mid 8's @ 83.4. (it was a humid night) Your car just runs good.

kennyxg

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I have owned 2 93 z's one a4 the other m6. The a/4 with only 52MM TB 13.5 AT 102 1.9 60 ft on reg tires.The m6 was 13.7 with a 2.0 60ft same mph.The m6 was bone stock , in my personal experience it's not likely for a near stock Lt1 to run with a stosk Ls1. Not saying it can't happen but unlikely.Ihave gotten the jump on stock Ls1's and kept the lead threw the 1/4 mile.

Cole Train

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i've ran a few Ls1's before. 2 Vette's(one RAPED me, one i edged out from a 0-125 race). The later of the the Vettes was a '98 M6 with exhaust, intake, chip. My mods are listed below but without the Racetronix kit and runnin' kinda crappy. I raced a '01 WS6 6 speed from a 25 roll and he raped me. He was modded but i'm not sure what done but it was LOUD. Then i raced a '01 T/A auto from a dig and a roll and whooped his *** BAD both times. It's a hit or miss but for the most part the LS1 is quicker. I've run into one's either way that are usually surprised too at how fast my old LT1 is. It's KILLER from a dig. I can usually out launch most (getting good now). Automatics are no fun to drive either. No reason's to flame over which is better. Everybody likes whatever they like so get over it. I would love a newer body LS1 but i really enjoy my LT1 too. I make enough money to afford an LS1 and then some, BUT i'm interested in banking as much $$$ as possible now to buy a house. I'll keep my LT1 and wait for the '09 SS to come out and keep my LT1 for my son if i have any kids in the next 10 years Would be a good first muscle car.