Street Racing & Kill Stories Basic Technical Questions & Advice

LS1 vs. Bikes

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-13-2007, 05:49 PM
  #61  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (11)
 
Red99TA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Topeka, KS
Posts: 2,423
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

I believe it...if the bike has one of the plug wires unplugged
Red99TA is offline  
Old 01-13-2007, 06:09 PM
  #62  
10 Second Club
iTrader: (4)
 
sleeperstyle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: hatboro, pa
Posts: 1,284
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

if it was an older 600 i believe it. they were NOT that fast at all, 12's mostly maybe high 11's. like racing a newer 250
sleeperstyle is offline  
Old 01-13-2007, 06:31 PM
  #63  
On The Tree
 
stockz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Chattanooga, tn
Posts: 180
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by sleeperstyle
if it was an older 600 i believe it. they were NOT that fast at all, 12's mostly maybe high 11's. like racing a newer 250
yeah my freinds say the new ones would kill me ... so must have been old .. had fun though
stockz is offline  
Old 01-14-2007, 12:21 AM
  #64  
Tin Foil Hat Wearin' Fool
iTrader: (36)
 
1slow01Z71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 23,027
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I dont know what 600s you guys are racing but my 01 F4i with ram air, full length akrapovic exhaust and power commander traps 126-128 consistantly, times arent great due to the stock clutch and not wanting to replace it. 11.6s with a 2.1 60ft

I have raced many f-bodys and a few vettes and have walked them all I dont know what mods they had but they were all loud as hell atleast except for one FRC. You guys that are saying walk 600s with ease are either racing sick bikes or someone that cant ride for ****.

Bike and me with a full tank weigh 530 and stock it put down 120 with mods Im looking at high 130s low 140s, vs. a 3500# brick with 400rwhp. Not a hard one to call IMO.
1slow01Z71 is offline  
Old 01-14-2007, 02:18 AM
  #65  
TECH Apprentice
 
VENGEANCE's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 361
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

i ran about even with them in high speed rolls with my last cam only Z28 six speed....
VENGEANCE is offline  
Old 01-14-2007, 02:33 AM
  #66  
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
93transam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Desert wasteland
Posts: 237
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Red99TA
165 hp from a 636? uh no, unless you're talking at the crank and then figure about a 35% drivetrain loss which I'm pretty sure there's not that much loss in the tranny, sprockets, and chain.
I meant crank, and the HP figure I got from a sales guy at the local bike shop. I don't think there would be a big drivetrain loss myself but my knowledge is not that extensive. When I get out of college and have more time and money I'm going all out on my next Kawi.
93transam is offline  
Old 01-14-2007, 06:57 AM
  #67  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (11)
 
Red99TA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Topeka, KS
Posts: 2,423
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by 93transam
I meant crank, and the HP figure I got from a sales guy at the local bike shop. I don't think there would be a big drivetrain loss myself but my knowledge is not that extensive. When I get out of college and have more time and money I'm going all out on my next Kawi.
No problem, the sales guy was full of **** though. Sounds like he was confusing the HP numbers between the ZX-10R and the 636. The most recent bike I've owned was an '02 CBR954RR which was around 150 HP at the crank. All the newer ('04 and up) liter bikes are just sick as far as power goes...150 at the wheel and above. When I get another it will be hard to choose b/w the R1, 1K, and 10R.
Red99TA is offline  
Old 01-14-2007, 08:32 AM
  #68  
Teching In
 
06zx6r's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 0
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

ok i have a 2006 zx-6r and it puts down 107 hp here in the uk with a slip on air fliter and power commander. and i am tired of looking at this and keeping my mouth shut. so here you go a zx-10r an 2004-05 at the crack has 184hp, my 2004 cbr600rr track bike has 120hp to the wheels and thats with out the ported head with its 131hp to the wheel. so if you want to try it on for size i dare you to even try if i am looking the wrong way and you blow past me i will catch you period. my zx-6r on the clock i have gotten up to 189 mph. and aerodynamics hahahahahahaha um lets see a f body has the frontle area of a brick compaired to my zx-6r. i weight 155lbs with a wet weight of my bike being around 400lbs so 555lbs with 107hp fully tucked, oh yeah i get full tucked with nothen hanging out for the wind to catch on. so if you would like to try and see how bad you will get spanked by my bike come to the UK and i will show you what a bike looks like when its 5,6,7 car lenths in front of you. if you want to try a faster bike i will get my cbr out and you will be crying and i hope you can run 9's in your car with the cbr. oh yeah and my zx-6r will run 10.93's all day long with me on it. so in another words you will not touch a modern day bike period dot. Oh yeah i have a 2006 gto m6.
06zx6r is offline  
Old 01-14-2007, 10:50 AM
  #69  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (22)
 
slow trap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: tennessee
Posts: 2,639
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

well i haven't ran any bikes but i do have a bone stock busa and from a 100 punch it still pulls extremely hard.even a newer 600 bike will gain quite a bit of mph from the 1/8th to the 1/4 so anything under a 60 mph punch a bolton car will get *** raped with just a mediocre rider.unless there is a complete tard on the bike a bolton car will lose,period.
slow trap is offline  
Old 01-14-2007, 11:31 AM
  #70  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (11)
 
Red99TA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Topeka, KS
Posts: 2,423
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by slow trap
well i haven't ran any bikes but i do have a bone stock busa and from a 100 punch it still pulls extremely hard.even a newer 600 bike will gain quite a bit of mph from the 1/8th to the 1/4 so anything under a 60 mph punch a bolton car will get *** raped with just a mediocre rider.unless there is a complete tard on the bike a bolton car will lose,period.
You do realize that the busa is in another league from a new 600 right? That thing has crazy torque compared to a 600 so it will drag your *** down the road from any speed let alone 100mph and up! I know it's not the fastest bike out there anymore but I'm just saying it's not fair to compare it to a 600. I think the consensus here (from the people that ride/have ridden sportbikes) is that a bolt-on LS1 will get *** raped like you said.
Red99TA is offline  
Old 01-14-2007, 02:54 PM
  #71  
Teching In
 
Joezee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Springhill FL.
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

i think in order to post on ls1tech.com a person should have to wear an electric dog collar....so every time someone posts total and complete BS that person would get zapped.....
opinions are one thing , but some of these responses are not even funny.
Joezee is offline  
Old 01-15-2007, 01:22 PM
  #72  
On The Tree
 
HeavyWeight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Ft Bragg, NC
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I raced a 750 GSXR from a 30 mph roll. I got beat by a car
HeavyWeight is offline  
Old 01-15-2007, 02:53 PM
  #73  
SDB
10 Second Club
iTrader: (7)
 
SDB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,327
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by HeavyWeight
I raced a 750 GSXR from a 30 mph roll. I got beat by a car

.....the BIGGEST car in the whole world!!!

you must be joking, right.....
SDB is offline  
Old 01-15-2007, 05:42 PM
  #74  
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
93transam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Desert wasteland
Posts: 237
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by SDB
.....the BIGGEST car in the whole world!!!

you must be joking, right.....
Like a stretch limousine.
93transam is offline  
Old 01-15-2007, 07:27 PM
  #75  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (17)
 
bad6as's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Maryland
Posts: 4,796
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

j/w aprox what does a 02 gsxr 600 do in the 1/4

and does any one know a site like ls1 tech for suzuki bikes?
bad6as is offline  
Old 01-15-2007, 08:30 PM
  #76  
Teching In
 
Oldbones's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Houston/Kansas City
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I took down a 2006 yamaha YZF-R6 from a dig on blower only, "540 rwhp car weighs 3320lb" I've beaten alot of older bikes. Yet this bikes got some *****.

Last edited by Oldbones; 01-15-2007 at 08:38 PM.
Oldbones is offline  
Old 01-15-2007, 08:58 PM
  #77  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (2)
 
mattraypharbor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: palmharbor/Clearwater,FL
Posts: 979
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

how the hell did u get ur cobra to that weight???
mattraypharbor is offline  
Old 01-15-2007, 09:14 PM
  #78  
Teching In
 
Oldbones's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Houston/Kansas City
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by mattraypharbor
how the hell did u get ur cobra to that weight???


Teksid block 85lb less then the stock block, after market seats, no rear seat, k-member, a-arms, coilovers, mufflers only weigh 3lb,and what ever else I could throw out with out compromising the comfort of the car. I even have a battery the only weighs 12lb.

Last edited by Oldbones; 01-15-2007 at 09:29 PM.
Oldbones is offline  
Old 01-15-2007, 09:23 PM
  #79  
12 Second Club
 
LC2nLS6's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Back in 2001, raced my neighbors (good riders) R1, R6, gixxer 600. THey had all kinds of bikes. Modded a little too. I only raced them on their 600's. We would go from 30 rolls. I ran my factory stock 385 hp 2001 Z06. They would pull a few cars on my hard from 30 but by 100 I would be gaining and by 150 plus I would be even with them or right at their rear wheel. These were 2001/2002 model bikes so they have less power than today's 600's which I'm sure would rape my 115 mph trapping Z06.
LC2nLS6 is offline  
Old 01-15-2007, 09:29 PM
  #80  
12 Second Club
 
LC2nLS6's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

When I lived in Colorado, I never lost to a bike in my Turbo Buick. I trapped 122 to 125 mph when the DA was 6000-10,000 feet Heck most trailered race cars at Bandimere weren't faster than me. So if you want to go pick on bikes, go forced induction and go to the mtns. And pray you don't race a turbo Busa of course.
LC2nLS6 is offline  


Quick Reply: LS1 vs. Bikes



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:23 AM.