First run in with a Terminator..
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To the thread starter - nice death. No shame in being beaten by a car that is underrated at 390 (time to start moddin! 
) In one magazine I read, it put down 381 at the wheels while a SVT engineer/rep (can't remember) was standing by. He "chalked it up to Ford's very efficient driveline". <---Yeah, my @$$!!!
To the guy who wanted a 12 sec FI stock import: I can't think of a true, bonefide 12 second car, but I know the Evo (8, MR? (don't remember)) and the STI were very close. Same magazine I quoted above ran a STOCK 03/04 Cobra vs a STOCK STI and the STI actually beat him at the track (1/4). Same guy drove both, and I believe the STI had beaten it by .1 seconds (Something like a 13.29 to a 13.19). Now maybe he couldn't drive the cobra like he could the STI, maybe it was too hot, maybe this, maybe that. But my point it on the same day (same track conditions/heat/etc) the big bad Terminator was outperformed by a little 4 cyl FI). You would probably guess I like the STI more than the Terminator, but you'd be wrong.
I have mad respect for any car/bike/truck, I've said it quite a few times. I don't care whether it's a Terminator, a LS1, BB or a SB anything, 4 cyl turbo, diesel or a "crotch rocket". If it's fast, it's fast and therefore fun. I prefer V8 power over anything, and I'm sure I'll never own anything else.
From what I remember, you can hear the whine of the blower. You may have to REALLY listen for it when it's stock...and when they do a CAI & definitely a pulley you can really hear it. Hell, my buddy had an 04 Ion Redline (it was pretty quick...251 at the wheels). When he removed the silencer it was loud, not to mention, once he started to do all his modding (I believe he was "stage 4") his car sounded like a Terminator (Redlines had an Eaton also)...minus 4 cylinders
That's my .02 - and I'm not trying to start another debate, so take it, FWIW.
-Nate
) In one magazine I read, it put down 381 at the wheels while a SVT engineer/rep (can't remember) was standing by. He "chalked it up to Ford's very efficient driveline". <---Yeah, my @$$!!!To the guy who wanted a 12 sec FI stock import: I can't think of a true, bonefide 12 second car, but I know the Evo (8, MR? (don't remember)) and the STI were very close. Same magazine I quoted above ran a STOCK 03/04 Cobra vs a STOCK STI and the STI actually beat him at the track (1/4). Same guy drove both, and I believe the STI had beaten it by .1 seconds (Something like a 13.29 to a 13.19). Now maybe he couldn't drive the cobra like he could the STI, maybe it was too hot, maybe this, maybe that. But my point it on the same day (same track conditions/heat/etc) the big bad Terminator was outperformed by a little 4 cyl FI). You would probably guess I like the STI more than the Terminator, but you'd be wrong.
I have mad respect for any car/bike/truck, I've said it quite a few times. I don't care whether it's a Terminator, a LS1, BB or a SB anything, 4 cyl turbo, diesel or a "crotch rocket". If it's fast, it's fast and therefore fun. I prefer V8 power over anything, and I'm sure I'll never own anything else.
From what I remember, you can hear the whine of the blower. You may have to REALLY listen for it when it's stock...and when they do a CAI & definitely a pulley you can really hear it. Hell, my buddy had an 04 Ion Redline (it was pretty quick...251 at the wheels). When he removed the silencer it was loud, not to mention, once he started to do all his modding (I believe he was "stage 4") his car sounded like a Terminator (Redlines had an Eaton also)...minus 4 cylinders
That's my .02 - and I'm not trying to start another debate, so take it, FWIW.
-Nate
Last edited by Nate81Camaro; Feb 27, 2007 at 03:41 AM.
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Originally Posted by Finite1
exactly. what is the point of straight line performance. My car could be within a week of having all it needs to beat your precious 03 cobra.
I'm definately not promoting GM on a Ford website though.
and I think that alone makes.... me > you.
I'm definately not promoting GM on a Ford website though.
and I think that alone makes.... me > you.
to run their mouths.
Originally Posted by Finite1
and where did I say my car was better than an 03 cobra?
Ford sucks. I could care less either way, but the fact you're on here trying to hold this shadow of hope that some of us will give a **** about Ford and actually continueing to debate on a competitors forum says a lot about your character.
I appreciate learning. but you're just promoting your car. theres a lot better than ford when it comes to forced induction cars. Ford just actually made 2 years of a good one. why would you get so defensive?
Ford sucks. I could care less either way, but the fact you're on here trying to hold this shadow of hope that some of us will give a **** about Ford and actually continueing to debate on a competitors forum says a lot about your character.
I appreciate learning. but you're just promoting your car. theres a lot better than ford when it comes to forced induction cars. Ford just actually made 2 years of a good one. why would you get so defensive?
Dude you are a moron. I'm on here because I like GM's.
Originally Posted by unit213
We have a standing rule here...guys who run 13's are not allowed
to run their mouths.
to run their mouths.
also I have friends who run REAL race cars at the track..
You of ALL people should be AT LEAST trying to promote GM performance and throw out suggestions about our cars.. but even YOU are guilty of being hurt we dont like Ford. get a modding job elsewhere genius.
My neighbor has a sub-9 69 camaro I've seen at the track.. My other friend has a 98' trans am that lifts the entire front end off the ground and does I believe 9's. Not fast enough for you? Including 10's STOCK capable benz'es I have rode in.
I watch drag racing cars dong 6-7-8's and PRO SERIES drags.
Wheres your car in that bracket?
Last edited by Finite1; Feb 27, 2007 at 10:45 AM.
Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
LOL You think I'm here to make GM owners "give a ****" about Ford? Dude you are a moron. I'm on here because I like GM's.
Dude you are a moron. I'm on here because I like GM's.so instead of talking up your Cobra.
why not tell the guy what he could do to help him beat the shitty Ford.
Originally Posted by Finite1
so instead of talking up your Cobra.
why not tell the guy what he could do to help him beat the shitty Ford.
why not tell the guy what he could do to help him beat the shitty Ford.
And if he wants to beat a shitty Ford he should just go ahead and trade in his car.
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Originally Posted by Finite1
+ my stock 07' maxima has about as much retail value on the street than both your mighty cobras..
keep dumping more money into them.
rofl.
keep dumping more money into them.
rofl.
Can someone here compare the resale value of a Ford Cobra over a current F-body? Hell kid I know of some 1993 Cobras that would bring more money than your rattle box. I dont buy cars for investments. If I did that.. I wouldn't even own a GM.
Yes.. I agree.. f-bodies are definately pieces of ****.
I dont understand why people on this site own them.
it's great that Ford finally found their niche in the FI section of street cars... that's a positive forward step for them. You should be proud.
Yes.. I agree.. f-bodies are definately pieces of ****.
I dont understand why people on this site own them.
it's great that Ford finally found their niche in the FI section of street cars... that's a positive forward step for them. You should be proud.
Last edited by Finite1; Feb 27, 2007 at 11:29 AM.
Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
Please quote where I talked up my Cobra as you put it.
And if he wants to beat a shitty Ford he should just go ahead and trade in his car.
And if he wants to beat a shitty Ford he should just go ahead and trade in his car.
Yeah.. I'd much rather have somthing else for the price of an 03/04 cobra.
and there's plenty of options down that route.
a lots of non-domestic cars that just look better, have better interiors, more options, better reliability, better technology and just offer more than any Ford will.
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Originally Posted by AznMuscle
Well while i was in the city saturday night, i was stoped by a light, and long behold the cobra i was admiring 3 blocks before ended up next to me. We were at the light, just talking about what was done, I'm stock, he had bassani exhaust and KN intake, stock blower. We start staging, light goes green and we go. I hear his blower start whining, but hes tires were also, and he had to let up, allowing me to get about 1.5 lengths on him. I slam second, and all of a sudden I hear his exhaust roar, and the blower scream as he damn near flys past me. I let up at about 4k in second gear, and he had around 6 lengths on me. I knew they were fast, and I knew I was going to lose, but I was still surprised by how his second gear pulled me that bad. I also had 2 alpine type r's in my subthump box, and another person in the car, so that could be why I lost by that much....but a damn fast car regardlesss.
Tony
Good death to the cobra, def badass cars and nothing to be ashamed of. To hang with a BONE STOCK cobra your going to need at least LT's, duals, intake+ported TB, 25% pulley, and some good tires (basically every bolt on). If its modded (CAI, catback, pulley, etc) your going to need a decent sized cam on top of the bolts ons listed if its lightly modded (around 400 rwhp) and if its a 450+ rwhp cobra your going to need a huge cam, heads/cam, FI, or some spray to keep up with/beat it. As for the typical cobra vs ls1 battle that arises from a cobra/ls1 kill story, take it elsewhere as it becomes a huge ricer argument. "Ford needs a blower to hang with F-bodies" , "F-bodies have more displacement", "Give the f-body a blower and see what happens", "Cobra is a pulley swap away from 500 rwhp!" 
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Originally Posted by AznMuscle
lighter pullies (gotta research weather that would be bad with high watt stereo system), and tune.
whats more important? deafening stereo...oooooorrrrr POWER!!!!
should be a no-brainer
haha
WoW I cant believe you two are arguing over something so stupid!
FWIW I would take an 03/04 Cobra over a WS6 any day of the week....but then again I know I can always pick up a cheap T/A or CAMARO for like $5k
FWIW I would take an 03/04 Cobra over a WS6 any day of the week....but then again I know I can always pick up a cheap T/A or CAMARO for like $5k
I agree with you there are tons of cars I would pick over them as well....but between the two it isnt even a choice with me....cobra all the way and I love my WS6
Oh and here are 3 camaros V8 that took me all of 2 mins to find for $6k and under
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1998-...QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NO-RE...QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1998-...QQcmdZViewItem
Now the point is....show me an 03/04 cobra that isnt totaled for under $20k....impossible.
Oh and here are 3 camaros V8 that took me all of 2 mins to find for $6k and under
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1998-...QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NO-RE...QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1998-...QQcmdZViewItem
Now the point is....show me an 03/04 cobra that isnt totaled for under $20k....impossible.
Originally Posted by Finite1
I'd take LOTS OF CARS over ANY ford and ANY GM
5k lol.. must be a v6 with 150k miles.
5k lol.. must be a v6 with 150k miles.
