My trans am vs modded eagle talon?
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In a few weeks I was offered a match, now idk I don't think the person asking knows how fast a trans am is or that is has a same engine as the vettes did but hes running a eagle talon with what seems to be mabye a evo 3 motor its awd turbo im guessing if what hes saying is true which he said was 230-240lbs of torque and around 300hp on that car would probally put it in the 13s my trans am only has a slp airbox with the k&n airfilter its getting tuned next week and im going to the dyno to run it to see the base power. Any thoughts how much of a chance I have? my thoughts if hes telling the truth is that hed pull out faster but id catch up.. what do you guys think?
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Alot depends on whats done to his car, if its AWD then its a TSi which means it will have a 4G63 engine which have ALOT of pontential, with simple bolt ons and fuel with the right tune it can hit 4-500 HP easy. Do you know what kinda turbo hes running? I knew someone with a GSX (same thing) with a evo 16G turbo and bolt ons in the mid 12's....More details on his car would help but I wouldnt take it as an easy win
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All Talon turbos had the same engine, which is basically the same engine that is in the Evo's
All Talon turbos had the same engine, which is basically the same engine that is in the Evo's
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A Talon with a 4g63 motor is a dangerous car. The reason is cause they are dirt cheap and can be modded for little money to a very potent car. I was looking into getting one before I came to my senses and bought an LS1. Most of the owners of those cars don't really know what they are doing though. Ricers. You may want to inquire a little further and see if he got a bigger turbo. But if you don't have any money on it what the hell is wrong with a little race? Just get your launching down and you should do fine. Even if its modded you could still win easily by being a good driver.
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Originally Posted by fccs
8lbs of boost hes running he said
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My friend has an eclipse with a 50 trim on it...It's a fast car but I beat him every time because of traction...If he has a stock turbo you should win unless you are a crappy driver.
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Originally Posted by Starz T/A 17
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All Talon turbos had the same engine, which is basically the same engine that is in the Evo's
All Talon turbos had the same engine, which is basically the same engine that is in the Evo's
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My friend has an eclipse with a 50 trim on it...It's a fast car but I beat him every time because of traction...If he has a stock turbo you should win unless you are a crappy driver.
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8lbs of boost hes running he said
I had a 92 AWD talon but I sold it for something reliable
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its hit and run, my buddys got a evo9 at 308 dyno horse, were basicly even... i run low 13s high 12s and im auto, my buddys basicly stock SS beats me and him, its a drivers race unless hes ***** to the wall right now... just race and find out
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8lbs.... nothign to worry about... although they 2nd gear is pretty strong, but at the end,our cars have pretty good top end as well and our cars will still take them. My cousin has a eclispe and his group of friends have that same car as well, talons/eclipses awd turbo'd....and yea, theyre pretty fast.... but i still smash on them, lol.
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well ive built and daily driven low 11 second dsm's. and quite honestly it doesnt take much.
but than again from a roll it takes alot more power to put the power to the ground through 4 wheels. so id try to get him to go from a roll... and hope he has nothing bigger than a 16g
but than again from a roll it takes alot more power to put the power to the ground through 4 wheels. so id try to get him to go from a roll... and hope he has nothing bigger than a 16g
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This thread is useless without a modlist. 8psi on the 2G's stock T25 is a lot diff then 8 psi on a T3/T4 60 trim. If he as a small 16g or smaller you will be ok. A big 16g car can make around 350awhp or more if setup corrly. With a 19c on 19 psi and pump I would put buslengths on C5's from a roll. It all depends on his setup which is why my first sentence stands.
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Dude my little brother has a fwd Laser turbo (same car as a talon) and he's puttin down around 290 or so and he walks away from me like I'm hitting the brakes...and I DO NOT catch up he just keeps embarrassing me. So no you have no chance man. Sorry
BTW I am stock.
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But like everybody else has said...we need a mod list of what he has. My little bro has a 16g turbo and a lot of bolt ons (upgraded fuel, gm MAF, front mount, clutch, flywheel) and he hasn't even put in the cams yet!
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Dude my little brother has a fwd Laser turbo (same car as a talon) and he's puttin down around 290 or so and he walks away from me like I'm hitting the brakes...and I DO NOT catch up he just keeps embarrassing me. So no you have no chance man. Sorry
BTW I am stock.
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That FWD car doesn't have the same rotating mass and added weight of the AWD DSM's that's why you can't catch him. You're better off racing that car from a dig.
My guess is that if he's fast enough to beat you you he'll be broke down by the end of summer. Fun cars but not very durable once you start adding boost.
+1 on racing from a roll though. Those AWD launches are hard to catch up to.
My guess is that if he's fast enough to beat you you he'll be broke down by the end of summer. Fun cars but not very durable once you start adding boost.
+1 on racing from a roll though. Those AWD launches are hard to catch up to.
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I have a big16G on my eclipse and run 14lbs of boost with a upgraded fuel pump. My camaro couldnt catch it while rollin.... Its real fun to drive. Doesnt have the chunky feeling of the F-bod