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Old 06-25-2007, 07:03 PM
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I have a 98 Z28 with mods in sig (under Z28). I came up to a C5 Z06 yesterday on my ride up to my cabin. Thinking I was just going to get anihilated, I threw a few revs at him, and waited for response. He was a very cool guy, looked over, noded, and it was on.

We finally got through traffic, and took off from about 60. He got the jump on me but I suprisingly kept up with him! We did about 4 runs and I hung right with the front of his door until about 120. At 120 he would start pulling. I'm assuming because of weight and aerodynamic issues in Z28 compared to Z06.

With such few mods I was shocked. Headers should be coming in a couple weeks though.

Should I have kept up that well with such few mods on my part?
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With the mods that you have I would say he should have got you by about 1 1/2 cars from 60-120. Anything can happen though. Maybe you got a strong camaro and his Z06 is dogged out. Sounds like you gave him a run for his money though bro. Nice death. With those headers you'll run even with him.

Just FYI...the C5 Z06 runs low 12s. With DRs many many people have got them into the 11s.
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Yeah we were lucky enough to get a red light one time too. He jumped on me by about 1 1/2 cars from 0-60. I had axle hop like crazy but still... I could tell they've got definite pop from down low in the Vette. I love 2nd-3rd-4th in my car. For some reason it pulls harder than any other Z28/fbody I've driven. Even with more mods. I can't explain it but seatofthepants-o-meter just tells me it's hella strong there.
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Damn you have a T88 supra and a modded ls1?
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Originally Posted by 1BadCivicVtec
Damn you have a T88 supra and a modded ls1?
Yeah, Sup will be done next week. Then she sadly is going up for sale. When it sells I'll have a little money to throw 6-700 rwhp at the Z28.

Then the Z06's wont be such an issue haha
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Originally Posted by MikeD101898
I have a 98 Z28 with mods in sig (under Z28). I came up to a C5 Z06 yesterday on my ride up to my cabin. Thinking I was just going to get anihilated?
Well you should have got raped.

A 98 LS1 with a Lid and Catback would get yanked by a properly driven C5 Z06.

( No pun intended, good runs/death )
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Originally Posted by MikeD101898
Yeah, Sup will be done next week. Then she sadly is going up for sale. When it sells I'll have a little money to throw 6-700 rwhp at the Z28.

Then the Z06's wont be such an issue haha

I like the way you think my friend!

Good runs. I'm pretty sure that all C5Z cars are manuals, so driver error could be a factor. Either way, even though you lost you still held your own.
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Considering we took 4 seperate pulls going from about 60-120, and every time the same result, I figured he couldn't f up every time.

I've walked C5 Vettes before, as well as easily ran away from stock Z28's. So I guess thinking back this does somewhat make sense.

Thanks for all the comments guys
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Originally Posted by MikeD101898
Considering we took 4 seperate pulls going from about 60-120, and every time the same result, I figured he couldn't f up every time.
Well he did. A C5 Z06 would eat an i/e 98 LS1 for lunch, from a dig, roll and topend punch.
I have rode in both, and C5 Z06's can run low 12's with just stickies.
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Originally Posted by burnzilla
Well he did. A C5 Z06 would eat an i/e 98 LS1 for lunch, from a dig, roll and topend punch.
I have rode in both, and C5 Z06's can run low 12's with just stickies.
You know that point, in a race, when both cars are in gear and hammering on it, and neither are pulling away? That's what it was like. We were both completely in gear, and neither was pulling. Therefore driver error doesn't factor in whatsoever.

I didn't get it either... but it happened
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Good run, but from experience we have pulled LS1's including WS6's and SS's pretty good from a roll. Anything can happen on the street though.
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Originally Posted by Quik Z06
Good run, but from experience we have pulled LS1's including WS6's and SS's pretty good from a roll. Anything can happen on the street though.
So have I, and that is true.
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Originally Posted by Quik Z06
Good run, but from experience we have pulled LS1's including WS6's and SS's pretty good from a roll. Anything can happen on the street though.
Change the subject how does you Z06 run compared to your mustang cobra?
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In the OPs defence I pulled a car on a C5Z today from a dig to 90 MPH. That should never happen either but it did.
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Originally Posted by 99FRCTorchRed
Change the subject how does you Z06 run compared to your mustang cobra?
Lol, right now it doesnt look good for the Vette, buslenghts is the only way to describe it
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Well heres my 2 cents....

Their are just some really weird things that go on with GM tolerances in the LSX engines...

You'll get 1 fbody that'll dyno 315 rwhp bone stock and click off 13.0's at 109 mph..Then their will be another one that looks exactly like it/same year and goes to the same dyno facilty and dynos 290 rwhp and clicks off 13.4 at 106 at the same strip with the same 60 ft...

So lets just say that you got lucky and got the 1 out of every 10 that will dyno 315 rwhp bone stock and click off thoe 13.0's at 109 mph ( popular science tested a WS6 bird that was freaky like this...but at the same track at the same day couldnt do better than 13.4 at 106 in a SS camaro) PERFECT EXAMPLE OF GM TOLERANCES FOR THE LSXENGINES..

So you got this freaky 315 rwhp 13.0 at 109 mph stock Fbody. You then add a cold air intake and exhaust and to your amazment go dyno the car and hit 335 rwhp ( and yes that number those apear on 1 out of every 10 intake/exhaust fbodys)

You take er back to the strip and you turn a 12.8 at 111 mph..

So your cruising enjoying your 12 second car when low and behold you see a C5Z06..The same C5Z06 that many spout of 11's bone stock to...

Well in reality 99.9 %of stok C5Z06's dont get anywear near 11's.....90% of them dont even run low 12's bone stock ( 12.0-12.3) Most are in the 12.4-12.7 ange..Still a bit faster than your 12.8..

BUT..Just like some LSx's are freaks some are also under acheivers...This particular C5Z06 you've ran into happens to be a 2001 model. But of course theirs no way for you to tell the differance since theirs hardly any differance between the 2001 and 2002 besides the little 405 badge...Of course you were to busy looking for the rear brake duct to see if it was a Z06 or FRC to look for an 2 inch 405 badging...

All thats in your mine is that C5Z06's run 11's bone stock and that your about to get your *** handed...

But like I said some LSX's are under aceivers..2001 C5 Z06's dyno anywere from 335-350 rwhp. The one youve happenned to run into is an under achiver that dynoed your same 335 rwhp..

Now from a dead stop his 3150 pounds and M12 trannie combinened with his 335 bone stock rwhp would still be good to 0-60 mph in 4.4 seconds..On the other hand your 335 rwhp 3450 pounds and 3.42 gearing would only be good for 0-60 mph in 4.8 seconds...

From a dead stop his superior weight/gearing would let him yank you through the 1/8 mile and then run a 12.6 at 113 vrs your 12.8 at 111 even though you both ave the identical 335 rwhp..

Bt you dont race from a dead stop..You race from a 60 mph roll were the weight/gear differance means very little and rwhp/tourque/aereodynamics will seal the deal..

You both ave 335 rwhp..But the LS1's usually have 10 more torque while the LS6's typially have 5 less torque..

bringing your total SAE power to 335 rwhp/345 rwt vrs the 2001 Z06's 335 rwhp/330 rwt...

From 60-120 mph it's door to door.. TOO YOUR AMAZEMENT neighter giving an inch...Then at 120 mph his .32 drag coeficienct vrs your .37 drag coeficiency shows it's ugly face and he ever so slightly begins to pull on you...

Yougo four times total with the same out come and keep a SEG on your face for the rest of the day
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Originally Posted by 2006vette
With the mods that you have I would say he should have got you by about 1 1/2 cars from 60-120. Anything can happen though. Maybe you got a strong camaro and his Z06 is dogged out. Sounds like you gave him a run for his money though bro. Nice death. With those headers you'll run even with him.

Just FYI...the C5 Z06 runs low 12s. With DRs many many people have got them into the 11s.
The C5 Z06 is capable of low 12s/high 11s but alot of owners average mid 12s based off what I've seen especially the 385 hp version. I know the car is very lethal from a roll. They're have been pullied Cobra's who have struggled with stock Z06's from a roll.
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Originally Posted by 2006vette
With the mods that you have I would say he should have got you by about 1 1/2 cars from 60-120. Anything can happen though. Maybe you got a strong camaro and his Z06 is dogged out. Sounds like you gave him a run for his money though bro. Nice death. With those headers you'll run even with him.

Just FYI...the C5 Z06 runs low 12s. With DRs many many people have got them into the 11s.
Maybe he just playing around..
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Originally Posted by Killemall
Well heres my 2 cents....

Their are just some really weird things that go on with GM tolerances in the LSX engines...

You'll get 1 fbody that'll dyno 315 rwhp bone stock and click off 13.0's at 109 mph..Then their will be another one that looks exactly like it/same year and goes to the same dyno facilty and dynos 290 rwhp and clicks off 13.4 at 106 at the same strip with the same 60 ft...

So lets just say that you got lucky and got the 1 out of every 10 that will dyno 315 rwhp bone stock and click off thoe 13.0's at 109 mph ( popular science tested a WS6 bird that was freaky like this...but at the same track at the same day couldnt do better than 13.4 at 106 in a SS camaro) PERFECT EXAMPLE OF GM TOLERANCES FOR THE LSXENGINES..

So you got this freaky 315 rwhp 13.0 at 109 mph stock Fbody. You then add a cold air intake and exhaust and to your amazment go dyno the car and hit 335 rwhp ( and yes that number those apear on 1 out of every 10 intake/exhaust fbodys)

You take er back to the strip and you turn a 12.8 at 111 mph..

So your cruising enjoying your 12 second car when low and behold you see a C5Z06..The same C5Z06 that many spout of 11's bone stock to...

Well in reality 99.9 %of stok C5Z06's dont get anywear near 11's.....90% of them dont even run low 12's bone stock ( 12.0-12.3) Most are in the 12.4-12.7 ange..Still a bit faster than your 12.8..

BUT..Just like some LSx's are freaks some are also under acheivers...This particular C5Z06 you've ran into happens to be a 2001 model. But of course theirs no way for you to tell the differance since theirs hardly any differance between the 2001 and 2002 besides the little 405 badge...Of course you were to busy looking for the rear brake duct to see if it was a Z06 or FRC to look for an 2 inch 405 badging...

All thats in your mine is that C5Z06's run 11's bone stock and that your about to get your *** handed...

But like I said some LSX's are under aceivers..2001 C5 Z06's dyno anywere from 335-350 rwhp. The one youve happenned to run into is an under achiver that dynoed your same 335 rwhp..

Now from a dead stop his 3150 pounds and M12 trannie combinened with his 335 bone stock rwhp would still be good to 0-60 mph in 4.4 seconds..On the other hand your 335 rwhp 3450 pounds and 3.42 gearing would only be good for 0-60 mph in 4.8 seconds...

From a dead stop his superior weight/gearing would let him yank you through the 1/8 mile and then run a 12.6 at 113 vrs your 12.8 at 111 even though you both ave the identical 335 rwhp..

Bt you dont race from a dead stop..You race from a 60 mph roll were the weight/gear differance means very little and rwhp/tourque/aereodynamics will seal the deal..

You both ave 335 rwhp..But the LS1's usually have 10 more torque while the LS6's typially have 5 less torque..

bringing your total SAE power to 335 rwhp/345 rwt vrs the 2001 Z06's 335 rwhp/330 rwt...

From 60-120 mph it's door to door.. TOO YOUR AMAZEMENT neighter giving an inch...Then at 120 mph his .32 drag coeficienct vrs your .37 drag coeficiency shows it's ugly face and he ever so slightly begins to pull on you...

Yougo four times total with the same out come and keep a SEG on your face for the rest of the day
Holey novel batman. I'm not even mad... that was amazing. (I am kinda pissed that bastard Baxter ate my cheese wheel though)

Very good description.

And btw he did have the 405 badge.
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Originally Posted by MikeD101898
Holey novel batman. I'm not even mad... that was amazing. (I am kinda pissed that bastard Baxter ate my cheese wheel though)

Very good description.

And btw he did have the 405 badge.
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