Ran my first 99-04 GT Mustang...
07-23-2007, 01:33 PM
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Like I said... it doesn't matter what you believe. I didn't say it was common or expected, but it is possible.
http://3.8mustang.com/forum/showthread.php?t=194364
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07-23-2007, 01:45 PM
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I agree its possible. You only need 105-106mph for a 12 sec pass (w/ a decent 60ft of course). A bolt-on GT can get that mph and ET. Only radials? Probably not but DR's? Yes. Remember, its not only about rwhp. Gearing has a big affect on it. -Mark
07-23-2007, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by kyle91z28
Mustang GT's must be a lot faster in other places than around here. I've walked a CAI/Full exhaust/UD pulley/4.10 2003 GT from a 50 roll like he was a complete joke. My car was completely stock, so what's that make me? 13.4 @ 106 maybe?
NO way this guy was even close to 12's. High 13's best, even that seems out of reach for as slow as this car was. I've beaten another GT with atleast exhaust by even more than this guy, so I don't think he had a bad running car.
DRIVE MOD doesn't mean **** from 50mph roll BTW.
Maybe if the car was set-up for drag on slicks MAYBE i would believe it, even then its a bit far-fetched.
NO way this guy was even close to 12's. High 13's best, even that seems out of reach for as slow as this car was. I've beaten another GT with atleast exhaust by even more than this guy, so I don't think he had a bad running car.
DRIVE MOD doesn't mean **** from 50mph roll BTW.
Maybe if the car was set-up for drag on slicks MAYBE i would believe it, even then its a bit far-fetched.
07-23-2007, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 01FormulaTA
well you are close to 270 rwhp so you should be close to 12's huh?? LMAO, next time I am in Dallas we'll meet up and id would like to see you run some 12's in your bolt-on GT 
07-23-2007, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ponygt65
Sounds like someone couldn't drive their GT and is a bit pissy about be a poor driver. 
you have been spending a little too much time on LS1tech.....why dont you go cruise some of the stang forums and see what it really takes for the 2V's to get in the 12's...you could even look at some of the links I posted above and see what it took them to get into the 12's...have you ever even owned a 2V?? or are you just making **** up? I see three 4V 4.6's in your sig and a 289.....you can call me a poor driver all you want but the fact is you have no idea how I drive.....2V 4.6 motors are junk and it takes more money than its worth to get them to go fast NA
07-23-2007, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Well that car has the ability to be solidly in the 13s, so if he's barely beating 15s Accords, that sound like a personal problem to me 
. Most 99-04 5spd GTs put down about 230rwhp stock. But also about 270-280lb/ft of torque, which is not "weak." They might not be (stock vs. stock) in the same league as the LS1, but still not "slow." I enjoy my car (though I'd rather have an LS1), and I think it's pretty pitiful how you can call something a piece of ****, or "slow," just because you happen to be faster. 
. Most 99-04 5spd GTs put down about 230rwhp stock. But also about 270-280lb/ft of torque, which is not "weak." They might not be (stock vs. stock) in the same league as the LS1, but still not "slow." I enjoy my car (though I'd rather have an LS1), and I think it's pretty pitiful how you can call something a piece of ****, or "slow," just because you happen to be faster. 
any moron can do that. and yes 99-04 gts are slow. if you dont like it quite trolling the street racing/kill section here and go troll a mustang forum.
07-23-2007, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 01FormulaTA
no it wont.....Im in Houston, find me one and ill believe it
07-23-2007, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dynotune04
I dont really care where your from. im not claiming the 99-04 gt's to be rocket ships. im just saying bolt ons and 12's in a 2 valve is possible. and im not gonna go looking all over the internet to find one to make you happy or shut you up. i went 13.9 @ 99 with a 2.23 60 ft last year with a cai and a catback. thats non geared with a terrible 60 foot and a lot of bolt ons left to do. and by the way it was with a horrible DA. Ill be back up there next month with full bolt ons, gears, tune and a 100 shot with drag radials and ill be glad to report back my numbers.
sounds good man, make sure you post up the slips with 'em
07-23-2007, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by capn smokey
Well....a stock ls1 does make close to 400hp. The crate engine makes 400 an is practically identical to the one in your car. Nice kill, those things are dawgs, my buddy beats them down all the time in his v6 altima.
i want one of your stock ls1's..
07-23-2007, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Well you're showing me all these high-power Mustangs with shitty drivers... kinda makes it seem that you're implying that they don't have enough power to run 12s. And you never answered my question; Are you saying that the guy that ran a 13.1x with a few bolt-ons and 4.10s won't be able to get into the 12s with more power and drag radials?
ok so after you are done trying to prove 01formula wrong (even though he is showing a number of examples of heavily modified gt's barely breaking into the 12's), why dont you just find us some examples of bolt on (I/H/E), geared GTs that hit 12's. I know that not all of the drivers 01formula mentioned were bad drivers...he is just showing the limitations of the 4.6 2v without big power adders.
07-23-2007, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by delsold
ok so after you are done trying to prove 01formula wrong (even though he is showing a number of examples of heavily modified gt's barely breaking into the 12's), why dont you just find us some examples of bolt on (I/H/E), geared GTs that hit 12's. I know that not all of the drivers 01formula mentioned were bad drivers...he is just showing the limitations of the 4.6 2v without big power adders.
07-23-2007, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by delsold
ok so after you are done trying to prove 01formula wrong (even though he is showing a number of examples of heavily modified gt's barely breaking into the 12's), why dont you just find us some examples of bolt on (I/H/E), geared GTs that hit 12's. I know that not all of the drivers 01formula mentioned were bad drivers...he is just showing the limitations of the 4.6 2v without big power adders.
the man speaks the truth
07-23-2007, 06:39 PM
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And you know this how? I can show you THOUSANDS of people that have a few grand thrown into their LS1s and can't break into the 12s. And then I can show you a select few that have done it either stock, or with only one or two small mods. I've seen quite a few things that people (most of whom aren't exactly experts) have told me are impossible.
07-23-2007, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Did you NOT see the link I posted of the guy with intake/H-pipe/exhaust/gears that did 13.2? And that was with a 2.0 60' time. I'm not saying that 2Vs are the best motors... just that it is possible to get in the 12s with bolt-ons and gears.
Irunhighthirteensongoodday....here is a thread I made for you....http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...d.php?t=407036
so far everyone has mentioned either a power adder or weight reduction w/ weld wheels
07-23-2007, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
And you know this how? I can show you THOUSANDS of people that have a few grand thrown into their LS1s and can't break into the 12s. And then I can show you a select few that have done it either stock, or with only one or two small mods. I've seen quite a few things that people (most of whom aren't exactly experts) have told me are impossible.
bwahahahahahaha thousands? THOUSANDS?? LMAO
I run 12's NA.....mods in sig
07-23-2007, 06:50 PM
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Um... there are even tons of people on this site that have ALOT of stuff done to their cars and aren't in the 12s. For whatever reason. Everytime I go to the dragstrip I see LS1 F-bodies with alot of mods in the 13s, and '03-04 Cobras in the 13s, and turbocharged Hondas that run 13s and trap 115mph. Does that mean they can't go any faster?
07-23-2007, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Um... there are even tons of people on this site that have ALOT of stuff done to their cars and aren't in the 12s. For whatever reason. Everytime I go to the dragstrip I see LS1 F-bodies with alot of mods in the 13s, and '03-04 Cobras in the 13s, and turbocharged Hondas that run 13s and trap 115mph. Does that mean they can't go any faster?
07-23-2007, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Did you NOT see the link I posted of the guy with intake/H-pipe/exhaust/gears that did 13.2? And that was with a 2.0 60' time. I'm not saying that 2Vs are the best motors... just that it is possible to get in the 12s with bolt-ons and gears.
07-23-2007, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by delsold
no i did...that is 1 example...AND ITS NOT IN THE 12'S. Close..but no cigar. Now 01formula...he showed several examples. You..you come up with 1, and its a low 13. And i can tell you right now...there are HUNDREDS of true "bolt on" ls1 powered cars on this website that run 12's. Im not talking 13.0001. Im talking 12.xx. Yes, there are some members here that may not be the best driver, or may not run at a greatly prepped track, but there are average, and good drivers on this website with stock ls1's running bolt on gt times, and bolt on ls1 running true 12 second passes.