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Old 11-21-2007, 01:34 PM
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Road doesnt look too dusty to me. I dunno if id be launching on slicks with a stock rear.

Provided your suspension isnt stock and you have a rear get some qa1s and drag springs. If you have stock gears, 28" tires wont do you any good.

Suspension is more key then tires.

and no, youre not gonna fit bigger then an 11.5. I have 28X11.5s and I haad to bang the inner fender well, take out the bump stops, and grind my calipers for the 15 inch rims.
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I meant to fit tires so that they are NOT inside the wings, but stick out the wings couple of inches. If you look at my picture, there are some 4 inches between the top of the 25.6" tire and fender.

BTW, looking at specs, Hoosier 28x14.5 have SAME section width as MT Drags 28x11.5, but 1" more tread width. I think lot of people have MTs of this size??
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Originally Posted by Vetal
I meant to fit tires so that they are NOT inside the wings, but stick out the wings couple of inches. If you look at my picture, there are some 4 inches between the top of the 25.6" tire and fender.

BTW, looking at specs, Hoosier 28x14.5 have SAME section width as MT Drags 28x11.5, but 1" more tread width. I think lot of people have MTs of this size??
I believe you can fit up to a 29 or 30" tall tire under the stock fenderwell. But I dont think you're gonna fit more then an 11.5 tread width in there.

Et streets 28" 11.5 are a 9.5 tread width I believe.

Hoosier QTP 28" 11.5 have an 11.5 inch tread I believe also.

I had both on my car, and no bigger then then hoosier was gonna fit. I had to adjust the PHA perfectly for them to fit without rubbing. This was with a 7.5 back spacing. I dunno if you roll the fenders and run a smaller backspacing maybe you can fit wider tires, but it wont look right imo.

Might wanna post this question in the wheels and tires section and see what you get cause im not positive on anything.
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I spin threw first in my car on the street with kumho ecsta MX, so im thinking about trying Nt555r's, but at the track i hook fine with the kumho's.
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I can dump the clutch at 3500rpm on et streets 28x11.5's on the street and I dont really slip at all. I can launch right next to the 500 awhp EVO's.

its all in the suspension I think.
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Originally Posted by jermzz
I can dump the clutch at 3500rpm on et streets 28x11.5's on the street and I dont really slip at all. I can launch right next to the 500 awhp EVO's.

its all in the suspension I think.
you know alot of 500 awhp evo's ? Its not a very common thing unless your town has evo's all rolling around with gt35r's

Alot of it with a awd car is more in the tires, then suspesion. Stock evo's can cut 1.5 60ft's, just take a good driver......... I'm sure RWD car's rely on alot more then just tires though.

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Originally Posted by EvolutionCT9A
you know alot of 500 awhp evo's ? Its not a very common thing unless your town has evo's all rolling around with gt35r's

Alot of it with a awd car is more in the tires, then suspesion. Stock evo's can cut 1.5 60ft's, just take a good driver......... I'm sure RWD car's rely on alot more then just tires though.
Yes, sir. And this isnt the only one I know of around here.

GT35r evo 480awhp SAE corrected on a mustang dyno vs 550rwhp 427 ls6 camaro.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/6...ae0088b47c.htm

I had a horrible reaction time, but yeah, I was right next to him out of the hole. he's run a best of 11.0 @ 127 I belive.

I really dunno what suspension work he has done if any, but he has drag radials all the way around. Correct though, for a rwd car, suspension has a lot more play then tire.
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jermzz, I posted my suspension setup on the first page. Other members said it is good. What's your opinion on this?
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Originally Posted by Vetal
jermzz, I posted my suspension setup on the first page. Other members said it is good. What's your opinion on this?
everything looks ok for the most part except your shock / spring setup. Thats huge. Your shocks are not made for drag racing at all.

Ditch those, get some hal qa1's all the way a round with 275 front springs and put stockers in the back. Also might wanna pick up a drag bar.

The qa1 setup will allow you to adjust the shock pressure at all four corners and give you ultimate weight transfer which is tractions best friend. For refrence if you decide to go that route i'll tell you what I set mine to for drag.

Front driver 1 click.
Front passenger 1 click.

Rear passenger 6 clicks.
Rear driver 5 clicks.

The front will be so squishy you'll be able to push the car to the ground with one hand. This is good.

Once you have the suspension dialed in, throw those 10.5 x 16 Et streets back on your car. Drop those bitches to 11 psi (cold pressure. once you do a burnout you'll get 2 or 3 psi). Get some of that loved VHT trackbite everyones talking about. That stuff is awesome.

Here's what I do with it.

Get lined up. Pour a little puddle behind each tire. Roll back into it. Do a healthy 10 second breakstand on top of it. After your burnout make sure you let off the break and burnout about ten feet forward. Have a friend roll you back to the same spot you started. Do another small burnout but this time dont roll forward (this is to clean the debris off your tires from rolling last time)

At this point your tires should be hot and sticky as all hell (and clean!). I'd guess from your power level you should easily be able to drop at 3000 - 3500 rpm and stick like a mother.

Thats about the best I can help you. I guarantee you'll launch out hard if you do what I told you.

This is kinda a bad example cause I was practicing on bald slicks, but you get the idea of how hard you can launch. And I have 200 more horse.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iRY7Hh1-2K0

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Originally Posted by jermzz
Yes, sir. And this isnt the only one I know of around here.

GT35r evo 480awhp SAE corrected on a mustang dyno vs 550rwhp 427 ls6 camaro.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/6...ae0088b47c.htm

I had a horrible reaction time, but yeah, I was right next to him out of the hole. he's run a best of 11.0 @ 127 I belive.

I really dunno what suspension work he has done if any, but he has drag radials all the way around. Correct though, for a rwd car, suspension has a lot more play then tire.
480's a bit low even for corrected on a gt35 maybe it was a gt30, 35r's normally put down low 10's with a good driver. but hey Driver mod F.T.W doesnt matter how much money you put into any car.


And in the other peoples posting it says he traped 120 he def doesnt have a gt35 or a gt30 if he traped 120 maybe a 50trim or FP green. if he does he is a shitty driver lol
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Originally Posted by EvolutionCT9A
480's a bit low even for corrected on a gt35 maybe it was a gt30, 35r's normally put down low 10's with a good driver. but hey Driver mod F.T.W doesnt matter how much money you put into any car.


And in the other peoples posting it says he traped 120 he def doesnt have a gt35 or a gt30 if he traped 120 maybe a 50trim or FP green. if he does he is a shitty driver lol
He has the boost down cause he's on a stock block. Thats all I know. But it's a gt35 for sure.

Also, dont listen to other people's posting. Listen to mine.
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Vetal, have you tried out what jermzz told you to do? I would follow what he says, thats about the best advice in here
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I haven't, it's still winter in here

Guys, would really big tires (like 28x13.5" 15 ET Streets) be better than my 26x10.5-16 on unprepped slickery tracks? I guess they would have to be better hooking?
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Originally Posted by jermzz
I believe you can fit up to a 29 or 30" tall tire under the stock fenderwell. But I dont think you're gonna fit more then an 11.5 tread width in there.

Et streets 28" 11.5 are a 9.5 tread width I believe.

Hoosier QTP 28" 11.5 have an 11.5 inch tread I believe also.

I had both on my car, and no bigger then then hoosier was gonna fit. I had to adjust the PHA perfectly for them to fit without rubbing. This was with a 7.5 back spacing. I dunno if you roll the fenders and run a smaller backspacing maybe you can fit wider tires, but it wont look right imo.

Might wanna post this question in the wheels and tires section and see what you get cause im not positive on anything.
ya listen to this guy and ge the hoosiers, also do stuff like relocating the battery to the back that is 25lbs off the front and another 25 to the rear.
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Originally Posted by Vetal
We in Latvia don't have special drag tracks, so events are made on public roads. Bought Trans Am this summer hoping to get some good results, but nothing - I can't put power to the ground on our dusty roads. Subarus are jumping few car lengths from the starts and that's all - can't catch them.
Car is manual, ~340whp. So far I have tried BFGoodrich GForce Drag Radials 315/45-R17, and MT ET Streets 10.5/26-R16. Both spin badly in 1st.
Please advise, how do I get this car to hook. I really like the Trans Am and don't want to buy some Subaru or DSM, but something has to be done.
What could I do to hook really good?
Thanx guys Hopefully you will help me to make my TA show everything it can and get the recognition this beautiful V8 deserves
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I dont know, dust dirt and sand your fucked.....


Bring VHT with you and do john force burnouts on a slick, its going to be very hard to hook up a rwd car on the roads your talking about
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Originally Posted by Vetal
BTW, broom and VHT will give advantage also to other RWD, but my main aim is to gain advantage for MY CAR
Uh no sweep ur lane and that other guy can get his own vht and his own fucken broom...
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Bribe the local street sweeper to make a pass in front of you. Seriously.
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I might relocate battery to the trunk... Did anyone record any gains from this?
slick1851, I have the same turbo as you do
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You must be launching it really high and dumping the clutch.. Try slipping it just a bit. I can hook my car on Nittos on 40psi without warming up the tires.

You are on MT's.... they should hook amazingly.
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I never dump clutch on launch, on "street" surface it just makes you sitting and spinning


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