2001 Z06 vs. 2008 Charger SRT-8
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Diablo now has a programmer for them. Average track time in AZ was around 13.1 in 1/4 now with the programmer we have seen 12.7 to 12.8 on average. There still is alot of room for improvment but the computer on these cars is smart! Tough one to crack but i am sure it will be done!
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Im surprised it took them so long to unlock the damn computer. I mean wtf? Windows gets hacked the first day is released, and no one could hack these damn computers? wtf?
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I wish those numbers were accurate. Not true for our cars at all. We do see some good gains with simple mods, just not that good. As for a tuner, there is finally one out there for us. The Diablo Predator/ CMR tune. Finally us heavily modded guys can unleash the real power. Also, keep in mind that our cars are a bunch of FAT A$$ES, coming in at around 4200 lbs.
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nope, computer is tough. Superchips got a few of them cracked. But took them a couple of years to do it. The computer re-writes data back. So when you change it, after running a little bit, it adjusts back for the adjustments. It's crazy man. I use to own an "03 hemi truck. Strangest computer I ever seen. Put an intake on the truck and exhaust. At first it seemed quick. After a few days, the computer would adjust the fuel for the extra air. Crazy crap I tell ya. Like I said, it took superchips two years to figure it out. How to keep it from re-writing.
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Diablo now has a programmer for them. Average track time in AZ was around 13.1 in 1/4 now with the programmer we have seen 12.7 to 12.8 on average. There still is alot of room for improvment but the computer on these cars is smart! Tough one to crack but i am sure it will be done!
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San DiegoSRT is right, Diablo HAS unlocked these cars. It is working great on mostly stock cars and even better on modded h/c cars. And fatass is an understatement, lol. I put mine on the scales and it weighed in at 4555lbs. I did have some fold out chairs and a couple jackets in the trunk though.
Great run ls1aholic, i wouldn't rule out the SRT because of tuning. Like stated above Diablo has a great handheld/custom tune software out and SCT is suppose to be stepping up to the table soon also!
Great run ls1aholic, i wouldn't rule out the SRT because of tuning. Like stated above Diablo has a great handheld/custom tune software out and SCT is suppose to be stepping up to the table soon also!
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yes the tuner is out but 8 cars have blown up due to over doing the adjustments with the Diablo! Great cars i loved my SRT8 300C! I go to the track with the LX group all the time!
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The guys who were blowing engines were those that turned their knock sensors off. That option has since been removed from the Predator. As long as you play it safe with your tune and your tuner, you'll be fine.
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nope, computer is tough. Superchips got a few of them cracked. But took them a couple of years to do it. The computer re-writes data back. So when you change it, after running a little bit, it adjusts back for the adjustments. It's crazy man. I use to own an "03 hemi truck. Strangest computer I ever seen. Put an intake on the truck and exhaust. At first it seemed quick. After a few days, the computer would adjust the fuel for the extra air. Crazy crap I tell ya. Like I said, it took superchips two years to figure it out. How to keep it from re-writing.
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Hptuners working with superchips will see a true tuner released soon. They released their ford module finally last month. The dodge should get released soon.
Diablo, superchips and hypertech are primative products compared to the hptuners product.
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^^ I believe its more of a marketing gimmick, they pretty much control the aftermarket tuning for new cars... i guarantee if a good programmer took a look at it they'd have it done in less than week, hence windows getting hacked in less than a week and windows has MUCH more programming than a car ECM has. No I'm not a programmer.
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I raced a full bolt-on SRT-8 charger, black w/ chrome rims, the thing looked mobster-ish and sounded like a beast. We went from a 40 roll and I absolutely murdered this dude, by the time I shut down at 125mph I had 6-7 cars on this dude, but in his defense I think that was bad speed to start from in his auto vs my 4.10 geared 6 speed.
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^^ I believe its more of a marketing gimmick, they pretty much control the aftermarket tuning for new cars... i guarantee if a good programmer took a look at it they'd have it done in less than week, hence windows getting hacked in less than a week and windows has MUCH more programming than a car ECM has. No I'm not a programmer.
A perfect example was kennebell. That's a top notch company for tuning on superchargers. They had a problem with the 2003 computers. It's still not resolved and they pretty much given up. The 2004 and up have a new computer and have been easier to resolve.
But its still boils down to the manufacturer giving out code or allowing the code to even be read. Like I said, they have the capability to lock it without editing. We have that ability with efilive and hptuners as I said before.
All the big programmers have loads of resources available. Why would they hold out for marketing though? Seriously, those chrysler pcms are a problem and I'm quite sure chrysler's doing it for a reason. To deny any aftermarket but their own.
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Yes I agree with you, I guess you would need to be on the inside for HPtuners and/or chrysler to really know. But I'm still sure if a good programmer/hacker out there got a hold of an ECM and would read it they could probably crack it no problem.
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San DiegoSRT is right, Diablo HAS unlocked these cars. It is working great on mostly stock cars and even better on modded h/c cars. And fatass is an understatement, lol. I put mine on the scales and it weighed in at 4555lbs. I did have some fold out chairs and a couple jackets in the trunk though.
Extreme - was your *** in the car too? My fully optioned Charger weighed 4200lbs with a full tank of gas. I've yet to see proof the 300Cs are 100lbs lighter.
You sure you didn't have some lazy-boy recliners?
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Supertuners has been out; this isn't anything new. diablo came out second, rofl! And they work for what they are yes.
But I will say it again, They are primative to the real tuners. There isn't any comparison.
Hptuners will be done soon I hope for dodge, than there will be even more found on those hemis.