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Old 11-20-2007, 02:14 PM
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Default Street racing with a big turbo.

So i've never owned a turbo car and i'm seriously considering building a big cubed turbo motor for my car. Like an lsx 440 with a t88.

Just wondering how many of you guys get out there with big power turbo cars get them to stick. Track prep can be good and obviously cars even with 900+ rw can hook. But the street is a whole different game. And yes. On the freeway I know you can make it hook. Im sure I could get up to 1500 to hook from a 50+ roll. Talking about from a dig here.

Everyone says to stay away from turbos for the street.

Should I build big cubes (tall deck) + juice, or stick to my guns for wanting a big friggin turbo pushing 1000+ rw on a slightly smaller but still rather large cubed motor?

And please. If you want to flame me for street racing or anything else, send me a pm. Cause you're not going to change my mind. I'd rather you not infect this thread and get it off topic.

Thanks!!

EDIT. I thought about putting this in the FI section. But most of the people there dont street race. Just wanted to cover that before someone mentioned it.

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Old 11-20-2007, 02:45 PM
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I couldnt give you a good answer how to hook on the street with 900+rwhp because from experience, its very very difficult, lol. But then again Ive never ran slicks on the street before...

All I know is when I want I can lose the back end at WOT at 120mph with my 315 bfg drag radials... this is with a 6 speed too.

Freeway runs are definately fun though
Old 11-20-2007, 02:49 PM
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Big cubes + Juice for the street IMO
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Um bring VHT and a slick
Old 11-20-2007, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
Big cubes + Juice for the street IMO
I think juice is better for the track, Street runs that start from a roll would benefit the turbo'd car.
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Sounds like way too much for the street. Depends what you want to do. If you just want it to have it, go for it. If you actually want to be competative, that much hp and cubes sounds like its going to have some major traction problems. The only way you'd have half a chance is to run around the street on slicks and skinnies, but I wouldn't do it. Even then, streets aren't prepped for that kind of traction. In my opinion, the ultimate steet setup for being the fastest is a sick n/a big cube setup, with some spray.
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Originally Posted by BlackMagicC5
Sounds like way too much for the street. Depends what you want to do. If you just want it to have it, go for it. If you actually want to be competative, that much hp and cubes sounds like its going to have some major traction problems. The only way you'd have half a chance is to run around the street on slicks and skinnies, but I wouldn't do it. Even then, streets aren't prepped for that kind of traction. In my opinion, the ultimate steet setup for being the fastest is a sick n/a big cube setup, with some spray.
I run around on the street with slicks and skinnies already. Well I did with the 427. I barely drive the car. Maybe 7k miles a year. I can get the car to hook with 550 rw on VHT on the street with 28x11.5's. but were talking twice the power here, literally. Either way. If I run a big cube i'll be pushing 650 - 700 on motor + a 250 - 300 shot progressed.
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Originally Posted by 2K1WS6TA
I think juice is better for the track, Street runs that start from a roll would benefit the turbo'd car.
But if the car doesnt stick from a stand still, what good is it really if you think about it?

I need to be able to do both. I like the turbo idea cause on the street it has better mannors, better gas mileage and if i ever got a stick up my *** I could REALLY turn up the boost. Pluss I can up and down the boost to what I want. I think its all the damn toque a turbo car gives you that just totally blows the tires up everywhere on the street, no?
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You want sick torque? Dual charge it... D1SC and a big turbo....
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if you want a car that is going to be streetable still, i would go with like a 300-350cubic inch area or what ever GM offers in that area and then turbo it. your still going to be able to make crazy power, plus the bottle runs out, boost is always there. then focus on other aspects like suspension tuning to help get the power down. after that, you'll be taking peoples lunch money all the time, lol.
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Originally Posted by twizted_creations
You want sick torque? Dual charge it... D1SC and a big turbo....
Yeaaah. I dont really have loot for two FI options.... Exspeially those two.
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I'd say buge cube + n2o for the street. All the faster cars down here keep to that combo, because it plain works. (and i am talking low 9sec- mid 8 sec full HUGE slick cars)
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I say Build 454ci LSX 600rwhp+ and then SPray 400shot on top of that and you'll be close to 1000rwho for sure and you can get alot of races too.

with 600rwhp+ you'll find alot of cars on the street with similers HP and at the track you can run low 10s maybe high 9s N/A with nitrous that thing will be close to 8s even with
Manual trans.
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Originally Posted by djsanchez2
I'd say buge cube + n2o for the street. All the faster cars down here keep to that combo, because it plain works. (and i am talking low 9sec- mid 8 sec full HUGE slick cars)
Thats what im leaning toward. Iwanted opinions on the turbo though. theyre bad ***, ya know?
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Originally Posted by venom ws7
I say Build 454ci LSX 600rwhp+ and then SPray 400shot on top of that and you'll be close to 1000rwho for sure and you can get alot of races too.

with 600rwhp+ you'll find alot of cars on the street with similers HP and at the track you can run low 10s maybe high 9s N/A with nitrous that thing will be close to 8s even with
Manual trans.

If i do an all motor setup + juice i'll be going quite a bit bigger then 454. And I dont wanna shoot bigger then a 300.

Ill still make the 1k mark with big cubes and juice, but like I said. I want more input on the turbo idea.

Im already all motor king
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There are a few big cube turbo cars i seen in that big race that happened a couple months ago. I believe there were people who came outta state for that one. The one i remember was a yellow stang, I believe it was turbo'd
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I'd rock an 88mm or larger turbo. Then, with the lag it should have, you won't have a massive amount of torque right when you stomp it, so that should "help" a little with traction problems. With enough money spent on fuel system and in the turbo setup, you can make 1200hp+ with just a 370. You are still going to need a killer suspension setup to put most of that to the ground along with a lot of rubber.
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Originally Posted by 2K1WS6TA
I'd rock an 88mm or larger turbo. Then, with the lag it should have, you won't have a massive amount of torque right when you stomp it, so that should "help" a little with traction problems. With enough money spent on fuel system and in the turbo setup, you can make 1200hp+ with just a 370. You are still going to need a killer suspension setup to put most of that to the ground along with a lot of rubber.
Ill be going lsx either direction.

Whats the big issue making turbo cars hook? just the low speed torque you get? Its gonna leave softer then a all motor car from a dig cause of lag, but I guess as soon as the power kicks in a 3500 or so is when it's gonna spin. I need to know more people with turbo cars I can ride in lol
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Originally Posted by 2K1WS6TA
I'd rock an 88mm or larger turbo. Then, with the lag it should have, you won't have a massive amount of torque right when you stomp it, so that should "help" a little with traction problems.
That sounds like something a supra owner would want.
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I HAV TT SUPRA WITH BIG SINGLE AND IT FAST. I STREET RACE IT FAST. TOUCHDOWn



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