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Old 12-13-2007, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 1bad06
Maybe 5 year old 600cc. I will bet money you wouldnt have chance with newer 600 with 500hp. from a roll.
and to be exact so there is no bs i was runnin 11 psi so about 520whp 545wtq when we raced
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Originally Posted by Mach1Mustang
no i have 3.55 gears. The reason i say that is unlike a root style sc, the centr. sc makes its tq on the top end. From a dig i think i will lose to a bike. Up top is where i pull hard. I dont deny that the rider may have had a lot to do with my wins. But i sill won. Esp. raving the busa.
Before going turbo when I was 166rwhp, I guess the ~750rwhp Mach 1 I raced and beat by a car length was a fluke. Well now that I think about it, his buddy in a chase 05 stang gt said I lost lol.
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Originally Posted by brian06eleanor
really, bring you money on. its a good friend of mines 600rr its a 06 bone stock he weighs about 185 and we alot of diff rolls i beat him from 50 and 60 but i couldnt pull him from a 40. ill get him to do it again and take a vid if youll send money via paypal lol
If you are realy serious I m game. I m a truck driver and go to GA a lot. I will u put the bike on the truck and bring it with me and I will run you from any roll you want. I m racing not your budy.
Let me know how much we are talking about.
I weight about 150.

Since I have 1000 I will have to get a bike from a friend he has 07 GSXR 600
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i have a H/C bolton stalled auto ls1 and i have no problem hanging with NEW 600's from a 50 roll granted i dont spin.more tweaking and ill be beating them. have raced 4 diff. bikes and have beat 1, tied with 1(with 3 people in the car) lost by 2 cars to the other(spun my *** off at 50) the other one i was stock and got smoked.
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Originally Posted by 1bad06
If you are realy serious I m game. I m a truck driver and go to GA a lot. I will u put the bike on the truck and bring it with me and I will run you from any roll you want. I m racing not your budy.
Let me know how much we are talking about.
I weight about 150.

Since I have 1000 I will have to get a bike from a friend he has 07 GSXR 600
ya im completly game, if your a better rider and your weight is 150 you may beat me but im not one of those guys who crys about losing. if you actually take the time to load up a bike and come through somewhere around here ill run you for $100 or $150. or if you want bring it and your 1000 and you can run one of my buddies camaros while your down here on it, he ate my 750 up like it was a scooter lol
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sorry for posting, i guess i was wrong.
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Originally Posted by Mach1Mustang
sorry for posting, i guess i was wrong.
Its ok... you mustang guys always are anyhow...
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All i have to say is the new 600 are fast i would not talk down on them at all. My buddy has a 07 gsxr 600 with a twobrother pipe and it scoots he is a good rider and it is a 10 sec bike with him on it. My r1 runs pretty good to but but with more power it better.
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Originally Posted by LS1Z28-00
i have a H/C bolton stalled auto ls1 and i have no problem hanging with NEW 600's from a 50 roll granted i dont spin.more tweaking and ill be beating them. have raced 4 diff. bikes and have beat 1, tied with 1(with 3 people in the car) lost by 2 cars to the other(spun my *** off at 50) the other one i was stock and got smoked.


im the bike that he lost by 2 to... haha lil bitch.. he did spin severly bad even thugh we were at 50... ls6 intake goes on tomorrow and we will be racing again.. i think i might get beat by a length or so this time.. his z is setup for digs though not rolls..

02 f4i two bros... driver mod..

bike he tied with was a 04 f4i... stock i think... with me and my gf in the car.. we woulda beat him but the guy wouldnt finish it.. kept stopping at 110 cause of the fog...whatever..


all in all his Z still sound like a POS... o and thomas... betty caan beat you in her >>>>06<<<<< ford focus... LMFAO!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Mach1Mustang
i beat a new gsxr 600 by about 6 to 7 cars from a 70 roll.
The busa and gsxr 1000 that were with him i raced next. I beat the busa by a fender and the 1000 could not pull me. My car is supercharged and is geared for topend. The supercharger makes max hp and tq up top.

600s powerbands are 50-110... 1000s dont start walking till 4th gear about 125.. not too much of a difference.. just to let ya know.. good riders have EVERYTHING to do with it..
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People underestimate new 600's alot. Most people will only race from 40-140 tops, and if a 600 gets a good jump your going to need decent power to catch it by the time the race is over. As for liter bikes its a whole new ballgame especially the newer ones. If my FRC wasnt making the power it makes I wouldnt even bother. From my experience against 2 07's (600 and 1000) you better have power and you better not spin.
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if cars spin.. its done pretty much.. you better be packing a lot to play catch up... but as far as racing 600 vs 1000... >>>>IF<<<< you have a good rider.. 600 is just as fast.. (lighter) friend that has an r1 doesnt start pulling me until 125.. which if you look at trap times almost all bikes are around 10-11 seconds.. but 600s are finishing around 120ish and 1000s around 135ish.. so till about 100 it doesnt matter what your racing.. just depends on how good the rider is... i hate when people think (especially on this site) they cant beat bikes because... its a "bike" haha.. they should race one and find out.. any 400 rwhp caar and up will give a bike a run depending on experience of the rider..
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Originally Posted by Quik Z06
People underestimate new 600's alot. Most people will only race from 40-140 tops, and if a 600 gets a good jump your going to need decent power to catch it by the time the race is over. As for liter bikes its a whole new ballgame especially the newer ones. If my FRC wasnt making the power it makes I wouldnt even bother. From my experience against 2 07's (600 and 1000) you better have power and you better not spin.

that 929 would be a good race for the frc.. although im sure the frc would walk away a bit.. bit still interesting.. have you raced either of you bikes with your car(this being that you have a VERY trustworthy friend that can drive/ride powerful things) haha
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Originally Posted by lemons12
if cars spin.. its done pretty much.. you better be packing a lot to play catch up... but as far as racing 600 vs 1000... >>>>IF<<<< you have a good rider.. 600 is just as fast.. (lighter) friend that has an r1 doesnt start pulling me until 125.. which if you look at trap times almost all bikes are around 10-11 seconds.. but 600s are finishing around 120ish and 1000s around 135ish.. so till about 100 it doesnt matter what your racing.. just depends on how good the rider is... i hate when people think (especially on this site) they cant beat bikes because... its a "bike" haha.. they should race one and find out.. any 400 rwhp caar and up will give a bike a run depending on experience of the rider..
i about fell over laughing when i read this. so im guessing you have not ridden a 600 and a 1000
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im not really sure you were paying attention... >>>>IF<<<< you have a good rider.. 600 is just as fast.. im right there with 1000s until 130 or so.. then they start walking.. after that its no comparison.. before that.. it depends on the rider...

look up slips on the net... they are all right around 10-11 seconds.. some 600RRs tie with some 1000s in time... but trap speed is around 15-20 miles per hour faster on 1000s..

in turns... no comparison.. 600s walk all over 1000s.. that should be a fact its so true...

and do you ride??? if you did you would know that 600s CAN be just as fast DEPENDING on who is riding.. and yes i have drove a 954 an r1 and a 1000rr
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and if you looked at my other posts you would see that i said i was one of the bikes that ls1z28-00 raced.. o and the only one that beat him after h/c... the bike he tied with was a 1000.. and the bike he got beat by was a 600rr when he was almost bone stock and the other bike he slaughtered was an old katana when we was stock.. made the bike look like it was sitting still..the last was an 04 f4i and he had me and my gf in the car and lost by about 2.. maybe less... so yea.. depends on rider UNDER 130 mph.. after that... 1000s dominate..
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then theres alotta shitty riders. we all went to the 1/8 mile track weekend before last. n i rode my bike a k6 750 and my friends 06 600rr and my other friends 06 busa all stock except i have a couple things. n yes 600s can be as fast with a great rider and a shitty rider on a 1000 but im talking about bikes potential with evenly matched riders in this case i ran all 3 so i know they were even. the 600rr trapped 9mph less than my 750 in the 1/8 and the busa trapped 2 mph faster than my 750. so no there not even till 130 unless the rider on the liter bike is fat as hell or just sucks at riding

as for 600s being faster in the twistys, yes alotta time they are because most people can not control and use the power of a 1000. but the guys i ride with have been riding liter bikes for a long time. and i hafta almost kill myself on my 750 to keep up. so unless its a highly modded 600 or a semi prio rider there gonna have a very hard time keeping up with us on our local mtns
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Well as far as my 929 vs my FRC, yeah I think it would be a good race until up top. Ive raced a 07 GSXR 1K and held him off from 40-140 then he put like 2 cars on me, then I started to reel him back in before we had to let off, but at that point he was almost topped out The 07 R6 I raced, I pulled instantly and just pulled away. Ive raced a F4i before and I dont know how they compare to other bikes, but I pulled that guy hard.

Btw, if I was to race my wife would race me on the 929 (it's her bike) she's pretty good too. We've raced a few times on our bikes and my R1 pulls away pretty good.

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haha i just noticed this thread, thanks for gaying up this thread evan. yea the only bike ive beat was when i was stock and it was a shitty katana(slow as ****). the best ive done since H/C was tie with a stock f4i(with 3 ppl in car) the other was lemons12 on his cbr f4i which has a two brothers exhaust, and i lost by about 2 cars and was slowly starting to reel at 120(powerband) then shut down, i spun bad being it was cold out(once i hooked i stoped the pulling) so i think if no people are in my car, i dont spin then i will be even with any 600. now since im adding ls6 intake tomm. i should have the advantage. if that doesnt do the trick im getting jasons slicks and getting a dyno tune then master stevens im calling out your other 600 buddies for $. and well do it from a dig
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Originally Posted by Quik Z06
Well as far as my 929 vs my FRC, yeah I think it would be a good race until up top. Ive raced a 07 GSXR 1K and held him off from 40-140 then he put like 2 cars on me, then I started to reel him back in before we had to let off, but at that point he was almost topped out The 07 R6 I raced, I pulled instantly and just pulled away. Ive raced a F4i before and I dont know how they compare to other bikes, but I pulled that guy hard.

Btw, if I was to race my wife would race me on the 929 (it's her bike) she's pretty good too. We've raced a few times on our bikes and my R1 pulls away pretty good.
sound like fun runs. id say a good rider on a 1000 should beat you because i dont think at your pwr level you will trap over 140. but thats a very stout car. a f4i is about the middle point between a katana 600 and a reg 600(gsxr cbr etc) you would prob be a great race with a bolt on 750. i raced a h/c/n20vette a few weeks ago on my bike that was makin mid 550ish rwhp and 600ish rwtq and i pulled him about 5 cars from 40-115



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