98 TA vs Cobalt SS Stage 2
12-25-2007, 10:50 PM
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12-25-2007, 10:56 PM
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we know that....closest track is at least an hour each way and you only get 1-2 runs at it. we have been there and done that before we got cameras to record with. we got 7 runs including cool downs and were gone in less than 2 hours on the street which is why we chose it.
12-26-2007, 07:20 AM
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Have you been to the track since you got your 20s? You might be surprised how much they hurt performance. Seen a couple guys loose like 3-4 tenths with the same diameter.
12-26-2007, 07:34 AM
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Auto focus killed you, turn it off next time and tell the camera guy not to zoom in and out so much. Just a thought.
12-26-2007, 07:45 AM
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no offense man but IF ALL you have sone is a stage 2 which is 245flywheel hp theres no way in hell you ran a 11.06. and a 8.60 1/8 mile will not translate into a 11.06 unless you sprayed like a 200 shot from the 1/8 mile on lol
12-26-2007, 08:22 AM
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stage 2, exhaust, intake, ingalls torque dampner and few degrees of timing. thats it. read a little deeper i said it was a 1000 foot track. go ahead and tell me to go to "a real" track. ive heard it plenty i just dont have the time or money to waste driving to memphis for a 1/4 track
12-26-2007, 09:35 AM
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stage 2, exhaust, intake, ingalls torque dampner and few degrees of timing. thats it. read a little deeper i said it was a 1000 foot track. go ahead and tell me to go to "a real" track. ive heard it plenty i just dont have the time or money to waste driving to memphis for a 1/4 track
you asked for it...
12-26-2007, 09:48 AM
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As said above in start of thread. Only mod I have is a 3.42 and tune to fix speedo. Otherwise I am another bone stock f-body. I also have 20's on the car so it would have been a lot worse for him if I would have had the stock 16's on where I could heat them up without the car wanting to go sideways.
.Go back to 16's or sell the 16's for 17's and some sticky tires20'S are ridicules on a f body way to big ,way to heavy.
Most 20's weight about 50 pounds thats without tires.
If you start modding your gains and money you send will be pointless with 20's
My 2 cents
12-26-2007, 09:54 AM
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20'S?????? .Go back to 16's or sell the 16's for 17's and some sticky tires
20'S are ridicules on a f body way to big ,way to heavy.
Most 20's weight about 50 pounds thats without tires.
If you start modding your gains and money you send will be pointless with 20's
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.Go back to 16's or sell the 16's for 17's and some sticky tires20'S are ridicules on a f body way to big ,way to heavy.
Most 20's weight about 50 pounds thats without tires.
If you start modding your gains and money you send will be pointless with 20's
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12-26-2007, 10:05 AM
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People feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but it's not all about the added weight with the larger tires, it has something to do with the physics of a larger tire that comes into play.
Either way, I've never seen 20's on an f-body look good. Who knows, maybe yours will be the first.
Either way, I've never seen 20's on an f-body look good. Who knows, maybe yours will be the first.
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I already weighed the 16's with tires and the 20's with tires. The 20's added 20 more pounds per rim and tire. So I added 80 pounds that wasn't there. They say 100 pounds=1 tenth, but since I haven't been back to the track to find out yet I don't know. I already got mickey thompson d/r's mounted to my old 16s. I am just saving them since I got lots of stuff to install and I am waiting on someone to beat me bad enough were I feel like taking the hit in gas mileage.
12-26-2007, 10:25 AM
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stage 2, exhaust, intake, ingalls torque dampner and few degrees of timing. thats it. read a little deeper i said it was a 1000 foot track. go ahead and tell me to go to "a real" track. ive heard it plenty i just dont have the time or money to waste driving to memphis for a 1/4 track
12-26-2007, 11:49 AM
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i actually think they are a pretty nice car and all becuase when my buddies not on the throttle he is getting something like 30+ mpg's on the highway. they do have their downfalls thou which every car does, they just need quiet a few drivetrain/traction mods before they can really hook up. just my 2cents and im sure ill get bashed a little but hey whatev.
and also to john, 20 pounds per wheel is a sh*t load of rotational mass. you just added 40 pounds of rotational mass to your rear drive tires and if i remember correctly reading somewhere on this site, rotational mass 10lbs= something like 50 pounds dead weigh. so you really just added something like 200 lbs of dead weight to your car which would make you run .2 or more slower. not ripping on you or anything cause you did say you had a set of stickies on the 16's. but nice race good kill op.
12-26-2007, 12:34 PM
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you would expect some times like that but they are very hard to get in those cars becuase they get absolutely no traction. my buddy is in a Cobalt SS car club here in phoenix and the fastest time a cobalt has ever ran in arizona is a 13.6 something like that. there are stage 3+ cobalts with almost 300 horses running 14.00's consistently cause they just cant hook up. my buddy has a 2.7" pullie which is a drag pullie (illegal on the streets) and he has k&n intake a great tune from a local SS guy exhuast and 42 lbs injectors and his aeroforce gauge is saying he has about 295 crank horse and the best time he has ran was a 14.1. and in order for those cobalts to get traction IE some sticky tires they need new axles because the axles the car comes with stock are skinnier than your D*CK when you come out of the woom(terrible sp*)
i actually think they are a pretty nice car and all becuase when my buddies not on the throttle he is getting something like 30+ mpg's on the highway. they do have their downfalls thou which every car does, they just need quiet a few drivetrain/traction mods before they can really hook up. just my 2cents and im sure ill get bashed a little but hey whatev.
and also to john, 20 pounds per wheel is a sh*t load of rotational mass. you just added 40 pounds of rotational mass to your rear drive tires and if i remember correctly reading somewhere on this site, rotational mass 10lbs= something like 50 pounds dead weigh. so you really just added something like 200 lbs of dead weight to your car which would make you run .2 or more slower. not ripping on you or anything cause you did say you had a set of stickies on the 16's. but nice race good kill op.
i actually think they are a pretty nice car and all becuase when my buddies not on the throttle he is getting something like 30+ mpg's on the highway. they do have their downfalls thou which every car does, they just need quiet a few drivetrain/traction mods before they can really hook up. just my 2cents and im sure ill get bashed a little but hey whatev.
and also to john, 20 pounds per wheel is a sh*t load of rotational mass. you just added 40 pounds of rotational mass to your rear drive tires and if i remember correctly reading somewhere on this site, rotational mass 10lbs= something like 50 pounds dead weigh. so you really just added something like 200 lbs of dead weight to your car which would make you run .2 or more slower. not ripping on you or anything cause you did say you had a set of stickies on the 16's. but nice race good kill op.
ya i was just being optimistic for him lol. the best ive seen out of the was low 14s but thats pretty much stock im sure. as for the rotational mass thing, i would hate to know how bad my wheels affect my car. i have 20x10 and 20x8.6 my rear wheels weigh 54lbs a piece without a tire and my fronts weigh46lbs. i need some 15s lol
12-26-2007, 05:14 PM
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yea IF i was to run that 1000 time it would be about a 13.1-13.3 quarter. im thinking 260 is probably a pretty good guess. added new tranny mounts and control arm bushings today and they shoudl help my 60 big time.
12-26-2007, 05:16 PM
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I already weighed the 16's with tires and the 20's with tires. The 20's added 20 more pounds per rim and tire. So I added 80 pounds that wasn't there. They say 100 pounds=1 tenth, but since I haven't been back to the track to find out yet I don't know. I already got mickey thompson d/r's mounted to my old 16s. I am just saving them since I got lots of stuff to install and I am waiting on someone to beat me bad enough were I feel like taking the hit in gas mileage.