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Old 02-08-2008, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
Just buy a Supra
He has a 900 horsepower fbody, i think he's doing just fine

Not a BAD idea, don't think too many would be attracted to it. Then you have the guys that say DIG RACE OR ITS NOT A REAL RACE. Dig and rolls are both fun.
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Alan, you sir are a homo for starting this thread. NO MORE DRUGS FOR YOU.


Seriously though, I can understand where he's coming from. From my own experience driving his car, I spun his fresh BFG DR's @ 120 +/- mph going into 4th..I don't mean just a chirp or anything like that..I'm talking painting black...
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Exactly what I did in mine, but I guess my carsx TOTALLY different than Units and others running their mouths about splitting hairs with 699 hp to 700.



Go drive a car that makes that much freaking power and try to hook it and tell me how fun/easy it is.

As for the track Ill just race on the highway.
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Originally Posted by necrocannibal
Exactly what I did in mine, but I guess my carsx TOTALLY different than Units.
Yours had a stock rear end right? Mine doesn't.
It sure isn't easy launching a car that makes full torque immediately
at WOT, trust me. If it was easy, everyone would be doing it.

Besides, I enjoy running from a roll a lot. It's great on the street
when you see a badass car when you're on the highway or
something. I just don't like the idea of roll racing at the track.
I don't see the big deal about that.
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Originally Posted by Evilways
Part of the skill of racing is knowing how to launch, getting your timing right at the tree and knowing how to set up your car to get traction. This "roll race " idea is junk. Who the **** can't go from a 50 MPH roll and accelerate in a straight line. Where the **** is any skill envolved? The person who came up with organized roll races is probally the first person to slap a wing and stickers on a Civic or put a "GTR " emblem on his Mustang(see this forum for that story,lol). It's cool to get into a race from a roll on the hwy because there is no safe way to dead stop adn launch, but at a contolled enviroment track, that crapis unnessecary. What'd really make me take notice is a 3 to 5 mile strip for top speed testing. 0-200 sounds much more fun than two goobs starting at 50MPH and ending at 100mph a half a mile away.
lol, from the time I go on the onramp to a freeway and ready to merge im at 130.. I promise you within 1 mile of WOT I would be well over 160... and just for reference I dont have traction till past 120mph with 315 bfg drag radials...
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Originally Posted by unit213
Yours had a stock rear end right? Mine doesn't.
It sure isn't easy launching a car that makes full torque immediately
at WOT, trust me. If it was easy, everyone would be doing it.

Besides, I enjoy running from a roll a lot. It's great on the street
when you see a badass car when you're on the highway or
something. I just don't like the idea of roll racing at the track.
I don't see the big deal about that.
Well the main reason for this thread was to get all the people that hate street racing to something that would simulate what they would want to do on the freeway but in a safe environment.

Me personally, I like being able to run whenever I want, who ever I want as many times as I want without waiting for a line. plus i dont have a cage so of coarse the track is out for me too. So Id much rather take it on the freeway due to ease but i was just seeing if there was a happy medium that people might like.
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Originally Posted by tspence45
You're math is a little off. It'd be 2 1/4 miles then, not just 2. Either way, I highly doubt too many people would be attracted to that idea.
Sorry, brain fart, lol. Im ****** tired, but you get the jist of it...
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Originally Posted by Slvr00Bird

Roll racing???
If you need traction get a better suspension set up or some wider tires.. The money it would take to make and maintain a 2 1/2 mile track would be ridiculous..
Ok tell me what else I could add that might help?

So far :
hal 12 point shocks
tubular k member
tubular lcas
tubular upper and lower panhard bar
tubular subframes
tubular adjustable torque arm
315 bfg drag radials
4000 lb car...

And I dont think maintainence would be so much since your not worried about people hooking off the line launching so you wouldnt need to spray too much vht. And it might take longer for cleanup/prep but that would be the price to pay if you wanted to run your ****.

Are you gonna come dial my car in so I can launch a 4k lb 6 speed car at cut 1.5x's?
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Originally Posted by 2000 Tran Zam

Are you gonna come dial my car in so I can launch a 4k lb 6 speed car at cut 1.5x's?
Can I try? If I can't get it to hook, I can guarantee that I'll beat the
**** out of it least.

Tires my friend, tires...those drag radials are nothing for your power.
You need a 28" slick at a minimum.
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I would do it. no digs at the track for me due to no money for my borken rear end......

if it would get people off the streets and be safe why wouldn't you be for it?
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as far as hooking and getting past people with big power numbers, i spin into fourth gear, and really dont have too much trouble keeping it going straight, even off the line. practice your launches or something.
you can only have so much power, at a certain point, traction will become an issue like it has. have to decide sometimes, "do i want great time slips or big numbers to brag about"
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Originally Posted by 2000 Tran Zam
Ok tell me what else I could add that might help?

So far :
hal 12 point shocks
tubular k member
tubular lcas
tubular upper and lower panhard bar
tubular subframes
tubular adjustable torque arm
315 bfg drag radials
4000 lb car...

And I dont think maintainence would be so much since your not worried about people hooking off the line launching so you wouldnt need to spray too much vht. And it might take longer for cleanup/prep but that would be the price to pay if you wanted to run your ****.

Are you gonna come dial my car in so I can launch a 4k lb 6 speed car at cut 1.5x's?
I've heard that a guy named MADMAN can help with those problems.
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The tracks around here are starting to let people roll race. Im not talking about rolling half the track then hitting it but just getting the tires rolling and hitting it. They will let you have a flagman and cut the lights off if thats what you want. Its their attempt to get people off the street.
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Originally Posted by unit213
Can I try? If I can't get it to hook, I can guarantee that I'll beat the
**** out of it least.

Tires my friend, tires...those drag radials are nothing for your power.
You need a 28" slick at a minimum.
I agree you need M/T's at the very least, there are alot less hp cars that broil BFG's or Nitto's from a roll.
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I don't plan on doing anything other than tires to increase my traction, IMO a Vette would have been a stupid choice to buy just to go in a straight line.
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I hear Jeff Gordon is good at those roll races. Maybe yall could rent Talladega to do the Nascar green-flag restart racing.
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They have a track near Houston that does this.. .30-160mph race I think.
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I would like to see a top speed track, and at say a mile it records your time and mph then says to brake as fast as you can, to give you your braking from xxx - 0 in xxxft that would be cool. but if you want to roll race, go to a road course!
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Originally Posted by 2000 Tran Zam
Ok tell me what else I could add that might help?

So far :
hal 12 point shocks
tubular k member
tubular lcas
tubular upper and lower panhard bar
tubular subframes
tubular adjustable torque arm
315 bfg drag radials
4000 lb car...

And I dont think maintainence would be so much since your not worried about people hooking off the line launching so you wouldnt need to spray too much vht. And it might take longer for cleanup/prep but that would be the price to pay if you wanted to run your ****.

Are you gonna come dial my car in so I can launch a 4k lb 6 speed car at cut 1.5x's?
You could try some REAL tires

Infact there is alot you can do to make your car hook. My advice would be to call a shop that has a fast F-body that hooks and ask them what you can do to get yours to hook. Sorry I can't help anymore, I'm just not up to date on F-body suspension.
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omg.. we have people with basically stock cars telling a 408 stroker with a GT55 (839/903 with pump gas) to the ground how to hook...... wtf man??? and if hes leaving black marks at 120+ MTs or anything else for ******* matter isnt going to help him from a dig too much... ****.. you guys are pretty dumb im sorry.. o

as for the idea.. more power to it.. a lot of imports wont race us from a dig for some reason.. guess cause we have so much TQ??? they dont know about the traction issue.. or how powerful they are from 100+... id do it.. id rather do a dig.. but i think it would be a cool change to roll race.. it would make more people be able to see what their cars have.. cause a lot of people dont set up ONLY for the track.. or digs on the street... most of my race are from 30-50 mph.. cause you cant stop on a 4 lane usually.. plus it attracts a lot of attention....


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Suspension:
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^^^^ i cant unstand why you cant hook till after 120... i have BFGs and i hook from a dig... o my bad you make 500 more horsepower than me.. not only more than me... i dont even make what you make doubling mine.. **** heads......



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