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Old Aug 3, 2003 | 12:33 AM
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Tonight i was rolling with my friend who has an 03 cobra, and that thing is fast! Well an SS with a M6 pulled up next to us so we slowed down to about 25. Then my friend downshifted and punched it, and so did the SS. Well the SS puled us by about a car length till around 60, then we pulled about even with him by 70, and when my friend shifted into 3rd and we pulled about 2 carlengths on the SS from 70 to around 100 then we let off because of traffic. Is this usually what happens when stock f-bodies race the 03 cobras. And it seems that the SS was faster until 60 is true. My friend told me that when he races camaros that usually they have him until around 60, then he pulls on them after that. Are the F-bodies faster until they hit 60. I'm going to be getting a WS6 TA some time in the next 2 weeks, and I was wondering if all of the free mods, and a lid will make it so that I could run even with him. I just dont want to loose because my friend is only 15 and his parents bought the car, and i'm 16 and I have had to bust my *** trying to pay for it. So what will it take to get those extra couple of car lengths, so that I don't loose. And are there any other fairly inexpensive mods that I can do that will help.
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Old Aug 3, 2003 | 12:55 AM
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Yah, this has been discussed quite a few times, and im sure doing searches in the engine mod portions of this thread would be alot more helpful then here, but I will quick answer you.

As it has been said, in order to pull on a stock 03 cobra, your going to need between 350-375rwhp. This can be accomplished usually with bolt-ons, and a cam. If you want to get there relatively easily with little money, a 100 shot of nitrous will get you to that mark. That amount of hp should allow you to easily walk any stock 03. Now, if they get some basic bolt-on mods, and one of those god pulley's of theres, your going to need a bunch more. But like I said, the engine mod sections of this board would answer your question much better then the doofs in this section will.

Hehe, jk. :p
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Old Aug 3, 2003 | 01:09 AM
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The SS was stock, and I would think that a 100 shot of nitrous would make the LS1 rape the cobra because is wasn't a reall bad loss for the ss
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Old Aug 3, 2003 | 01:11 AM
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and I dont neccesarilly want to pull on him, but i just want to be even with him, I just dont want to loose
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Old Aug 3, 2003 | 01:43 AM
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If your friend is stock, from 25mph he should of been in 1st gear. An 03 Cobra doesn't red line till 50mph. A 25mph kick for an unmodded Cobra is a dead zone for them.
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Old Aug 3, 2003 | 02:07 AM
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he downshifted into first before he punched it
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Old Aug 3, 2003 | 02:31 AM
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Downshifted into 1st? Why? I'd do a friggin' doughnut in my '03 Cobra if I downshifted into 1st and went WOT. You're going to need some bolt-ons to hang with it. A lid and free mods isn't going to cut it.
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Old Aug 3, 2003 | 03:08 AM
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Downshifted into 1st? Why? I'd do a friggin' doughnut in my '03 Cobra if I downshifted into 1st and went WOT. You're going to need some bolt-ons to hang with it. A lid and free mods isn't going to cut it.
I'll agree that at 25 in 1st WOT is too much unless you're gonna slip the clutch. 25 in second there is lag in a stocker. Road conditions and tire pressure are also a big factor here. jmo
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Old Aug 3, 2003 | 03:53 AM
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Holy ****, a 15 year old with a 03 Cobra, and 16 year old with a WS6! Wow.

No offense, but the parents of that 15 year old must be out of their minds.

"Well son, we decided it would be safest for you to first get some driving experiance behind the wheel of a 380hp 03 Cobra... After that, maybe we'll get you a Viper or a Hayabusa."
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Old Aug 3, 2003 | 05:10 AM
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he downshifted into first before he punched it
Hmm I can see u guys are all experieced M drivers . Who in the right mind would downshift from second to first??
Do u have any Idea what that does to your tranny, not to mention your clutch? The way to do it boys is to clutch, then rev your rpms to reach your torq peak or close to it at least and unload. (All of this being in 2nd. With practice u'll get the hang of it.
Never never downshift to first. I'm hurting for ur cars
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Where is it legal for a 15 yr old to even drive?
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Hmm I can see u guys are all experieced M drivers . Who in the right mind would downshift from second to first??
Do u have any Idea what that does to your tranny, not to mention your clutch? The way to do it boys is to clutch, then rev your rpms to reach your torq peak or close to it at least and unload. (All of this being in 2nd. With practice u'll get the hang of it.
Never never downshift to first. I'm hurting for ur cars
If I remember correctly, isn't the term for this "double-clutch"? (Haha, fast and the furious style. "granny shiftin not double clutchin like ya should". although I don't see how Paul Walker should be double clutching from a dig... stupid *** movie)
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Old Aug 3, 2003 | 01:00 PM
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Holy ****, a 15 year old with a 03 Cobra, and 16 year old with a WS6! Wow.

No offense, but the parents of that 15 year old must be out of their minds.

"Well son, we decided it would be safest for you to first get some driving experiance behind the wheel of a 380hp 03 Cobra... After that, maybe we'll get you a Viper or a Hayabusa."
And the sad thing is after he had the car for only 4 days he got expelled from school, and his parents only took the car away for 2 weeks.
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Old Aug 3, 2003 | 01:31 PM
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I'm hurting for ur cars
His car
I dont have mine yet I just sold my truck and I am waiting until I find the car I want. It shouldn't take very long either I have 25'000 to spend, I'm just waiting until I find one with all the options i want and is a dark color.
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Old Aug 3, 2003 | 01:34 PM
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Where is it legal for a 15 yr old to even drive?
It's not legal, but his parents weren't home that night so we said screw it and took it out for a couple of hours.
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I dont have mine yet I just sold my truck and I am waiting until I find the car I want. It shouldn't take very long either I have 25'000 to spend, I'm just waiting until I find one with all the options i want and is a dark color.
Lucky you. I had to work for 2 and a half years to get my car, and I'm still working to pay it off and afford mods.

It's not legal, but his parents weren't home that night so we said screw it and took it out for a couple of hours.
Pretty dumb. Not only is he driving without a license, but racing, too. If eh was caught, he wouldn't see his license in a looooooooooong time. A kid I knew got caught driving his car down the road and his license was delayed a year. Imagine what would happen if you were caught racing? Plus, it sounds like your friend isn't to keen on how to drive yet. What would you have done if he'd hit and killed somebody?
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he downshifted into first before he punched it
Hmm I can see u guys are all experieced M drivers . Who in the right mind would downshift from second to first??
Do u have any Idea what that does to your tranny, not to mention your clutch? The way to do it boys is to clutch, then rev your rpms to reach your torq peak or close to it at least and unload. (All of this being in 2nd. With practice u'll get the hang of it.
Never never downshift to first. I'm hurting for ur cars
I would go in 1st gear at 25mph any day. Just a nice easy downshift and match the RPMs to the speed.....with practice, u'll get the hang of it. . If you think slipping the clutch(double clutching) is easier on the clutch, take another drag off of whatever it is you're smoking.
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Old Aug 4, 2003 | 12:45 AM
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If you think slipping the clutch(double clutching) is easier on the clutch, take another drag off of whatever it is you're smoking.
I really hope your not talking to me. Who was this comment directed toward?
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Old Aug 4, 2003 | 08:35 AM
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Hmm I can see u guys are all experieced M drivers . Who in the right mind would downshift from second to first??
Do u have any Idea what that does to your tranny, not to mention your clutch? The way to do it boys is to clutch, then rev your rpms to reach your torq peak or close to it at least and unload. (All of this being in 2nd. With practice u'll get the hang of it.
Never never downshift to first. I'm hurting for ur cars
If I remember correctly, isn't the term for this "double-clutch"? (Haha, fast and the furious style. "granny shiftin not double clutchin like ya should". although I don't see how Paul Walker should be double clutching from a dig... stupid *** movie)
Unless I missed something here, thats not double clutching.
He's saying just push your clutch in, bring up your rpm's and dump it, instead of down shifting to 1st.

Also, slipping the clutch is slipping the clutch, it's not double clutching...

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