miamifan3413

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Here's some video's of ls1's vs turbo'ed 350z's
http://video.ls1tech.com/search/350Z...6d4f310c94.htm

dailydriver

I 'bash"/won't own, drive, or "respect" an import nameplate for completely different reasons than most on here. I will not get into it here since it seems to pull all of the smug/azzhat Econ 101ers out of the woodwork (and gets the thread LOCKED DOWN!), so I'll leave it at that.

But that being said, IF all was fair in trade and war, and it was like the 'good old days' when U.S. industry was at the top, EVERYONE had jobs/food, and imports were almost unseen, I might actually own/drive one myself.
IF I could take these factors out of the equation, and look at them objectively, I do actually like some performance imports.

Irunelevens

Somebody said it couldn't be done, I showed them that it could be done. Simple as that. As far as the rest of your post, I think it's laughable that you accuse ME of knowing nothing, when it's readily apparent that you talk directly out of your ***. I NEVER make outrageous claims and bad generalizations. You do.

SonofaBish

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kilgothephenom

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Well, you see what i'm driving now correct? I prefer a domestic over an import myself. I had that car for about a year and got tired of it because i spent so much money on it, and it wasn't that fast in a straight line. That's a handling car, and i wanted it to be something it wasn't.

As far as the look of the exhaust, i didn't like it either. I felt that it looked like a limp dick. The reason i got it was that it was supposed to be the exhaust that made the most power. If that was true, it wasn't much, in my opinion. It was a 70mm headerback, but i didn't feel as though it was much faster than an Invidia dual i had before. I thought the appearance of the car was beautiful, and still do. I'm just more into go rather than show, which is the reason i now have a LS1.

kilgothephenom

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Good video!

SummerOnTheChain

While it is ugly it isn't done for looks. Generally the point of an after market exhaust system is to use bigger piping and eliminate as many bends as possible for increased performance. Most of these tilted exhaust pieces are that way because straightening them out would create a performance-robbing bend in the piping. At least that is where it originated. I would personally never have angled mufflers, but for some people its function>form.

ONEBADASSWS6

I've heard some bullshit before, but that it near the top of the list as far as excuses go.

As if that one extra bend to make the exhaust come out straight is going to kill any horsepower whatsoever. Full mandrel bends rob little to no power compared to a straight pipe, otherwise you wouldn't see intake manifold runners and headers with all the curves and bends that they have.

Japanese people think that crap looks cool, thats the only reason for it. In America, we like our exhausts not to look retarded and ghetto rigged, so we point them straight out and don't use gay looking fart cans.

Just another reason why I would never even consider owning a Japanese "performance" car. I never want to be included with a subculture of ricers that think garbage like that is attractive.

miamifan3413

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The cam/bolt on NBM SS was sick as hell.....pulled that Z hard. Those Z's are pretty fast but it cost about $15,000 more dollars to make it close to a LS1 that spent maybe $3000-$4000 if that.

Blwn_by_Twins

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Yep.

Blwn_by_Twins

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Please read the ENTIRE post before commenting. I only compaired the two b/c he said Z's HAD TO BE FI I TO KEEP UP WITH A STOCK LS1, which is not true! I can tell your the type of guy who can NEVER be wrong so I'll let you finish and be done with you. You keep bringing up "How much I've spent". Sounds to me like your a little jealous. My heap, lol whatever JR.

CuNfUzEd

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Nice. Not as peaky as I expected. I bet it feels like you are going to take off.LOL I want to go boosted SSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO bad.

2000T/A Guru

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Actually hes right, that exactly why its done, they want no bends in the exahust because as he said more bends=less hp, some do think it looks good but most just want the performance gain.

kilgothephenom

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You all are 100% WRONG. The exhaust tip is bent down...so why would bending it DOWN make it flow better?! Wouldn't it make more sense to leave it STRAIGHT?

Seeing as though that is MY old S2000, i know why the J's 70mm headerback exhaust has the angled tip. The only reason it is bent down is to keep black exhaust fumes from getting on the bumper. With it not having a cat, if it had a straight tip, it'd leave all kinds of grime on the rear bumper over the exhaust. With the tip angled down, no grease/grime gets on the bumper. That is the ONLY reason it is bent, other than the fact that some people think it looks better.

toslo5o

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i believe this claim over others...

Q:how much would a 30* or so bend on an oversized pipe reduce hp?

A: none...maybe 1hp lol

kilgothephenom

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It wouldn't. The entire exhaust is as straight as possible...except for the tip. How could someone think that they bend the tip down to make it as straight as possible? WTF?! If that isn't an oxymoron then i don't know what is. What's worse is that someone defended his statement.

The only reason is to keep grime/black/oil/fumes/gunk off of the rear bumper right above where the exhaust is hung. Also, some people, for whatever reason, like the angled look. I only had it because it was supposed to be the best exhaust on the market. It was $1,300 just for the exhaust. Imagine how much you could do with a LS1 for $1,300. To top it off, that $1,300 exhaust yielded nothing on the butt dyno and probably only 6-7 hp.

kilgothephenom

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toslo5o

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i was defending your statement.... i don't know how all ricer exhaust is set up im jus sayin if one car had to bend it a little to make it not angle down there would be little to no performance

kilgothephenom

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I know you were defending me. If you look up, there were two seperate people thinking the exhaust is bent to help hp. When i mentioned two people, that;s wha i was referring to. You were the first one to realize how dumb of a statement that is.

ONEBADASSWS6

So basically those motors must run like **** when you start modding them if you need to angle the exhaust tips downward to prevent carbon from building up in the bumper. I guess thats what happens when you try and get high horsepower out of a 4 cylinder, you end up running way too rich in the lower RPM's before you actually get it into the powerband. I've seen this on just about every 4 cylinder import on the road, civics to evos, the bumpers are black or burned near the exhaust tip.

My car has true duals, no cats, and bolts ons with a tune. Quad exhaust tips stick straight out the back, and I don't get any carbon on my bumper. I guess having an engine that runs properly makes all the difference.