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both the ls1 camaro and the mach one weighed in at close to 3500
my o1 states curb weight is 3450
they were both rated at a little over 300
ls1 being 315 in 01 for the z-28 and the mach one at 305
but i can tell that alot of you mustang guys didnt know that the ls1 was underrated and actually made 300 at the wheels,my 01 did 298 stock at the wheels not the crank
a mach one is usually close to 270 stock at the wheels and about the same weight as a camaro
and for everyones info i did state that a termi is faster but not by much,being as it put about 360 to the wheels stock and is about 150 lbs heavier
im not saying that an ls1 and a cobra is so close that it is a drivers race,with two equal drivers a termi should win
so all of you mustang trolls out there go get on a mustang site to talk your nonsense
if you didnt get it the last three times, it is always a drivers race anytime you run, but an ls1 is faster than a mach one stock to stock
my o1 states curb weight is 3450
they were both rated at a little over 300
ls1 being 315 in 01 for the z-28 and the mach one at 305
but i can tell that alot of you mustang guys didnt know that the ls1 was underrated and actually made 300 at the wheels,my 01 did 298 stock at the wheels not the crank
a mach one is usually close to 270 stock at the wheels and about the same weight as a camaro
and for everyones info i did state that a termi is faster but not by much,being as it put about 360 to the wheels stock and is about 150 lbs heavier
im not saying that an ls1 and a cobra is so close that it is a drivers race,with two equal drivers a termi should win
so all of you mustang trolls out there go get on a mustang site to talk your nonsense
if you didnt get it the last three times, it is always a drivers race anytime you run, but an ls1 is faster than a mach one stock to stock
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both the ls1 camaro and the mach one weighed in at close to 3500
my o1 states curb weight is 3450
they were both rated at a little over 300
ls1 being 315 in 01 for the z-28 and the mach one at 305
but i can tell that alot of you mustang guys didnt know that the ls1 was underrated and actually made 300 at the wheels,my 01 did 298 stock at the wheels not the crank
a mach one is usually close to 270 stock at the wheels and about the same weight as a camaro
and for everyones info i did state that a termi is faster but not by much,being as it put about 360 to the wheels stock and is about 150 lbs heavier
im not saying that an ls1 and a cobra is so close that it is a drivers race,with two equal drivers a termi should win
so all of you mustang trolls out there go get on a mustang site to talk your nonsense
if you didnt get it the last three times, it is always a drivers race anytime you run, but an ls1 is faster than a mach one stock to stock
my o1 states curb weight is 3450
they were both rated at a little over 300
ls1 being 315 in 01 for the z-28 and the mach one at 305
but i can tell that alot of you mustang guys didnt know that the ls1 was underrated and actually made 300 at the wheels,my 01 did 298 stock at the wheels not the crank
a mach one is usually close to 270 stock at the wheels and about the same weight as a camaro
and for everyones info i did state that a termi is faster but not by much,being as it put about 360 to the wheels stock and is about 150 lbs heavier
im not saying that an ls1 and a cobra is so close that it is a drivers race,with two equal drivers a termi should win
so all of you mustang trolls out there go get on a mustang site to talk your nonsense
if you didnt get it the last three times, it is always a drivers race anytime you run, but an ls1 is faster than a mach one stock to stock
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LOL way to magazine race.....................
is that what you say when someone speaks fact
i didnt have to look at **** to get any of that info because unlike some i take time to learn about cars not just my car all cars
and i have owned several mustangs the last one being an 07 outlaw edition gt that i sold a month ago due to having a third kid
it is kinda funny you try to act like you know me,even my buddies that are die hard mustang nuts ask me ****
its not that im a complete car nut it is just that i have been married a while and it is my favorite past time
im sorry if you dont know the subject that is near and dear as well as some
i have several of theses cars close to me and i take it upon myself to know my ****
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is that what you say when someone speaks fact
i didnt have to look at **** to get any of that info because unlike some i take time to learn about cars not just my car all cars
and i have owned several mustangs the last one being an 07 outlaw edition gt that i sold a month ago due to having a third kid
it is kinda funny you try to act like you know me,even my buddies that are die hard mustang nuts ask me ****
its not that im a complete car nut it is just that i have been married a while and it is my favorite past time
im sorry if you dont know the subject that is near and dear as well as some
i have several of theses cars close to me and i take it upon myself to know my ****
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magazine racing is exactly what all you ford trolls are doing here
you are taking factory ratings and trying to compare them,when i am taking dyno/track proven facts and comparing them
who is the magazine racer now dumbass
you are taking factory ratings and trying to compare them,when i am taking dyno/track proven facts and comparing them
who is the magazine racer now dumbass
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OKAY GUYS I GIVE UP,YOU GUYS CAN JUST RUN THE HELL OUT OF MACH ONES
HERE MACH 1'S ARE LUCKY TO BREAK INTO THE 8'S IN THE 1/8 MILE WHILE LS CARS DO IT ALL THE TIME EASILY
I HAVE NEVER SEEN A MACH ONE RUN THAT KINDA TIME BUT IF YOU SAY SO
TERMIS AROUND HERE THAT ARE STOCK ARENT FAR INTO THE 8'S BUT A MACH ONE IN EQUAL CONDITIONSCAN DO IT? B/S
HERE MACH 1'S ARE LUCKY TO BREAK INTO THE 8'S IN THE 1/8 MILE WHILE LS CARS DO IT ALL THE TIME EASILY
I HAVE NEVER SEEN A MACH ONE RUN THAT KINDA TIME BUT IF YOU SAY SO
TERMIS AROUND HERE THAT ARE STOCK ARENT FAR INTO THE 8'S BUT A MACH ONE IN EQUAL CONDITIONSCAN DO IT? B/S
both the ls1 camaro and the mach one weighed in at close to 3500
my o1 states curb weight is 3450
they were both rated at a little over 300
ls1 being 315 in 01 for the z-28 and the mach one at 305
but i can tell that alot of you mustang guys didnt know that the ls1 was underrated and actually made 300 at the wheels,my 01 did 298 stock at the wheels not the crank
a mach one is usually close to 270 stock at the wheels and about the same weight as a camaro
if you didnt get it the last three times, it is always a drivers race anytime you run, but an ls1 is faster than a mach one stock to stock
my o1 states curb weight is 3450
they were both rated at a little over 300
ls1 being 315 in 01 for the z-28 and the mach one at 305
but i can tell that alot of you mustang guys didnt know that the ls1 was underrated and actually made 300 at the wheels,my 01 did 298 stock at the wheels not the crank
a mach one is usually close to 270 stock at the wheels and about the same weight as a camaro
if you didnt get it the last three times, it is always a drivers race anytime you run, but an ls1 is faster than a mach one stock to stock
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Please tell me the fastest stock time you have run (or time with nothing but a O/R Y pipe and catback). Because with mods that IMO do nothing for the car I got a basically stock Mach 1 to run 13.2 in the 1/4th mile on a completely **** run and the first time I've ever even run a Mach 1 at the track. Give me a stock Mach 1 with 20,000 miles on the motor and I'll give you a 12 second time slip. Bring that little LS1 in your sig that you say I don't want none of too.
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I think you guys are confused at what im trying to get at.I know what you are saying,but in not so perfect world car"a" trees car"b" and at the end of the track car"b" catches up and wins by a bumper @13.1 to a 13.2.
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both the ls1 camaro and the mach one weighed in at close to 3500
my o1 states curb weight is 3450
they were both rated at a little over 300
ls1 being 315 in 01 for the z-28 and the mach one at 305
but i can tell that alot of you mustang guys didnt know that the ls1 was underrated and actually made 300 at the wheels,my 01 did 298 stock at the wheels not the crank
a mach one is usually close to 270 stock at the wheels and about the same weight as a camaro
my o1 states curb weight is 3450
they were both rated at a little over 300
ls1 being 315 in 01 for the z-28 and the mach one at 305
but i can tell that alot of you mustang guys didnt know that the ls1 was underrated and actually made 300 at the wheels,my 01 did 298 stock at the wheels not the crank
a mach one is usually close to 270 stock at the wheels and about the same weight as a camaro
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My completely-stock, not-even-broken-in-yet '03 Mach 1 put down 283 rwhp even though
it was factory-rated @ 305 (crank) hp.
Mach 1 rear-end gearing is more aggressive from the factory - 3.55's vs what? 3.42's or less?
Mach 1 transmission gearing on the Mach is also more aggressive - 3.39 1st gear vs what? 2.67? 2.97? for the 6-speed?
Same weight + more aggressive gearing can make up for a 15 rwhp difference easily.