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Old 05-07-2008, 03:48 AM
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have either one of you seen a 500,000 dollar bill? doesnt mean they dont exist.....who cares. yes the s2000 car alone is capable of high 13's just as is the same with the fbod runnin high 12's. the bottom line is i think your hurt that a 4 cyl can run a faster time than you......
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4:10's in an a4 is like 4:56 in a m6
Old 05-07-2008, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Ok, well here's the story again...

I was going to sell my Mustang anyway and get a Wrangler till I finished with school. In the middle of me looking, my mom (previous owner of said S2000) asked how much I think I could get for my car. I told her around $10k, and she said, "Well how about I give you my car, and take your's to get back the downpayment on a new car I just decided to get?" So of course I said yes, mom got an '01 Vette Z51/6spd, and the Mustang is for sale
NICE! Your mom is bad ***!!
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
So the only way to enjoy driving a car is to go as fast in a straightline as possible? There are people that live by some delicious backroads that like to carve up the twisties every once in a while
You mean roads like this? I've got a bike for that. Even if I wanted a car that handled really well it would still have to have some *****. I just don't think you can replace the feeling of being pinned back in the seat with handling. If it did both though that would be great.
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Old 05-07-2008, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by rocksws6
You mean roads like this? I've got a bike for that. Even if I wanted a car that handled really well it would still have to have some *****. I just don't think you can replace the feeling of being pinned back in the seat with handling. If it did both though that would be great.
Well I would get another bike if I could, unfortunately that's not gonna happen for a while . My Mustang was quite fun around the same corners that I take the S2000 in as well, but it still couldn't hide the fact that it was a ~3500lb SRA car with a platform designed in the late 70s vs. a ~2850lb 4-wheel independent double-wishbone car with a MUCH more solid platform designed in the late 90s. And it doesn't have tire-shredding torque, but coming out of a 75mph corner in 3rd gear @ 7,000rpm does give you quite the little slingshot, especially with the amount of momentum you can take into corners.
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Originally Posted by rocksws6
I like S2000's but they need more power. But when you do that then you have to worry about breaking the diff. Then it costs so much to get power out of them it really not worth it. I think S2000's are better suited for women or old people that just want to get out and cruise.
No doubt the s2000 is a chick car.
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Originally Posted by ta_06374
Yah, keep telling yourself that....
Do a search. They're capable of 13.9-13.8 at 101-102 stock. It's difficult to get a great launch out of them so most will run mid 14's to low 14's.
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Originally Posted by TORNATIC!!
Do a search. They're capable of 13.9-13.8 at 101-102 stock. It's difficult to get a great launch out of them so most will run mid 14's to low 14's.


Like I said before, most people are not willing to launch the car at 7500rpms (unless its stolen) so 99% of them that you see are going to be stuck in the mid 14's....
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Originally Posted by ta_06374
Like I said before, most people are not willing to launch the car at 7500rpms (unless its stolen) so 99% of them that you see are going to be stuck in the mid 14's....
Well **** 99% of people don't even GO to the dragstrip... doesn't mean their cars might not be capable of good times.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
No... the 2.0 S2000s are capable of high 13s in the right hands/conditions. But still nowhere near a well-driven LS1, especially from a roll. Good kill OP
Stock LS1 F-bodies are capable of high 12's in the right hands/conditions... BIG difference between 13.9 and 12.9!
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Originally Posted by ta_06374
Like I said before, most people are not willing to launch the car at 7500rpms (unless its stolen) so 99% of them that you see are going to be stuck in the mid 14's....
I agree. They weren't built for the drag strip anyway.
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Originally Posted by Paint_It_Black
Stock LS1 F-bodies are capable of high 12's in the right hands/conditions... BIG difference between 13.9 and 12.9!
Um... I know. I said that quite a few times in this thread. Did you READ the thread?
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Originally Posted by The Manalishi
Some of us do but I prefer a BMW for that. I love my F-Body but a BMW is a more balanced car for carving up the twistys. The torque of the BMW sucks for straight line stuff but when the road turns twisty the bimmer really shines. I have owned several of both cars for those that would like to challenge my knowledge of the subject. A Vette is close but not quite there. I have to admit I don't have a lot of road time in the C6 but the ones I have driven are still just not quite there.
Really now? I'd put money down on my Z51 C6 over any BMW short of the M5 and M6.
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I ran a S2K in my stock formula from maybe a 40 roll, 4th gear was pullin on him, then i downshifted to 3rd and it was nasty for him. I thought they were a lil quicker than that.
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Originally Posted by rocksws6
You mean roads like this? I've got a bike for that. Even if I wanted a car that handled really well it would still have to have some *****. I just don't think you can replace the feeling of being pinned back in the seat with handling. If it did both though that would be great.
I've ran the dragon a few times. It's not a road for the light hearted, had to pull over a few times to let my passenger
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S200's are pretty slow..14.0-14.6 car at 94-99 mph is tha average..But they can handle around a twistie course very nicely...I personally think they are hideos with the top up and dont care much for them..

..BUT...

When my 99 Viper was dead stock pushing 410 rwhp I raced a S2000 that was BUILT with a supercharger pushing 350 rwhp...From 50-100 mph we were door to door and finally from 100-140 mph I put 2 cars on him..Earned my respect thats for sure and I no longer underestimate them..
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
High 14s? You're just stupid claiming that. My BONE STOCK Integra GS-R ran a 14.97... please tell me why a RWD car with 70hp more can't run considerably better? Since all 2000-2003 S2000s are almost EXACTLY the same performance-wise (which cannot be said about LS1 F-bodies), if one can do it, then yes... basically all of them can. Like I said, with the right driver/conditions, they are capable of high 13s.
and with the right driver/conditions, ls1s are capable of high 12s.


so no matter how u look at it...thats the outcome that i was expecting


and for reference
2000 Honda S2000 5.5 14.2
2003 Honda S2000 6.3 14.9 (Manual)
2004 Honda S2000 5.8 14.2 (MT Mar '04)
2006 Honda S2000 5.5 14.0 (C&D May '06)
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Originally Posted by BlueBird346
I ran a S2K in my stock formula from maybe a 40 roll, 4th gear was pullin on him, then i downshifted to 3rd and it was nasty for him. I thought they were a lil quicker than that.
With the right driver, they're about as quick from a dig as a stock 99-04 Mustang GT 5spd... from a roll, they're a wee bit stronger.
Originally Posted by chvycmaroz28
and with the right driver/conditions, ls1s are capable of high 12s.


so no matter how u look at it...thats the outcome that i was expecting


and for reference
2000 Honda S2000 5.5 14.2
2003 Honda S2000 6.3 14.9 (Manual)
2004 Honda S2000 5.8 14.2 (MT Mar '04)
2006 Honda S2000 5.5 14.0 (C&D May '06)
Oh... My... God... I already said eleventy-billion times IN THIS THREAD that I am fully aware that the right LS1 with the right driver can hit 12s. That was NEVER in question. The outcome of the race wasn't even in question. I was simply answering the guy that asked "aren't they like, 14.5s cars at best?" And those magazine times are about what you can expect from a good driver... a great driver can do better. With the exception of the 14.9 of course; that guy must have launched off idle or something. But remember that most magazines don't actually test at drag strips, which makes a difference.
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Originally Posted by dsmfan95
I've ran the dragon a few times. It's not a road for the light hearted, had to pull over a few times to let my passenger
Yeah its a good time. Its gotten really crowded lately and the cops started being ******** so I quit going as often but its a blast on those days when the cops and the cruisers ain't there.
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Originally Posted by Sarge_13
Really now? I'd put money down on my Z51 C6 over any BMW short of the M5 and M6.
I stated I don't have a lot of seat time in a C6. I am talking about balance and feedback and the feeling of it more than pure capabilties. The BMW feels better and gives more feedback than a Vette. The Vettes steering is overweighted and doesn't provide very good feedback as to what the tires are doing. The M cars are close in capabilities as well as providing the feedback and feeling that you have control of the car. I wasn't starting **** I was merely stating my observations having experience with both cars. The Vette will likely outrun any BMW on a roadcourse except some of the M cars it just doesn't feel as poised and communicative. That was the point of my post not that a BMW is a better handling or faster car. Its just a more rewarding experience in my opinion and several others if you read the feedback from owners and magazines. I don't place much value on magazines though. Sorry if that wasn't clear from what I stated earlier.


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