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Well the fact alone that they are 4100lbs and on the right conditions run high 12's @ 108-110 and run 170-175mph totally stock. I guess youre not impressed with any AMG/M cars or the CTS-V's either? The SS that Evan ran high 12's is still talked about and these 4 door sedans would outrun it at all areas (1/4, roll and topend) all while riding like a Benz is actually quite nice. Everybody is impressed with the G8's and they dont dyno or trap what the quickest SRT's do. How can they not be impressive? They are not to be compared to Cobra's, Vettes and F-bodies but they will actually run with most of them and outrun some of them. Hey Livernois motorsports was impressed and like I said, I come from a KB Cobra and I enjoy driving the 300 just as much, though noting near the power obviously. My .02.
This is a big 4dr with 20" wheels no less. I bet it would run even quicker with 17-18's through the 1/4 with an Auto no less. Very nice indeed.
This is a big 4dr with 20" wheels no less. I bet it would run even quicker with 17-18's through the 1/4 with an Auto no less. Very nice indeed.
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Same with LS1s in my area, SRT-8s are low 13sec cars here though. Plenty in the 12s stock, the Diablo guarantees it.
I haven't lost to an LS1 yet, sounds like OP ran a guy who doesn't know his car. Not saying it would win, but it would have been much, much closer.
Common mistakes are manually shifting and not turning ESP off.
Bottom line - nice kill.
I haven't lost to an LS1 yet, sounds like OP ran a guy who doesn't know his car. Not saying it would win, but it would have been much, much closer.
Common mistakes are manually shifting and not turning ESP off.
Bottom line - nice kill.
Dude, with your weight and HP, you wouldnt drag your way out of a paper bag around here. So yeah, your 4 door family car isnt running all over any LS powered bird or camaro unless driven by a 4th grader. Fkn Dueschbag. Are you going to be as bad as "some" of the Blue Oval boys?
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When I was catback only, I took down and SRT8, and he had the jump... Now, I will destroy them. I think the chargers are junk because they share only a name with a real muscle car. The 300c version is better IMO because its not supposed to be muscle, its supposed to be classy. They are quick for what they are, which is a mid life crisis car. You want to be able to beat most other cars on the road, but still want your baby seats to fit in the back while hauling the milk home for dinner. I am contemplating buying the SRT8 300 for my wife, and get rid of her TB LS. But, I am not expecting it to perform like a sports car. Maybe a crossover?
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When I was catback only, I took down and SRT8, and he had the jump... Now, I will destroy them. I think the chargers are junk because they share only a name with a real muscle car. The 300c version is better IMO because its not supposed to be muscle, its supposed to be classy. They are quick for what they are, which is a mid life crisis car. You want to be able to beat most other cars on the road, but still want your baby seats to fit in the back while hauling the milk home for dinner. I am contemplating buying the SRT8 300 for my wife, and get rid of her TB LS. But, I am not expecting it to perform like a sports car. Maybe a crossover?
With the CAI/Tune our 300 outran my 02 SS (Magnaflow/Lid/TB) not too shabby. Plenty off room for baby seats and friends and still play with Vettes. Main reason for it.
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The 300 is not a midlife crisis car, but the SRT version would be. The only people I really see driving them are Yuppies, Dealers, and the spoiled teenies... Right now its a toss up between the TB SS and an SRT 300...
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Dude, with your weight and HP, you wouldnt drag your way out of a paper bag around here. So yeah, your 4 door family car isnt running all over any LS powered bird or camaro unless driven by a 4th grader. Fkn Dueschbag. Are you going to be as bad as "some" of the Blue Oval boys?
btw, the 300 has a softer suspension and the LX stock record is 12.56 @ 111mph.
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But, the cars do have some go, just not what they are for. Cruising the e ways at 110, yes, tearing down the track... Um, no. I can think of better platforms to drop that kind of coin for if I am looking for a street/strip car. Like a fox or a F body for that matter.
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I'm from Chicago and you have no idea where I ride, who I ride with or how much I ride. None whatsoever.
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Dude, it doesnt matter who you ride with or where you ride. Come back out here, bring your car, bring your bike with all those hard ridden miles on it, and I will wax them both. Hell, I will let my buddy in his stock car take down your 12.82 and not waste my gas. For your information there cupcake, Stock LS1s are tickling the 12s with the right driver, and way less whp. Hell there are converter only cars footbreaking to mid 12s on street tires... So either the LS cars you run into are all driven by talentless hacks, or your talking out of your ***. Which is it? Shoot me a PM next time your in the area if your still butt hurt I picked on your sled. As for blue collar, gang related chicago, lets just say we aren't upset you moved closer to your people.
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Dude, it doesnt matter who you ride with or where you ride. Come back out here, bring your car, bring your bike with all those hard ridden miles on it, and I will wax them both. Hell, I will let my buddy in his stock car take down your 12.82 and not waste my gas. For your information there cupcake, Stock LS1s are tickling the 12s with the right driver, and way less whp. Hell there are converter only cars footbreaking to mid 12s on street tires... So either the LS cars you run into are all driven by talentless hacks, or your talking out of your ***. Which is it? Shoot me a PM next time your in the area if your still butt hurt I picked on your sled. As for blue collar, gang related chicago, lets just say we aren't upset you moved closer to your people.
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You would know... I was just stating that if you havent lost to a LS1 yet, its bullshit. First, 12.8 is impressive for a 4 door, with a cat back and diablo tune, but, saying that it is wooping all the LS cars in your area is a little far fetched, since stock LS's with the right drive could match that. And we all know how many Camaros and Firebirds remain stock.
Stock for stock, it should be a drivers race... But compairing the SRT model to a standard bird or camaro, shouldnt even be an arguement.
Stock for stock, it should be a drivers race... But compairing the SRT model to a standard bird or camaro, shouldnt even be an arguement.
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You would know... I was just stating that if you havent lost to a LS1 yet, its bullshit. First, 12.8 is impressive for a 4 door, with a cat back and diablo tune, but, saying that it is wooping all the LS cars in your area is a little far fetched, since stock LS's with the right drive could match that. And we all know how many Camaros and Firebirds remain stock.
Stock for stock, it should be a drivers race... But compairing the SRT model to a standard bird or camaro, shouldnt even be an arguement.
Stock for stock, it should be a drivers race... But compairing the SRT model to a standard bird or camaro, shouldnt even be an arguement.
First, you need to realize tracks vary. There are stock LXs trapping 109-110mph at Union Grove.
Stock, the SRT-8s are consistently faster than the LS cars. Not by much but a best-ever, Evan Smith shifting trap speed of 109mph is routine for a stock SRT-8 at the same track.
Driver's race vs. LS, CTS-Vs, E39 M5s, C5 6Ms, LS2 GTOs and the stock Terminator better bring his A-game as well.
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Oh, 2 losses. A S/C Z at Sears and fell asleep at a light one other time.
First, you need to realize tracks vary. There are stock LXs trapping 109-110mph at Union Grove.
Stock, the SRT-8s are consistently faster than the LS cars. Not by much but a best-ever, Evan Smith shifting trap speed of 109mph is routine for a stock SRT-8 at the same track.
Driver's race vs. LS, CTS-Vs, E39 M5s, C5 6Ms, LS2 GTOs and the stock Terminator better bring his A-game as well.
First, you need to realize tracks vary. There are stock LXs trapping 109-110mph at Union Grove.
Stock, the SRT-8s are consistently faster than the LS cars. Not by much but a best-ever, Evan Smith shifting trap speed of 109mph is routine for a stock SRT-8 at the same track.
Driver's race vs. LS, CTS-Vs, E39 M5s, C5 6Ms, LS2 GTOs and the stock Terminator better bring his A-game as well.
Very true indeed. I love em.
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It's hard to say that honestly...I went 13.1 @ 108mph on a 2.1 60ft... F-Body cars have been seen in the high 12s with 108mph traps as well.......
It's a very close race but I don't believe the SRT-8 is vastly stronger on the top end. Anyone have a slip to compare numbers? I would be curious to see where they are at the 1/8th vs 1/4 (to compare top end if you will)..