180ls1

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wow those long tubes must be the ticket because my buddy has a intake, axleback and tune and i could hold him off when i was stock with a 250lb passanger in my car. Seems like a runner you have there.

2k05gt

In Conjunction with the Larger MAF and Charge Motion Delete Plates. Long Tube headers really allows the air to flow down to the 2 1/2 inch dual exhaust
I did'nt see much gain with the CMDP until the LT.

the only intakes that are worth it is the JLT II or the C&L, the MAF is large enough for most. I think the key thing is getting the right combonation of mods at the right time, some work well with others. I am sure its the same with any car.

Unfortunatly Cams don't do a whole lot for the 3v (25-30-hp) the OHC just don't lend well to cams like push rod motors do

King Nothing

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yeah the guy we know wont get lt's for some reason, i think it's so he can stay smog legal . . . has to do with his occupation oh well though but maybe he should take some advice from you so he's not neck and neck with me anymore lol

2k05gt

it all depends of the mods that are done and who tunned the car I have had canned tunes that are fantastic and have seen dyno tunes that suck. I am running a canned tune from Bamachips and it has been the best one, I have tried. Evolution performance, VMP and Brendspeeds tunes and they have been ok but not as strong as Bamachips. I have a Dyno Tune scheduled with bamachips on the 19 july. He is the best at tuning the automatics since they require a lot more tweeking to get right.

I have tried all 4 tunes at the track on that same day and there was a difference of 3 tenths between them. so not only are the right combo of mods but the tune is also important. If S197 guys insist to use canned tunes you must also be willing to make tweeks and changes to get the best out of your tune.

NightWindDriftr

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Yup. I drive a stockish LS1 and a stock S197 GT; I think I know what I'm talking about. With mods the bets are off, but you're going to have a hard time convincing me that an equally-modded LS1 won't stomp the 4.6 by the time third comes around.

I still love the GT though - it's here to stay.

jawsgt

equally modded there before H/C just normal bolt ons there just about equal. i owned both a 99 ws-6 and my 07 gt with equal mods to both and they run almost the exact same 1/4 times. my et slips almost overlap each other and if it wasnt for the date being on it i wouldnt know the difference there that close

S8ER95Z

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There was a guy recently who trapped 114mph with Longtubes... You can't say that they are 'equal' 1:1 comparisons.

jawsgt

well then he had a very good running ls1 and lived on the coast because my t/a had a few more mods than my mustang and it never came close to a 114 mph. it trapped consistent 110's which is wut my mustang traps but it doesnt have 4.11's,TB,MAF,suspension,dr's. theres waaay less money into my mustang than my t/a and it runs very similar tires. my t/a did run mid 12's tho but that was due to the dr's. if i had dr's on the stang it would run the exact same times

Loveracing

Wanna see what an S197 can do with 4.10's and intake tune and exhaust(not even full)?

And to show it's not a fluke, here's another LS2 kill.

No supercharger necessary, just a few tweaks here and there.

S8ER95Z

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I'm very surprised your T/A has more mods than your stang and traps less.... do you have times from both for comparison?

jawsgt

yes i do there 3 years apart but both ran within 2 weeks of each other.

3/28/05 4/15/08
99 ws-6 LT'S,susp,dr's,moser 12 bolt 07 gt manual,lt's pypes mid muffler,
4.11's,LM,lid,maf,tb,spec 4/flywheel stock tires,cai,93 tune, 3.31's

1.77 60 ft 2.14 60ft
5.29 330 ft 5.63 330ft
8.25 1/8th 8.45 1/8 th
85.47 mph 85.25 mph
10.67 1000ft 10.94 1000ft
12.68 1/4 13.02 1/4
110.04 mph 111.04 mph

Loveracing

These new GT's came so choked up from the factory with the plates under the intake and such. I know now what my next mods are going to be.

chavez885

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You could drive better than the others in both those videos, not sure waht you're trying to prove?

A 3valve does not stand a chance mod for mod with equal drivers vs an LS1 much less an LS2, judge from what i've seen on the streets/track. Maybe we need better 3valve drivers?

So with LT's,suspension,radials,4.11s and a TB, you ET'd .3 faster than stock? Prolly had to do with putting an aftermarket MAF and not tuning it.

Also with your GT you had a 2.14 60ft compared to a 1.77 on the TA, of course you're gonna trap higher. It's cool to make comparisons but make sure you realize the differences.

Sarge_13

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Prolly has more to do with his 2.14 60' that you already addressed.

Loveracing

Dude, he lost and he lost bad, and Everytime I race a stock GTO or CTS-V, or even a STock LS1, they're going to lose. What's the big deal? LS1's and 2's get beat. Cars get beat all the time. Don't bring up the mod for mod thing, because it doesn't change the fact that I won. Money can make any car fast.
There are so many Stangs out on the street, there has to be plenty of bad drivers out there. There are plenty at my track that were running .5 seconds slower than what me and my friends were running when we were stock. My friend troy raced the guy, beat him bad. I raced him again, beat him bad. I know what stock GT0's run at my track and they cannot beat me. No one's saying mod for mod, the 4.6 is going to outmod the LSx's. I don't care about that mod for mod stuff cuz there's always someone faster. When I slap a Hellion turbo on mine, it won't matter to me at all who's car does what. I'll just be adding kills. I'm about I'm pointing out that with a few smart mods, I can be fast enough to definately shock the over confident drivers you often see on the road. The guy even asked me if I had a supercharger in there. I raced a guy in a Ls1 camaro last year with my mods, cept he had opened his exhaust, he beat me bad. Now, I've opened my exhaust, I"ve run quicker than the time he posted when he clobbered me. I want to run into him again. If he's the same, It'll be a good race. I'll post it.

boola1341

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Is a rosch mustang any faster than the gt....05 and newer model???

jawsgt

i know that when u have a worse 60ft ur trap speed is better but its within a couple mph. yes my t/a was faster but not by much expecially with the other mods. as for a rush mustang only if u get a stage 2 or 3 with a supercharger but there not much faster than a fulll bolt on gt. the roots type charger sucks and i would personaly never buy a roush charger

jawsgt

.3 faster than stock? since when does a stock ls1 run 12.9s?

unit213

Since 1997.

Sarge_13

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No. Stage 2 is only suspension upgrades. Stage 3 is the supercharger kit. I think it was retarded how they put a V6 blower on a V8.