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Old 09-10-2003, 02:48 AM
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come on... give it up. they were real trans ams... i would know if it was a v6... just because i chose to build a 4cyl doesnt mean i cant count spark plug wires. my car isnt a GSR either. its an LS block. b18c5 type r head. tvm individual throttle bodies (yes, right now its all motor.) the head was freshly rebuilt with crower springs, retainters, valves. +1 valves were used. mild port and polish on the head. of course, 3 angle valve job. the LS block was used to give me more torque, it was done with eagle rods, and civic type r pistons. also, the combustion chambers on the head were welded to give me a good 13:1 compression ratio. as you can tell, with that compression ratio, i would not run nitrous. anyway, im hoping to find out what it runs in the quarter as soon as i make the 100mile trip to the track.
your setup is pretty similar to my own. but i have a few ?s about your it.

you sleeved your block but kept the stock bore?

if this isn't your daily driver why are you using cast OE CTR pistons with forged Eagle rods? you had to have the pistons machined in order for them to even work with those rods and if this isnt your daily driver, why skimp?

why didnt you just use aftermarket 13:1 pistons and leave the cc's stock?

you also never mentioned what kind of cams you are running. running any type of crower valve springs with Integra Type R cams is overkill and could only hurt performance.

and your compression ratio does not necessarily dictate the need for larger injectors. running high compression means your combustion will more easily detonate from too much ignition timing or too hot of a spark plug, not just running lean.

and the LS block isn't what gave you more torque, the stroke on the LS crank is.

you really need a dyno sheet or a time slip. otherwise you really need to respect the members here for what they've already said. this is mainly an LS1 site and ricer enthusiasts dont play out well here.
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Wow sleeper ... that was excellent.

As I was saying before, non of us here are 'proclaiming' to be import specialists. I myself, could tell you basically anything you needed to know about most domestic engines/cars, but not really so much so when it comes to imports. All I figure, however, is that every car works off the same principle. Give car gas and air, it goes boom, car goes faster. I will give props to a fast car, regardless of whether it is a striped piece of sheet metal with a 20 hp weed-whacker as an engine, or a fully built 1000 hp viper. However one decides to go fast is there prerogative; just make sure you have the paper to back up the mouth.

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I'd be a little more ashamed of a heads and cam with a converter and gears that only runs low 12's than i would be of a full weight TA that runs 13.3's with only my two mods. Last time i checked most A4's with gears, full bolt on's, and a stall (as you have) were in the low 12's, and that's on stock heads and cam.

And where exactly is this supposed Vin Diesel poster that is in my room? i'm looking around, but can't seem to find it.
Yo bitch, I did this on street tires without stalling the converter. On slicks, it's mid 11's. I'll hook that up soon. Maybe you can give me some roadhead as I make the 11 second pass. On the bottle, my car will run 10's. There you have it. You will never be as fast as me. You'd be lucky to be as fast that Bullit bitch nobody likes.

Oh yeah, don't lie about Vin Diesel dude. You know you want him. You know you put it on your ceiling above your bed fruity-***. I have said it before and I will say it again,

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First off, DragonZ you kick *** bro.Secondly, the bottom line is that fast or not, at the end of the day would you rather be driving a bad *** piece of American muscle running nearly 12's stock with unlimited potential? Or driving a gay little four banger that sounds like a constipated moose with all the tourqe of a ten speed, designed for Japanese business men so that they may have an economical way to get to work. The main reason these little ricer tools drive these terd smugglin' vehicles is that they can't afford the insurance or payments and spend all their money on baggy pants, rhinestone studded thongs, and assorted lavender visors to wear backwards on their pea brained skulls. If all these little ***-clowning bitch boys would pull their skulls off of Vin Diesel's **** long enough to see the light, maybe they'd realize that they drive little girly cars, and more importantly, no one on this board gives a flyin' **** about Uncle Ben's.
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I'd be a little more ashamed of a heads and cam with a converter and gears that only runs low 12's than i would be of a full weight TA that runs 13.3's with only my two mods. Last time i checked most A4's with gears, full bolt on's, and a stall (as you have) were in the low 12's, and that's on stock heads and cam.

And where exactly is this supposed Vin Diesel poster that is in my room? i'm looking around, but can't seem to find it.
12.05 is a good time you ******* moron.
He has an 11.xx something car.
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If it is mid 11's on slicks (still not stellar for a heads and cam car) then why didn't you post the 11 second pass in your sig?? Oh, that's right, you haven't made the 11 second pass yet.
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And let's not have any "you ******* only run ******* 13.3's you ******* LS1 ricer driver ******, so don't ******* call him slow you ******* ******" i AM NOT saying i run 11's, i'm not saying i run 12's, I run 13.3's. All i am saying is that for his mods dragon's car is SLOW.
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Do you even know what your talking about TA TED. Have you ever driven an STI,EVO,SILVIA,MR2,SUPRA. I'm pretty sure all these cars are just as reliable at 400hp than any ls1. Does your car have forged internal? How about iron block? How about a crank that has been known to handle over 1000 hp?

Now I will not even bring up the fact that you have 5-600 lbs on half of these cars. Do you know what happens when you have weight+high center of gravity= one unstable car.

There was a poll taken not to long ago on which car would you rather have mr2,300z or vr4. Well see for yourself.

http://rx7club.com/forum/poll.php?s=...amp;pollid=657

http://rx7club.com/forum/showthread....p;pagenumber=2

Or how about mr2 or camaro.

http://rx7club.com/forum/showthread....hreadid=216373

It's kind of funny how 75% of the people would prefer an mr2 over an camaro. There is "NO" comparison in the two. The styling,handling,overall performance hands down goes to the mr2. O, have a nice day!
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25psi, that is, by far, the most scientific survey ever done. I am sure if you posed that same question on here, you would get the same results. Try it over at SVTPerformance or at CorvetteForum. I am sure you would get the same results. The only thing that proves is that 75% of the folks at RX7whatever.com. are gay.
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It is poll by "NONE" mr2 or camaro owners. You can say whatever you feel is necessary to contradict the poll. The point is, you where out voted.
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Margin of error +/- 99%
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Lol, here he comes, the gayest man of the hour. 25psi, your such a ****. Show me the MR2s running 5 second quartermiles, and I'll kiss your ***. What a joker.

Qwikfix is just another little riceburner in an F-body. I don't know why he didn't purchase an Integra/civic/crx/MR2/whatever, but he definitely deserves to drive one.

This board could be so much better without people like bullitt, 25psi, and qwikfix. But, then it definitely wouldn't be as fun.
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http://rx7club.com/forum/showthread....hreadid=216373

It's kind of funny how 75% of the people would prefer an mr2 over an camaro. There is "NO" comparison in the two. The styling,handling,overall performance hands down goes to the mr2. O, have a nice day!
Notice how the poll is based on an RX-7 site. If you put an MR2 vs Camaro poll on a Mustang forum, which car do you think would win? 25psi is always trying to run the same stupid bullshit by us...
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I was wondering where 25psi was ... it took him awhile.

As for QuickFix ... let me explain something to you. Bench racing is for ******* like yourself. There is no way, that you can say, for someones mods, your car is slow. Look at your car ... that is NOT fast by any means considering your mods. I have seen stock paper filter LS1's running 12.9-13.2's ... I watched a personal friend of mine in a 99Z run a 12.78 with lid and exaust. Now ... what does that mean? That means, your car is SLOW given it's mods.
Nobody on this board likes bench racing, especially bench racers that insult other LS1 drivers. Get 25psi and slow-integra's dick outta your ***, and let's all stop pointlessly insulting each other.

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25psi, that is, by far, the most scientific survey ever done. I am sure if you posed that same question on here, you would get the same results. Try it over at SVTPerformance or at CorvetteForum. I am sure you would get the same results. The only thing that proves is that 75% of the folks at RX7whatever.com. are gay.
It also proves that 95% of all statistics are made up. (<-----example this one) If you didnt notice 25psi a huge majority of the LS1s on the road are making between 300-400hp. In fact all stock LS1s are sitting in that range. So saying that a car built to drive at 400hp is less reliable at 400hp than a car built to drive at 200hp is ridiculous. You don't need forged pistons to run 400hp for several hundred thousands miles when you have 8 cylinders. Now maybe if it takes a blower or some juice to get you to 400hp you might consider forged internals. Plus after all the forged parts you put into you MR2 and up the boost enough to get 400hp you'll still end up replacing seals and transmissions just to stay at the LS1 performance level for 100,000 miles. Meanwhile a stock Z06 vette is chilling at 405 horse without problems for 300,000+ miles. Or a cam and heads 98 Z28 making 400 horse on stock pistons, block, crank, etc. lasting an easy 200,000 miles. Trying to compare the MR2 to an LS1 is like pissing into the wind. I mean come on you're smarter than that don't waste our time. What this MR2 crap has to do with an Integra I'll never know though.
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Super Mario, why don't you show me a stock ls1 block running 5's. Those motors have "ABSOLUTELY NOTHING" to do with a base ls1 powerplant. Yes it might utilize 8 cylinders, but by no means uses an ls1(5.7 liter) as its bases for making power.

Just becuase a cars "stock" hp rating are lower than the car I am comparing them too, doesn't make it any less of a performer. So are you saying an ss camaro can not perform with the likes of a Z06, or a dodge viper. I see people posting here all the times with kills against vipers. Would I be foolish to think you can't? Of course not!
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And let's not have any "you ******* only run ******* 13.3's you ******* LS1 ricer driver ******, so don't ******* call him slow you ******* ******" i AM NOT saying i run 11's, i'm not saying i run 12's, I run 13.3's. All i am saying is that for his mods dragon's car is SLOW.
I'll say it again milky licker. I do not even know what the car is truly capable of since I have never ran it on slicks. If you call an 11 second car slow(10secs on the bottle), then you would have to call a twin turbo Supra slow for needing a TT setup for running 10's or 11's. Look ********** it doesn't matter what parts you have, or how much it costs, a fast car is a fast car.

I would bust your *** any day of the week effortlessly. I could spin by you. So bottom line is, my car is fast enough to slaughter punk ******* ricers like you, and at the end of the day, that satisfies me. No one on this discussion likes, or agrees with you except Bullit. Doesn't that say something to you?

Quit worshipping ricers and flaming domestics. 13.3's man, come on. Let me show you slow. Walk outside and look in your driveway. No, not the Volvo, that weak piece of **** of a Trans Am next to it. You stupid ************.

By the way, Super Mario, you da ****.
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Let me say it again for you...

Show me the MR2s running 5 second quartermiles, and I'll kiss your ***.
Or, show me a car that has anything to do with an MR2 running 5s, and my lips will touch your *** cheeks.
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Dragon, you are an idiot. You haven't made one logical comment that required any possible thought process in this entire thread. Do you honestly think that by calling me oh so hurtful names you are hurting my self esteem? YOU are the person in this arguement using the closest thing to ricer logic. You came in here and busted someone's *** because they claimed to beat LS1's, and hage with Z06's. You assumed that because it has 4 cylinder's it can't beat an LS1, well guess what, i can go out and find any number of STREET DRIVEN 4 cylinder's taht would hand you your *** in their STOCK configuration, and hand ANY car with an LS1 based engine on this board their own *** with a boosted engine. I am not flaming domesics, your logic seems to be a little off. Because i can respect an import i must hate domestics, and be a ricer at heart that drives a domestic (even though it really isn't) car? Here's an idea, try using that ball of grey **** inside your head. I know it may take a little more time to think of something intelligent than to just call me a **********, a ricer, and any other possible name with some form of profanity in it, but to the few people on this section of the board that DO have a brain (and they seem to be few and far between) you may actually gain a shred of their respect by at elast atempting to sound intelligent. You also may want to learn how to read before you put my scren name into your profle, and imply that you have "owned" me.

Something else, i am calling bullshit on your mods, and times. I highly doubt there is a single person on this board that has taken the time, and money to build a heads and cam car and not put a somewhat decent tire under it first. At least a set of DR's or something. So here it is for you

And lastly, why do something so ricer-like as to call nitrous nitro?? Last tme I checked nitro was a fuel, not a power adder.
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i don't know of any stock 4bangers that run 11s?
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