Complete suspension package?
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Staging Lane
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Complete suspension package? With my tax return I would like to purchase a complete suspension upgrade for my car. Any suggestions. 2000 Z28 6 speed. It is mainly a weekend vehicle with an occasional SCCA event.
I'm looking for everything. struts, sway bars, strut towers, springs. etc.
I'm looking for everything. struts, sway bars, strut towers, springs. etc.
Springs and Shocks go Koni 4/4 and sam strano springs 1.2 in drop=$1,250
UMI double adjustbale PHB and LCA=$365
UMI STB=$80.00
UMI weld in SFCS=$160
Torque Arm=$400
LS1 UMI front end kit stage 6=$1,577.50
UMI lower control arm brackets bolt-in=$90.00
Grand Total=$3,922.50
UMI double adjustbale PHB and LCA=$365
UMI STB=$80.00
UMI weld in SFCS=$160
Torque Arm=$400
LS1 UMI front end kit stage 6=$1,577.50
UMI lower control arm brackets bolt-in=$90.00
Grand Total=$3,922.50
I suggest shocks first (as suggested), but he forgot Sam's bars. They are awesome. You may get shocks and bars on the car and be happy as a clam.
I personally would not do the K member and a-arms, but make sure you do bars along with shocks. Shocks alone will make it a new car!
I personally would not do the K member and a-arms, but make sure you do bars along with shocks. Shocks alone will make it a new car!
Hello Springs and Shocks go Koni 4/4 and sam strano springs 1.2 in drop=$1,250
UMI double adjustbale PHB and LCA=$365
UMI STB=$80.00
UMI weld in SFCS=$160
Torque Arm=$400
LS1 UMI front end kit stage 6=$1,577.50
UMI lower control arm brackets bolt-in=$90.00
Grand Total=$3,922.50
UMI double adjustbale PHB and LCA=$365
UMI STB=$80.00
UMI weld in SFCS=$160
Torque Arm=$400
LS1 UMI front end kit stage 6=$1,577.50
UMI lower control arm brackets bolt-in=$90.00
Grand Total=$3,922.50
http://umiperformance.com/
Thanks Again
Brad
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1. If you do intend on attending an SCCA event, are you readily familiar with what rules and classes may apply? How much experience at "driving events" have you had?
2. I take it that you're trying to improve your cars performance, but are you aware that it's not just about how much, but where you modify? You don't mind that you'll be spending lots of money on certain items that may not even help, and maybe hinder your performance?
Not trying to condescend or discourage you, but modifying a car to "perform better" should be well thought out.
From the experience of myself and a few others around this board, it really doesn't take much to modify these cars for a substantial performance gain. Definitely go and read the stickies as much as possible because if you being to get serious about performance, you'll regret spending more money than necessary.
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As usual Foxxtron and I see things pretty much the same way.
Many here can help you with parts. Not many here are as into turning, or have the background in handling I have. I think some of the things on blk97z28's list are definites. I also think a number of things are not and in fact could well work against you or be of no help to a car meant to turn. Knowing a budget would help (don't worry even when I'm given huge numbers I only use what we need) because then we can pick the best parts to fix the biggest issues under your cap.
I'll tell you right now the "big 3" are shocks, springs, swaybars. I have no issue with changing LCA's, K-member, PHB's, and all that and often we should. But just as often folks do it when they shouldn't--in so far as they aren't the right parts for a handling job.
My Camaro has won more than a few National Championships--and on WAY stickier tires than even the best true street tire. I do not have a lot of the parts mentioned above. Some I've not been able to run due to rule, some I wouldn't anyway.
Many here can help you with parts. Not many here are as into turning, or have the background in handling I have. I think some of the things on blk97z28's list are definites. I also think a number of things are not and in fact could well work against you or be of no help to a car meant to turn. Knowing a budget would help (don't worry even when I'm given huge numbers I only use what we need) because then we can pick the best parts to fix the biggest issues under your cap.
I'll tell you right now the "big 3" are shocks, springs, swaybars. I have no issue with changing LCA's, K-member, PHB's, and all that and often we should. But just as often folks do it when they shouldn't--in so far as they aren't the right parts for a handling job.
My Camaro has won more than a few National Championships--and on WAY stickier tires than even the best true street tire. I do not have a lot of the parts mentioned above. Some I've not been able to run due to rule, some I wouldn't anyway.
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As usual Foxxtron and I see things pretty much the same way.
Many here can help you with parts. Not many here are as into turning, or have the background in handling I have. I think some of the things on blk97z28's list are definites. I also think a number of things are not and in fact could well work against you or be of no help to a car meant to turn. Knowing a budget would help (don't worry even when I'm given huge numbers I only use what we need) because then we can pick the best parts to fix the biggest issues under your cap.
I'll tell you right now the "big 3" are shocks, springs, swaybars. I have no issue with changing LCA's, K-member, PHB's, and all that and often we should. But just as often folks do it when they shouldn't--in so far as they aren't the right parts for a handling job.
My Camaro has won more than a few National Championships--and on WAY stickier tires than even the best true street tire. I do not have a lot of the parts mentioned above. Some I've not been able to run due to rule, some I wouldn't anyway.
Many here can help you with parts. Not many here are as into turning, or have the background in handling I have. I think some of the things on blk97z28's list are definites. I also think a number of things are not and in fact could well work against you or be of no help to a car meant to turn. Knowing a budget would help (don't worry even when I'm given huge numbers I only use what we need) because then we can pick the best parts to fix the biggest issues under your cap.
I'll tell you right now the "big 3" are shocks, springs, swaybars. I have no issue with changing LCA's, K-member, PHB's, and all that and often we should. But just as often folks do it when they shouldn't--in so far as they aren't the right parts for a handling job.
My Camaro has won more than a few National Championships--and on WAY stickier tires than even the best true street tire. I do not have a lot of the parts mentioned above. Some I've not been able to run due to rule, some I wouldn't anyway.
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I have competed in quite a few races with a 2000 gt mustang that had a similar set up, springs, struts, sway bars in the modified class. That car is gone and this ls1 is taking its place. I probably will take part in 6 events each summer give or take a few. I would like something well rounded. I don't want to lower the car much more, however I do know that will help handling as well. I'm thinking a nice shock, spring & swaybar package to start with. Something that can be added to each year. I would like everything to match and work together.
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I like the BMR level 2 kit. However, the car came with an adj panhard & lower control arms. I guess I could sell those. There is less than 2500 miles on them. Would it be necessary to change them out?
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I have competed in quite a few races with a 2000 gt mustang that had a similar set up, springs, struts, sway bars in the modified class. That car is gone and this ls1 is taking its place. I probably will take part in 6 events each summer give or take a few. I would like something well rounded. I don't want to lower the car much more, however I do know that will help handling as well. I'm thinking a nice shock, spring & swaybar package to start with. Something that can be added to each year. I would like everything to match and work together.
The first and biggest things to do to these cars is get rid of the the stock DeCrappy shocks. Konis are the primo shocks to go with even if you have 3X the money to spend on Penskes.
Bigger bars are next and balance is the key. 35/22 is very neutral and greatly reduces body roll even over a SS/WS6 (32/19 IIRC) bar package. I like Strano bars because they are lighter than solids and reduce unsprung weight.
Springs would be the next biggest difference maker and there are a few good ones out there and LOTS of CRAPPY ones so research this well. I am VERY happy with my Stranos and again they are lighter than any other out there (special alloy) and reduce unsprung weight.
There are many other upgrades that can be done but these three will by far make the biggest difference in your cars handling and are what I would do first.
EDIT: BTW STB's are a waste on an f-body. You might wanna throw SFC's in the mix somewhere then if you get really hardcore start looking at CA's, k-members etc...
Depending on where the OP decides to compete within the SCCA, it may be wise just to really be careful with those items as we still could use more information from him on which competition class to campaign in.
