Pictures of my new Founders suspension!
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Yea I see that. My point was I just don't see how they could be making much money. Add up the material there, even poly bushings in their LCA's, and they must be working for $10 an hour labor.
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Lol, if you would step off your ego riden pride box for a minute and actually R-E-A-D someone's post instead of taking your usual defensive position, it would be clearly understood that when I said "I get it", I was referring to spending the money for the "good stuff".
To go one further...."delivery" was in reference to...well...you. Like I said, feathers arent ruffled, just please keep the entertainment fresh.
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Look not trying to be a dick but to say that going with something that has been proven to work over something that has been proven to not work is "just following the crowd" is just silly, and taking jabs at the people who are just making a simple recommendation.
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Im intrigued, can you explain what "argument" is one dimensional exactly? Is it so one dimensional that I recommend a set of Bilstiens, KYB's, Konis or custom valved shocks over a set of autozone shocks for a nice car that has a decent amount of money already into the suspension? (and shocks can certainly make or break a setup) and no - im not talking about performance, im talking about ride quality and feel.
Im sorry you interpret it that way but im certainly not on any "ego-box", Im simply giving tech support on a tech forum. It seems some (you included, otherwise we wouldn't be having this conversation) get butt hurt if someone recommends something you don't want to hear.
Sorry, next time Ill skip the logic and technical side and just say "Nice car, have fun with it!" Because clearly there are no room for opinions or advice here. Thank god back in the day when I was searching for suspension advice people were able to voice their opinions without being flammed.
Im sorry you interpret it that way but im certainly not on any "ego-box", Im simply giving tech support on a tech forum. It seems some (you included, otherwise we wouldn't be having this conversation) get butt hurt if someone recommends something you don't want to hear.
Sorry, next time Ill skip the logic and technical side and just say "Nice car, have fun with it!" Because clearly there are no room for opinions or advice here. Thank god back in the day when I was searching for suspension advice people were able to voice their opinions without being flammed.
You have soooooo missed the point (yes, there was one in there) I would hope that we can agree its pretty much worthless to continue this. I'll stay in my "follower" world (lol, btw) and you keep driving in circles in vacant school parking lots. No sense in trashin' up OP's thread....anymore than we have. Truce?
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so... does eBay really have electric superchargers? I hear they require a larger alternator - any truth to this? Maybe I can gain more power if I install recharging brakes like the Volt has??? I have a good amount of electrical tape, so I think I'm set there...
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Wasn't looking for advice ![Winky](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_wink.gif)
Just wanted to share, what I thought was a positive experience with Founders Performance. First reply, and most there after were thrashing my decisions on parts because they felt the need to flex their keyboard muscles... not necessary![Grin](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_grin.gif)
I wish some of you guys would go buy some mustangs, because you're really tarnishing the reputation of fbody owners and true car enthusiats
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Just wanted to share, what I thought was a positive experience with Founders Performance. First reply, and most there after were thrashing my decisions on parts because they felt the need to flex their keyboard muscles... not necessary
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I wish some of you guys would go buy some mustangs, because you're really tarnishing the reputation of fbody owners and true car enthusiats
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You have soooooo missed the point (yes, there was one in there) I would hope that we can agree its pretty much worthless to continue this. I'll stay in my "follower" world (lol, btw) and you keep driving in circles in vacant school parking lots. No sense in trashin' up OP's thread....anymore than we have. Truce?
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OP regardless of the parts used, you have a very clean good looking car
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How about stop shitting in the OP's thread with back and forth bickering. This is happening too much here.
I asked the question earlier, I'll try again.. Since people typically do not recommend poly/poly LCAs due to binding, what about poly/poly panhard rods? I have a poly/poly on-car UMI adjustable panhard rod, and stock LCAs. I DO plan to get roto/rod ended LCAs, but I'm curious did I take a suspension performance loss going with poly/poly panhard? UMI actually recommended I go with poly/poly and not the rod or roto joint end. It seemed as if it doesn't make much difference on the PHR, but I have never read anything indicating it is good or bad...
I asked the question earlier, I'll try again.. Since people typically do not recommend poly/poly LCAs due to binding, what about poly/poly panhard rods? I have a poly/poly on-car UMI adjustable panhard rod, and stock LCAs. I DO plan to get roto/rod ended LCAs, but I'm curious did I take a suspension performance loss going with poly/poly panhard? UMI actually recommended I go with poly/poly and not the rod or roto joint end. It seemed as if it doesn't make much difference on the PHR, but I have never read anything indicating it is good or bad...
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How about stop shitting in the OP's thread with back and forth bickering. This is happening too much here.
I asked the question earlier, I'll try again.. Since people typically do not recommend poly/poly LCAs due to binding, what about poly/poly panhard rods? I have a poly/poly on-car UMI adjustable panhard rod, and stock LCAs. I DO plan to get roto/rod ended LCAs, but I'm curious did I take a suspension performance loss going with poly/poly panhard? UMI actually recommended I go with poly/poly and not the rod or roto joint end. It seemed as if it doesn't make much difference on the PHR, but I have never read anything indicating it is good or bad...
I asked the question earlier, I'll try again.. Since people typically do not recommend poly/poly LCAs due to binding, what about poly/poly panhard rods? I have a poly/poly on-car UMI adjustable panhard rod, and stock LCAs. I DO plan to get roto/rod ended LCAs, but I'm curious did I take a suspension performance loss going with poly/poly panhard? UMI actually recommended I go with poly/poly and not the rod or roto joint end. It seemed as if it doesn't make much difference on the PHR, but I have never read anything indicating it is good or bad...
I haven't heard many people (if any) complain about the ride with a rod/rod PHB however.
EDIT: I should add, when I say articulate, I mean twist as z28bryan said
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How about stop shitting in the OP's thread with back and forth bickering. This is happening too much here.
I asked the question earlier, I'll try again.. Since people typically do not recommend poly/poly LCAs due to binding, what about poly/poly panhard rods? I have a poly/poly on-car UMI adjustable panhard rod, and stock LCAs. I DO plan to get roto/rod ended LCAs, but I'm curious did I take a suspension performance loss going with poly/poly panhard? UMI actually recommended I go with poly/poly and not the rod or roto joint end. It seemed as if it doesn't make much difference on the PHR, but I have never read anything indicating it is good or bad...
I asked the question earlier, I'll try again.. Since people typically do not recommend poly/poly LCAs due to binding, what about poly/poly panhard rods? I have a poly/poly on-car UMI adjustable panhard rod, and stock LCAs. I DO plan to get roto/rod ended LCAs, but I'm curious did I take a suspension performance loss going with poly/poly panhard? UMI actually recommended I go with poly/poly and not the rod or roto joint end. It seemed as if it doesn't make much difference on the PHR, but I have never read anything indicating it is good or bad...
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These guys are right Sensatracs suck. Those grooves they are talking about, monroe calls it there groove tub technology and its so the at normal ride height there are grooves in cylinder around the piston to allow oil to bypass the piston so there is little to no resistance in the first x amount of travel.
So think about it they take a shock, which is supposed to dampen spring movement, and literally take the dampening out of it for certain conditions.
So they dont perform, plus I've had quality control issues, where the metal boot rubs the shock, leaks after just a short time, and ive had them where the ride so ridiculously rough to the point where it feels like a frozen shock right out of the box.
Ive sold and installed them for a long time, and I always recommend a different option to customers.
So think about it they take a shock, which is supposed to dampen spring movement, and literally take the dampening out of it for certain conditions.
So they dont perform, plus I've had quality control issues, where the metal boot rubs the shock, leaks after just a short time, and ive had them where the ride so ridiculously rough to the point where it feels like a frozen shock right out of the box.
Ive sold and installed them for a long time, and I always recommend a different option to customers.