Suspension & Brakes Springs | Shocks | Handling | Rotors

Whats the deal with Roto Joints? opinions

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-27-2011, 06:40 PM
  #1  
TECH Addict
Thread Starter
iTrader: (18)
 
Badazz 97 TA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Arizona
Posts: 2,171
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default Whats the deal with Roto Joints? opinions

I currently have UMI single rod ended LCA's and panhard bar on my car. I can tell my passenger LCA rod is worn out. So im thinking of just swapping to the roto joints. Been searching around the site for opinions. Not much came up. Some say there quiet others say there noisy and wore out quickly. I know there somewhat new design so there wasnt alot of long term opinions out there.


so whats the deal. Are they worth the $50/piece to upgrade? just trying to justify the purchase with real world results before i decide.

Do you like them?
How are they holding up?
How many miles do you have on them?
Noisy, quiet?
Do you have to tighten them alot?
Old 08-28-2011, 10:02 AM
  #2  
TECH Addict
Thread Starter
iTrader: (18)
 
Badazz 97 TA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Arizona
Posts: 2,171
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

ttt. Anyone with the roto joints on their car?
Old 08-28-2011, 02:15 PM
  #3  
12 Second Club
iTrader: (3)
 
spy2520's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Waldorf, MD
Posts: 3,513
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

i just installed my roto-joint panhard bar a few weeks ago so i cant tell you about how they wear out but definitely not noisy.
Old 08-28-2011, 03:11 PM
  #4  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (5)
 
Blu99T/A's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Florida
Posts: 642
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

I have had mine for about a year now with zero complaints. I think it drives better than with the solid tubular LCA's I had with poly ends.
I have UMI's LCA's with the roto-joints.
Old 08-28-2011, 04:20 PM
  #5  
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (1)
 
leadfoot4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Webster, NY
Posts: 4,611
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Badazz 97 TA
ttt. Anyone with the roto joints on their car?
I bought a pair of aftermarket rear LCAs, with the "Johnny Joints" on both ends, in an effort to correct a slight thrust angle situation with my '96 Z-28. They did an admirable job for that. However, I found them pretty "non-compliant" for street use, so I took them off the car (and actually, would like to sell them).

FWIW, the roads are pretty rough where I live...
Old 08-29-2011, 08:19 AM
  #6  
FormerVendor
iTrader: (77)
 
UMI Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Philipsburg, Pa
Posts: 5,473
Received 5 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

The Roto-Joint shouldn't add any noise to the vehicle and will not wear quickly.

However this is a semi-solid joint, the rubber bushing is replaced with a spherical ball that rides in a Delrin lining. The Delrin will absorb some hit but not like a rubber bushing does. You will feel more with this set up more then what a rubber bushing offers, your tolerance to this depends on roads, other vehicle mods and overall what you want to feel from the vehicle. For example I have had the same rod ends on the front of my vehicle since August 2006 and I have encountered 30,000 miles over this time period. They still feel and sound the same as day one and I don't notice them much. I do keep the underneath of my car clean and lube them when its on the rack. A lot of time harshness from a solid end gets mix up with noise I feel.

I run Roto-Joints on the rear suspension and find them to be unnoticed.

I hope this helps,
Ryan
Old 08-31-2011, 02:11 PM
  #7  
TECH Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
bones_c's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Killeen, TX
Posts: 493
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

What are the advantages of the rotojoint?
Old 08-31-2011, 02:13 PM
  #8  
FormerVendor
iTrader: (77)
 
UMI Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Philipsburg, Pa
Posts: 5,473
Received 5 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by bones_c
What are the advantages of the rotojoint?
Please read the link below, if you have any additional questions after that I will be glad to help

http://www.umiperformance.com/catalo...age=roto_joint
Old 08-31-2011, 04:50 PM
  #9  
Copy & Paste Moderator
 
VIP1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Eastern MA
Posts: 9,716
Likes: 0
Received 187 Likes on 141 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by bones_c
What are the advantages of the rotojoint?
UMI's roto-joint is essentially a newer generation of the Johnny Joint which is made by Currie.

Google "Johnny Joint". The first hit should be Currie's page. Watch the video for an excellent description and demonstration.

UMI's version:
- Uses Delrin bushing instead of poly
- Ball is chrome moly instead of heat treated steel
- Uses screw-on side with lock screw instead of snap-ring

IMHO, the UMI version is better because of the above differences.
- Delrin is a better bushing material for this application than poly
- Chrome moly is stronger
- The screw-on side allows you to tighten the joint as parts wear.

However, the Johnny Joint's bushing has holes to allow grease to get in, which is a nice addition to make sure grease gets in between the ball and bushing when you grease it via the zerk fitting.

Last edited by VIP1; 08-31-2011 at 04:56 PM.



Quick Reply: Whats the deal with Roto Joints? opinions



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:55 AM.