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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 03:03 PM
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Don't be afraid to look at Midwest Chassis suspension items. We offer them in Chromemoly and Aluminum for those guys looking to shave some extra weight. LCA can be purchased with offset bushings and we drill one of our chassis bushings to accept the factory bolt for the PHB. This way you can reuse a factory bolt and everything fits snug with out slop. Something else you don't see from many other manufactures is we anti seize the heim joints before we ship them out the door. That is just part of that extra step we try to go to make instal easier for our customers.

Our prices already beat the competition but if you purchase a PHB and LCA at the same time we will make you a package deal.







We can do poly ends or a combination of poly heim but we prefer the use of a good quality heim joint for it's performance benefits. No matter which way you set them up we can make them on car adjustable.
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 05:40 PM
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I didnt know you made em in aluminum? What kind of weight difference is there between the chromoly, and aluminum? Is there any advantage/disadvantage to the Al, besides weight reduction?
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 07:58 PM
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How much for the LCA's? You can PM me if you don't want to list the prices.
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by NVR_SPDS
I didnt know you made em in aluminum? What kind of weight difference is there between the chromoly, and aluminum? Is there any advantage/disadvantage to the Al, besides weight reduction?
The advantage is weight savings, disadvantage would be over all longevity of life and that they are for off road use only. As for weight savings I'm not so sure I can even get our scale to get a reading off of them.
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 10:10 AM
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MWC LCA made from C/M is $225 shipped

MWC PHB made from C/M is $175 shipped

Purchase them together and they are $375 shipped

This for double adjustable with heim joints on both ends.
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 11:14 AM
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I will definitely be getting ahold of you for some suspension parts!
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 11:28 AM
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No problem, we offer many different things.

Our web site has been going through some changes be sure to check it out.
www.midwestchassis.com
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 12:31 PM
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Are you only making them in adjustable? I'm not really sure I need the adjustability, but I'd like to upgrade the crap stockers
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 12:59 PM
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These guys put out a great product. I just bought a tq arm/dsl for my true dual setup and I was very impressed with the quality work that they have done on it. The customer service is top notch as well. Jason took the time to answer my questions and point me in the right direction and will definetly be getting my business for all my suspension components.
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 2QuikTA
Are you only making them in adjustable? I'm not really sure I need the adjustability, but I'd like to upgrade the crap stockers
We can make anything someone wants that is not an issue, the difference is we just prefer to manufacture items that serve a purpose for the money our customers spend.

Trust me when I say there is always a purpose for adjustable suspension. With that said and you are still interested in non adjustable parts PM me and we can figure something out for you.
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SCott5
These guys put out a great product. I just bought a tq arm/dsl for my true dual setup and I was very impressed with the quality work that they have done on it. The customer service is top notch as well. Jason took the time to answer my questions and point me in the right direction and will definetly be getting my business for all my suspension components.
Thank you very much for the kind words. I rather enjoy taking the time talking to people.
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 06:23 PM
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What's the advantage of adjustable LCA's?
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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 07:59 PM
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From everything I've read, adjustments become necessary as you change the geometry of your car's suspension by lowering with different springs. If you plan to keep the stock springs, or maintain the stock ride height, I think you can get buy with non-adjustable parts. Not sure if a 12 bolt or other mods can require an adjustable panhard or not.

I bought non-adjustable stuff because I don't intend to lower the car. You can save a lot of money and still get improved rigidity, better bushings, and a weight reduction.

If you're planning on doing autoX competitions or something like that, adjustability is also nice to fine tune any adverse handling issues. But if that's the case, you probably already have something besides stock springs, too.

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Old Dec 17, 2011 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 2QuikTA
What's the advantage of adjustable LCA's?
The Adjustable LCAs allow you to center the wheel front to back in the wheel well. This comes in handy if you decide to run a bigger/taller tire out back.

Originally Posted by Capricio
From everything I've read, adjustments become necessary as you change the geometry of your car's suspension by lowering with different springs. If you plan to keep the stock springs, or maintain the stock ride height, I think you can get buy with non-adjustable parts. Not sure if a 12 bolt or other mods can require an adjustable panhard or not.

I bought non-adjustable stuff because I don't intend to lower the car. You can save a lot of money and still get improved rigidity, better bushings, and a weight reduction.

If you're planning on doing autoX competitions or something like that, adjustability is also nice to fine tune any adverse handling issues. But if that's the case, you probably already have something besides stock springs, too.
They arent just meant for when you lower your car. My car is stock height, I still needed the adjustable parts, especially when I put on my widened wheels, and 315s.
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Old Dec 17, 2011 | 09:37 AM
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^^^ True dat.

These cars are pretty close from the factory, but if you want it right then the adjustable is the way to go for sure. Can't tell you how many times we have sold customers adjustable parts when they already had an aftermarket component on the car.

The adjustable is almost a must if you have LCA relocators and 9 out of 10 cars on the alignment rack could stand to have a thrust angle or track adjustment. I can almost guarantee if you install a set of relocators that the alignment will change.

It's more of a doing it right the first time thing... why spend money twice?
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Old Dec 17, 2011 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ssvert99
The adjustable is almost a must if you have LCA relocators and 9 out of 10 cars on the alignment rack could stand to have a thrust angle or track adjustment. I can almost guarantee if you install a set of relocators that the alignment will change.
Kind of a newb question, but what causes this? I just got some LCA brackets today and I'd like to throw them on the car. I have stock LCA's for now, will that cause a problem or would I just need to get it aligned after the install?
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Old Dec 17, 2011 | 05:09 PM
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Any one want to buy the stock lca and panhard bar from me. They are about the same jkidding mwc=god of suspension!
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Originally Posted by fly boy_1
Kind of a newb question, but what causes this? I just got some LCA brackets today and I'd like to throw them on the car. I have stock LCA's for now, will that cause a problem or would I just need to get it aligned after the install?


I could go on forever about why, but down to the point you should just have the alignment checked. The numbers will tell you if you will need an adjustment that isn't available with stock or non adjustable components.

I do not suggest the use of a bolt-on lca relocator due to the fact there will be some movement no matter how it is mounted, especially in a car that sees hard launches or track time. I would put some welds on a set that has been bolted on if already installed but the extra cost of the bolt-on style just isn't worth it in the end.

And to add to the wheel alignment issue there is a good possibility that your pinion angle will need adjustments after the relocators as well... another reason the adjustable components is a god idea right from the start... why spend money twice?
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 11:11 AM
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Put my order in today. Very nice folks over at MWC.
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by MidwestChassis
MWC LCA made from C/M is $225 shipped

MWC PHB made from C/M is $175 shipped

Purchase them together and they are $375 shipped

This for double adjustable with heim joints on both ends.
Great prices Eric! Parts lookin' good.
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