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Old 01-13-2013, 06:01 PM
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I am going to do a complete suspension mod to my SS but i dont really know where to start. i will do the rear first and then mod my way to the front, but should i start with LCA's or a PHB?
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What do you want out of the car? (drag, handling, ride comfort?)
What mods do you currently have?
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Those two items are, in my book, the two least important.
But near cheapest, easy and independent of other mods,
which I guess is why they seem to get priority.

Unless you're really throwing it around hard corners on
primo rubber with everything else set up, the stock
Panhard is not limiting you.

I also noticed trivial improvement or none, from LCA
swappage.

Rubber bits aside, these are not parts that wear and
you can (I did) pick up perfectly serviceable ones
used (in my case, the rubber was fine too).
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i say do both
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Get lower control arms
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LCAs will help keep your rear wheels planted to the ground. Do those first. You can get a really cheap Ph rod at founders performance if your opting for both.
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LCA first but PHR right behind it.If you lower your car, the panhard rod (double adjustable) would help you line up your rear again.

Like others said, the LCA will help you plant them meats but the PHR will allow you to properly center your rear.
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With the cost of Founders products, I would do both the LCA and PHB.
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In my opinion, LCA's seem to be heavily misunderstood. LCA relocation brackets are one thing because they change the LCA angle creating more anti squat or correcting the suspension geometry. But going from stock LCAs to aftermarket ones... I don't get the benefit. I doubt most people are using the stock arms hard enough where the stock bushings are flexing that much on them.

I believe 95% of the people on here changing to aftermarket LCA's won't notice much significant improvement. With wheel hop, put on some shocks that actually control the suspension and/or do some LCA relo brackets. Keep the stock arms and preserve the better daily driveability benefit of the rubber bushings.
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I agree....I have after market LCA's and relo brackets and it drove hard on the rear and came out from under me in sharp curves. I replaced the poly bushing in my LCA's and moved the arms to the upper hole on my relo brackets and its a night and day difference.
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Originally Posted by stroked383HSR
I agree....I have after market LCA's and relo brackets and it drove hard on the rear and came out from under me in sharp curves. I replaced the poly bushing in my LCA's and moved the arms to the upper hole on my relo brackets and its a night and day difference.
If the LCA's were angled upward quite a bit from axle to car (back to front), then the rear coming out was probably caused by roll induced oversteer. What happens is due to the geometry of the angle when the car is in a roll, it causes the axle to point the rear wheels away from the turn.



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