Camber question
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Camber question So my tires has been wearing the inner side of my fronts 245/35ZR18’s. Had the alignment checked today and it is dead on. Last alignment was 2 months ago. Nothing has shifted since then. Tech said I needed to get a camber kit in order to solve the problem in the future. I told him (owner of a turbo civic) I dont run Vtec, our cars dont have camber kits. Just concerned what step I should take next.
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Agreed with above. Although having multiple alignments done can be expensive. Which is why I've started getting the stuff to do it at home. Not too difficult. The last alignment shop I went to didn't know how to adjust camber, I had to correct him. It's like everyone is forgetting how to align front engine rear drive cars, or at least F-bodies.
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this may have less to do with camber and more to do with toe...toe out will kill the inner portion of your tires in very short order...even as much as a 1/16th toe out.
i had the same issue...didn't want to keep paying for alignments so i bought a camber/caster gauge, tiles and some toe plates...and do it myself.
google and youtube are your friend.
i had the same issue...didn't want to keep paying for alignments so i bought a camber/caster gauge, tiles and some toe plates...and do it myself.
google and youtube are your friend.
If you can, post your alignment settings.....and without seeing them, I'd be inclined to agree with "brigade24". You toe settings are off.
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agreed if your wearing your tires it can not be dead on it could be the specs for your car in the machine may not work with your car if its dropped modded in anyway you need a kit to bring it back up to spec.try doing it with the weight of a driver in the front seat, just a thought .
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it is not a toe setting it is a camber issue caster will not wear tires just cause a pull ,toe will cause wear but it will cause wear across the whole tire and the tread will look messed up and can also looked chopped across it toe will wear tires the most but not just on the outer edge its a camber issue period..you can either get a plate for the top of the strut or aftermarket control arms ..just a thought the tire size in the front can cause it if you haven't set up and made a correction in ride height, i aligned cars on and off for 20 yrs while doing other things....
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+2... what is "dead on"? It could also read ok statically, but if you have trashed lower control arm bushings (particularly the rear) or tie-rods, etc. what is happening dynamically could be very different.
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Dead on to factory numbers doesn't mean right for how
you're modded and how you drive.
I get about -1 degree of camber and it gives me nice
even wear in "enthusiastic" street driving.
Never needed a camber kit. But I do have an aftermarket
K-member - whether or not that matters, I couldn't say
because I did the lowering at the same time and had not
gotten a performance alignment prior.
you're modded and how you drive.
I get about -1 degree of camber and it gives me nice
even wear in "enthusiastic" street driving.
Never needed a camber kit. But I do have an aftermarket
K-member - whether or not that matters, I couldn't say
because I did the lowering at the same time and had not
gotten a performance alignment prior.
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Ok no problem, ill print one out thursday. IIRC I cant recall the degree, but both bar graphs were dead in the middle. No degree in difference as far as the toe, the same applies for what the camber was reading. Im running after market 18 inch wheels. And notices when I turn the steering wheel the angle of the wheel changes. That could explain one reason why the inner is wearing out. To answer the question in post #2 If I remember the original owner told me all springs were cut an inch off. So no not stock suspension. Other than that stock shocks, springs, struts, ect.
Ahh, the lean you see as you turn is normal, it's camber gain from caster. Lowering the car will gain you negative camber vs. a stock height car.
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My tires lean in. (camber)
When I bought the car it was lowered on decarbons and heated eBay springs. I literally dragged the air dam before I changed the setup. V6 springs and decarbons til tomorrow. Anyways. They lean in noticeably. Passenger is worse than driver. Might be a bent spindle. It's getting replaced along with adjustable uppers to help with camber. Now that y'all know my story..
Why is the outside of my tires bald but the inside looks great? I'd figure with stupid camber the insides would wear not the outsides.
Not thread jacking just asking since my problem is similar but opposite side of the tire wears.
When I bought the car it was lowered on decarbons and heated eBay springs. I literally dragged the air dam before I changed the setup. V6 springs and decarbons til tomorrow. Anyways. They lean in noticeably. Passenger is worse than driver. Might be a bent spindle. It's getting replaced along with adjustable uppers to help with camber. Now that y'all know my story..
Why is the outside of my tires bald but the inside looks great? I'd figure with stupid camber the insides would wear not the outsides.
Not thread jacking just asking since my problem is similar but opposite side of the tire wears.
My tires lean in. (camber)
When I bought the car it was lowered on decarbons and heated eBay springs. I literally dragged the air dam before I changed the setup. V6 springs and decarbons til tomorrow. Anyways. They lean in noticeably. Passenger is worse than driver. Might be a bent spindle. It's getting replaced along with adjustable uppers to help with camber. Now that y'all know my story..
Why is the outside of my tires bald but the inside looks great? I'd figure with stupid camber the insides would wear not the outsides.
Not thread jacking just asking since my problem is similar but opposite side of the tire wears.
When I bought the car it was lowered on decarbons and heated eBay springs. I literally dragged the air dam before I changed the setup. V6 springs and decarbons til tomorrow. Anyways. They lean in noticeably. Passenger is worse than driver. Might be a bent spindle. It's getting replaced along with adjustable uppers to help with camber. Now that y'all know my story..
Why is the outside of my tires bald but the inside looks great? I'd figure with stupid camber the insides would wear not the outsides.
Not thread jacking just asking since my problem is similar but opposite side of the tire wears.
however as to your outside wear I think you have a bad TOE IN setting.
yes stupid - camber will give you some inside wear, but TOE is your big wear factor.
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I think the passenger is a bent spindle. As it's way worse than the drivers side. Previous owner drove the car out to rigs and down oil field roads. Dumbass 
But I don't like the stock height and will be installing bilstein/strano setup tomorrow along with a new passenger spindle and adjustable uppers. I figured since there will be some slight camber on a lowered car the adjustables would help correct it. Or am I wrong?
But I don't like the stock height and will be installing bilstein/strano setup tomorrow along with a new passenger spindle and adjustable uppers. I figured since there will be some slight camber on a lowered car the adjustables would help correct it. Or am I wrong?
You don't need adjustable arms to align a car with Strano springs. If you were dropping like 2+ inches then yeah you might, or if you were going for some wild alignment for specific road coursing yeah you might, but a street car no.
Also, I would expect the alignment to just be knocked way out vs a bent spindle. The alignment points will shift easier than bending that big hunk of metal, plus it usually takes a direct hit to the spindle to bend it.
Also, I would expect the alignment to just be knocked way out vs a bent spindle. The alignment points will shift easier than bending that big hunk of metal, plus it usually takes a direct hit to the spindle to bend it.
You don't need adjustable arms to align a car with Strano springs. If you were dropping like 2+ inches then yeah you might, or if you were going for some wild alignment for specific road coursing yeah you might, but a street car no.
Also, I would expect the alignment to just be knocked way out vs a bent spindle. The alignment points will shift easier than bending that big hunk of metal, plus it usually takes a direct hit to the spindle to bend it.
Also, I would expect the alignment to just be knocked way out vs a bent spindle. The alignment points will shift easier than bending that big hunk of metal, plus it usually takes a direct hit to the spindle to bend it.
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My tires lean in. (camber)
When I bought the car it was lowered on decarbons and heated eBay springs. I literally dragged the air dam before I changed the setup. V6 springs and decarbons til tomorrow. Anyways. They lean in noticeably. Passenger is worse than driver. Might be a bent spindle. It's getting replaced along with adjustable uppers to help with camber. Now that y'all know my story..
Why is the outside of my tires bald but the inside looks great? I'd figure with stupid camber the insides would wear not the outsides.
Not thread jacking just asking since my problem is similar but opposite side of the tire wears.
When I bought the car it was lowered on decarbons and heated eBay springs. I literally dragged the air dam before I changed the setup. V6 springs and decarbons til tomorrow. Anyways. They lean in noticeably. Passenger is worse than driver. Might be a bent spindle. It's getting replaced along with adjustable uppers to help with camber. Now that y'all know my story..
Why is the outside of my tires bald but the inside looks great? I'd figure with stupid camber the insides would wear not the outsides.
Not thread jacking just asking since my problem is similar but opposite side of the tire wears.
That's the thing, how much camber you want is related to how hard you corner the car. The harder you do the more negative camber you want. If you don't drive that hard in corners, and the outsides are trashed I'm sure the toe is all jacked up.
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