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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 06:50 PM
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I thought the bushing went out. Drove it very easily for a couple days cause i didnt have tjme to get under it. Well today i did and its not the bushing, its already after market. The top bolt holding the clam shell broke off in the tranny. Wtf do i do now?
I get a company truck Wednesday but i gota drive it till then.
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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 07:02 PM
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get under there an\d unbolt the rear of the torque arm pull the torque arm off. The bolt should be able to be driven out. It's not inside the trans it passes through a bushing on the tailshaft. Go to home depot and get a grade 8 or grade 10.9 matching bolt and nut.
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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 07:24 PM
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You sure the top one goes all the way through? I djdnt feel it on the other side
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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 08:45 PM
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yes:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/96-97-LT1-Camaro-Firebird-4L60E-Transmission-Tailshaft-Extension-Housing-01740-/121095380962?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c31d8dfe2&vxp=mtr
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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 09:35 PM
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get a torque arm relocation crossmember
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by jsteele90
get a torque arm relocation crossmember
Will that work with stock tq arm?
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 11:07 AM
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Better yet... get a complete MWC adjustable torque arm package that includes a crossmember for not much more than just a "relocation" setup. Your stock torque arm is prone for failure anyway and the ones we manufacture will help the car with weight transfer and help keep you hooked up. Give us a call and we will be glad to help you out!
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 11:45 AM
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If you have an automatic:
http://bmrsuspension.com/index.cfm?p...&productid=329

If you have a 6 speed:
http://bmrsuspension.com/index.cfm?p...&productid=327

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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 07:13 PM
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Those relocation cross members look great but i dont see why they are so expensive. i mean founders makes a whole TQ arm for less then that little relocation cross member
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Old Feb 11, 2014 | 03:22 AM
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The relocation crossmember does nothing other than move the torque arm mount off of the transmission tailshaft. By doing this they make the torque arm function better and eliminate the possibility of breaking the tailshaft or clamshell bracket.
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Old Feb 11, 2014 | 07:09 AM
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That top bolt is the hardest to get in/out also. Cut your losses and get a relo bracket for the tq arm. Your car will thank u
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Old Feb 11, 2014 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 2001WS6-DJP
Those relocation cross members look great but i dont see why they are so expensive. i mean founders makes a whole TQ arm for less then that little relocation cross member
I'll just say that there is a reason it is so cheap
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Old Feb 11, 2014 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 6lkl6l24
Will that work with stock tq arm?
Relocation works with the stock torque arm. Make sure you get the "stock" torque arm bushing.

http://umiperformance.com/catalog/in...roducts_id=201

This product doesn't change geometry but it does grab the torque arm nose from the other side and takes the transmission mount out of the equation.

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Old Feb 11, 2014 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BMR Tech2
I'll just say that there is a reason it is so cheap
Why don't you back those words up with some facts!
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Sure. Would you like to compare overhead costs?
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Oh good grief fellas.

I have both BMR and Founders on the car. Both make nice pieces.
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Old Feb 11, 2014 | 02:45 PM
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They are decent parts for their price. Not going to lie, there are a few of their parts I quite like. Such as the 3rd gen upper strut mounts and the billet caliper brackets. However, what I am saying is there are big differences in our manufacturing processes which cause large price differences. If we priced our parts as cheap as they do, we would go out of business quickly. Simply due to our overhead and manufacturing infrastructure. We definitely would have to change some things in the way we operate in order to stay alive.
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Old Feb 12, 2014 | 06:44 AM
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UMI and BMR are like Snap-on, Mac, or Matco. Top of the line tools. Founders is like Kobalt or HarborFreight... pretty good tools with a lifetime warranty so you can take them back when they break.
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Originally Posted by 6lkl6l24
The top bolt holding the clam shell broke off in the tranny. Wtf do i do now?
pretty sure the top bolt that holds the clam shell over the bushing threads into the transmission housing and does not go through, this is on the T56 6-speed manual. the other long bolt on the bottom goes through. if you broke off the top bolt then i am pretty sure you'll need to drop the trans to have clear access to use a left hand drill bit or easy out to bag out the bolt that's left in there. the good news is once you get the tranny out that should be easy to do. bad news is with the work and risks involved dropping the tranny, you might be better off time and money wise buying a relocation bracket. and then at that point you should consider replacing the stock torque arm with an aftermarket adjustable which goes with the relocation bracket. but i think relocation brackets are available to use with the oem torque arm. so with that i think you have 3 choices, get a relocation bracket that works with your oem torque arm, or get a stock length adjustable torque arm with corresponding relocation bracket which i think is best for the street, or choose the short length adjustable torque arm with it's corresponding relocation bracket which is supposed to be better for the drag strip.
be aware with dropping the transmission if it's a T56 you run the risk of breaking the slave cylinder hydraulic line or getting air into the clutch hydraulic system and having clutch problems later.
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Originally Posted by SuperSport01
UMI and BMR are like Snap-on, Mac, or Matco. Top of the line tools. Founders is like Kobalt or HarborFreight... pretty good tools with a lifetime warranty so you can take them back when they break.
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I would beg to differ on this. I would put our fit, finish, and more important performance up against any other suspension parts manufacturer. Just a couple examples are some of the competitions lca brackets cut 1/2" mounting holes and supply a 3/8" bolt where we make our holes 12.07 mm for factory sized 12mm bolt. Second example would be our mounting brackets on our torque arm. Factory torque arm mounting holes to axle are very large measuring .600" or 15.24mm for a 14mm bolt. Most of our competitors copy that dimension but we go a step further to eliminate any chance of clunking, we make ours 14.09mm for a true proper bolt fit. These are just a couple examples of what sets us apart. It does make it harder to design and build parts this way but one thing I can't stand is sloppy built parts.
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