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Staging Lane
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From: SC
I stumbled upon this thread and am simply stunned at the quality of responses from all the manufacturers that have chimed in (good and bad). Future purchases have been made abundantly clear as to which two product manufacturers will get my continued business.
That's pretty rude and cocky, especially from a company that I had two sets of your lowering springs that were faulty and wouldn't set level with my car. I ended up ditching the BMR springs after the second try and went with another company. I was doing a search for some other suspension parts when I came upon this thread. I guess I'll try some Founders products instead of BMR after seeing this display. Thanks for making up my mind.
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On The Tree
Joined: Feb 2012
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From: louisiana
Thanks for the info guys glad to know their are a lot of pleased customers with their founders products props to umi for not bashing other companies products and giving a honest and respectful answer I think I found where i will be buying my products just a shame I have been looking at bmr a while.
Staging Lane
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I have Founders and UMI products on both my Fbodies. I couldnt be happier with the quality and price. After reading this thread i am glad i never went the BMR route. Obviously some vendors have unprofessional attitudes. Service from both Founders and UMI has been awesome. I do plan on sending Strano some business soon. He has been a great contributor to the community as well.
I love this thread. In almost any subforum here on LS1tech vendors will swoop in when someone asks a question about something- as they should. Its when a competitor is mentioned in the title that these threads get interesting. One competitor comes in trying to throw shade at another's product while another is respectful and doesn't try to downgrade the others quality. Nice to see UMI benefit from taking the high road.
We at founders really appreciate all the customer support and loyalty. If there is anything we can do to help you in the future don't hesitate to contact us. Direct email and phone is the best way as we don't spend much time on the forums. We usually come across these threads from the daily email updates the forum sends us.
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Joined: Jan 2013
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From: Mishawaka, IN
All the responses from Founders on here have been very professional, the responses from BMR are not exactly becoming of what you would expect from Sales Rep's trying to put on a good representation of their company.
I have a Founders PHB and STB, I also have the BMR lowering springs and KONI shocks/struts. Unfortunately I have not put them on yet, I read a poster that said his BMR springs did not settle correctly. I hope I have good luck with BMR springs, I really like the stance they offer. And since BMR has the exact replica of Strano's springs, they ought to be good.
I have a Founders PHB and STB, I also have the BMR lowering springs and KONI shocks/struts. Unfortunately I have not put them on yet, I read a poster that said his BMR springs did not settle correctly. I hope I have good luck with BMR springs, I really like the stance they offer. And since BMR has the exact replica of Strano's springs, they ought to be good.
All the responses from Founders on here have been very professional, the responses from BMR are not exactly becoming of what you would expect from Sales Rep's trying to put on a good representation of their company.
I have a Founders PHB and STB, I also have the BMR lowering springs and KONI shocks/struts. Unfortunately I have not put them on yet, I read a poster that said his BMR springs did not settle correctly. I hope I have good luck with BMR springs, I really like the stance they offer. And since BMR has the exact replica of Strano's springs, they ought to be good.
I have a Founders PHB and STB, I also have the BMR lowering springs and KONI shocks/struts. Unfortunately I have not put them on yet, I read a poster that said his BMR springs did not settle correctly. I hope I have good luck with BMR springs, I really like the stance they offer. And since BMR has the exact replica of Strano's springs, they ought to be good.
As for some of the other comments regarding my statements in this matter, this has been part of a larger ongoing debate, and I felt it only fair that you (the customers) are informed with correct information. If anyone else had posted that same picture and description, I would have called it out the same way, just as others would have done to me if I had posted that. So, if trying to get clear accurate information is not what people expect from me, I could go the full on overly PC sales pitch route I suppose. But, I like my customers to be informed and have all of the information needed to make their purchase.
However, thanks to this thread, we have finalized an idea and the customers will benefit in the end. So thanks for the feedback guys!
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Find a Quality alignment shop near you!
I won't get into the whole who's spring came first thing, but I'll just say it's not quite as you put it
As for some of the other comments regarding my statements in this matter, this has been part of a larger ongoing debate, and I felt it only fair that you (the customers) are informed with correct information. If anyone else had posted that same picture and description, I would have called it out the same way, just as others would have done to me if I had posted that. So, if trying to get clear accurate information is not what people expect from me, I could go the full on overly PC sales pitch route I suppose. But, I like my customers to be informed and have all of the information needed to make their purchase.
However, thanks to this thread, we have finalized an idea and the customers will benefit in the end. So thanks for the feedback guys!
As for some of the other comments regarding my statements in this matter, this has been part of a larger ongoing debate, and I felt it only fair that you (the customers) are informed with correct information. If anyone else had posted that same picture and description, I would have called it out the same way, just as others would have done to me if I had posted that. So, if trying to get clear accurate information is not what people expect from me, I could go the full on overly PC sales pitch route I suppose. But, I like my customers to be informed and have all of the information needed to make their purchase.
However, thanks to this thread, we have finalized an idea and the customers will benefit in the end. So thanks for the feedback guys!
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Joined: Jan 2013
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From: Mishawaka, IN
I won't get into the whole who's spring came first thing, but I'll just say it's not quite as you put it
As for some of the other comments regarding my statements in this matter, this has been part of a larger ongoing debate, and I felt it only fair that you (the customers) are informed with correct information. If anyone else had posted that same picture and description, I would have called it out the same way, just as others would have done to me if I had posted that. So, if trying to get clear accurate information is not what people expect from me, I could go the full on overly PC sales pitch route I suppose. But, I like my customers to be informed and have all of the information needed to make their purchase.
However, thanks to this thread, we have finalized an idea and the customers will benefit in the end. So thanks for the feedback guys!
As for some of the other comments regarding my statements in this matter, this has been part of a larger ongoing debate, and I felt it only fair that you (the customers) are informed with correct information. If anyone else had posted that same picture and description, I would have called it out the same way, just as others would have done to me if I had posted that. So, if trying to get clear accurate information is not what people expect from me, I could go the full on overly PC sales pitch route I suppose. But, I like my customers to be informed and have all of the information needed to make their purchase.
However, thanks to this thread, we have finalized an idea and the customers will benefit in the end. So thanks for the feedback guys!
TECH Apprentice
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 388
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From: Mishawaka, IN
TECH Apprentice
Joined: Jan 2013
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From: Mishawaka, IN
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So back to the original question.
Speaking for UMI, At our facility a product is first designed by an "in house" team consisting of engineers,draftsman, sales/tech, racers and a few others that are employed by the company. We then build a proto-type which is installed on one of our house cars and usually raced or put through the "ringer" so that we can assure it will hold up to extreme abuse.
After we are satisfied with the product we then begin the process of production which consists of raw U.S. material being cut whether it's by one of our saws or our Laser Cutter, then depending on the product it could go to our bending dept., our machining dept. or one of our 7 welders, or all of them. After that it goes to our sand blasting dept. then to our powder coat booth.
I'm pretty sure whether it's UMI, BMR, Founders or any other suspension manufacturer sponsor on this site you will get a quality product that is much better than the factory components.
I think where the difference in price comes in is that some companies go about the manufacturing process in different ways. None of these processes are wrong some just take more overhead to achieve.
Craig
Speaking for UMI, At our facility a product is first designed by an "in house" team consisting of engineers,draftsman, sales/tech, racers and a few others that are employed by the company. We then build a proto-type which is installed on one of our house cars and usually raced or put through the "ringer" so that we can assure it will hold up to extreme abuse.
After we are satisfied with the product we then begin the process of production which consists of raw U.S. material being cut whether it's by one of our saws or our Laser Cutter, then depending on the product it could go to our bending dept., our machining dept. or one of our 7 welders, or all of them. After that it goes to our sand blasting dept. then to our powder coat booth.
I'm pretty sure whether it's UMI, BMR, Founders or any other suspension manufacturer sponsor on this site you will get a quality product that is much better than the factory components.
I think where the difference in price comes in is that some companies go about the manufacturing process in different ways. None of these processes are wrong some just take more overhead to achieve.
Craig
Yes this can happen. We tuned up our design and added a third hole for additional tuning.
Staging Lane
Joined: Apr 2015
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From: Kansas
Everyone has their own preferences on what company they want to put on their cars. i have seen quality from all companies, UMI has good customer service and good parts. Founders has good parts for the price but not a wide selection. I prefer BMR just due to the quality of welds and how well they're built and the wide selection (my opinion). But a company will have some bad products that leave the facility due to mass production... **** happens contact the company and 9/10 they will get you taken care off. no reason to sit here and see who can **** farther...