Downsides of Tubular K members and a arms
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Other than cost, difficulty, and time involved, what are other things against installing an upgraded kmember and a arms? Is there a new suspension geometry? I can't think of any downfalls IF the k members and control arms are well built. Less Weight on the nose and less unsprung weight should make the car handle better and be smoother. I highly doubt I will attempt this, but it's tempting since I'm replacing so much of my suspension. Now would be the time to do it.
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Other than cost, difficulty, and time involved, what are other things against installing an upgraded kmember and a arms? Is there a new suspension geometry? I can't think of any downfalls IF the k members and control arms are well built. Less Weight on the nose and less unsprung weight should make the car handle better and be smoother. I highly doubt I will attempt this, but it's tempting since I'm replacing so much of my suspension. Now would be the time to do it.
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The wisdom from the road race crowd has been that the stock member is stronger than most aftermarket K members; except the UMI K member for RR/AX is probably the best for strength. They're doing some cool stuff with the ackerman geometry. I don't know if that made it into the production pieces yet.
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The wisdom from the road race crowd has been that the stock member is stronger than most aftermarket K members; except the UMI K member for RR/AX is probably the best for strength. They're doing some cool stuff with the ackerman geometry. I don't know if that made it into the production pieces yet.
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I know what guy on here hit a curb or something and bent the K-Member and some other stuff. He ended up going back to the stock K-Member after that. Personally, I plan on going to the UMI K-Member eventually. It makes dropping the oil pan easier, it gives you more room to work and I can install a turbocharger if I want to while retaining my air conditioning. I live in Texas, so an A/C delete is a dumbass idea.
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Other than cost, difficulty, and time involved, what are other things against installing an upgraded kmember and a arms? Is there a new suspension geometry? I can't think of any downfalls IF the k members and control arms are well built. Less Weight on the nose and less unsprung weight should make the car handle better and be smoother. I highly doubt I will attempt this, but it's tempting since I'm replacing so much of my suspension. Now would be the time to do it.
I myself have had tubular K-members and A-Arms on vehicles since the early 90's on daily do it all type racing drivers with out issues. Kevin who used to work here put 100,xxx miles on his tubular K-Member/A-Arms when he daily drove his car a few years ago. The same ones are still on his car going mid 8's even the same heim joints which goes to show if good ones are used they will last.
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I know there hasn't been much documented k member failures, i only saw that bmr piece that was made I believe 2008ish. after seeing just that one failure, I want the strongest piece available.
let's be real, these cars get beat on when we take them out, these aren't really dailys anymore. we **** whip them into corners, we do pulls up to 130 maybe more, and do all sorts of stuff. honestly the only benefit i see is if u road race and or turbo. the bmr race version I believe allows for more aggressive alignment specs to help when u are really pushing these cars. trying to protect the thousands and thousands of dollars I put into this car by not downgrading the factory piece just to make it easier to work on and risking the structural integrity of something that is responsible for many things besides holding the engine in place.
let's be real, these cars get beat on when we take them out, these aren't really dailys anymore. we **** whip them into corners, we do pulls up to 130 maybe more, and do all sorts of stuff. honestly the only benefit i see is if u road race and or turbo. the bmr race version I believe allows for more aggressive alignment specs to help when u are really pushing these cars. trying to protect the thousands and thousands of dollars I put into this car by not downgrading the factory piece just to make it easier to work on and risking the structural integrity of something that is responsible for many things besides holding the engine in place.
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I run a mwc tube k with stock control arms. Urethane bushings and rod ends suck on a real street car. If it a limited street/strip type car I'm sure you can live with it. They're harsh, make noise and will require more maintenance. There's not alot of weight difference in aftermarket vs stock control arms either. And with a little whittling on the stock ones they may end up lighter.
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I’ve had a umi road racing k member in my car for over 10 years and 80,xxx miles. Not problems ever with it. Very nice piece and it’s def the strongest k member out there. I use to daily drive the car on the highway every day so I wanted the strongest one and the road racing one never was a problem
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