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Old 05-07-2009, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by SilverGhost
I can fix that problem, just did Big Bird WS6 for him. Can strip and re-coat in any color, put any decal you want on them, and clear over it all..
How much to repaint them (2) to red with brembo decals?
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Originally Posted by JasonWW




Did this camaro use spacers?
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i bet not.
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Originally Posted by some_punk
Did this camaro use spacers?
Yes..
Old 05-07-2009, 12:16 PM
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how big of spacer?
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and is there any choices for brake lines other than the ones that eb miller makes?
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Originally Posted by fast377
Yes..
i guess he used spacers. idk. i got both a 1/8 and 1/4 spacer laying here. so when i put it on. if i need it i got it. but i think i need it for the tires not to hit. not the calipers. i am running a 275/40/18 which should fill in the wheel well better
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Originally Posted by Big_Bird_WS6
i guess he used spacers. idk. i got both a 1/8 and 1/4 spacer laying here. so when i put it on. if i need it i got it. but i think i need it for the tires not to hit. not the calipers. i am running a 275/40/18 which should fill in the wheel well better
I'm going to be running 18's as well.

Just waiting for the wheels to come back into stock so I can order them

The offset for the Corvette Z06 is 40mm. The offset for F-body wheels is 56mm. So the backs of our wheel spokes are 16mm closer to the caliper, which would be the reason that spacers may have to be used.

As much as I hope I won't need spacers, I have a feeling there is less than a 16mm clearance between the wheel spokes and calipers on a stock Corvette Z06. Meaning on our cars with our offset, they may touch without a spacer.
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I have a 35mm offset on my 18'' ADR M-sport wheels. Do you think this would help anymore with clearence or still require a spacer?
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Originally Posted by Wesmanw02
I'm going to be running 18's as well.

Just waiting for the wheels to come back into stock so I can order them

The offset for the Corvette Z06 is 40mm. The offset for F-body wheels is 56mm. So the backs of our wheel spokes are 16mm closer to the caliper, which would be the reason that spacers may have to be used.

As much as I hope I won't need spacers, I have a feeling there is less than a 16mm clearance between the wheel spokes and calipers on a stock Corvette Z06. Meaning on our cars with our offset, they may touch without a spacer.
**** i never thought of this. so lets see 16mm. well there is 25.2 mm in a inch half of that is 12.6 so i need close to a 5/8 spacer. or just start with a little one and keep adding.

when do i i need bigger studds?
1/8?
1/4?
1/2?
5/8?

when is the point of changing them
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I think my vette clone rims were 79 offset and I had 1' adapters caus if u go past 1/4 I read its not so safe ..
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When I mounted mine with out spacers it scraped a line of powder coating off so now there red w/ a silver streak ... its fail for me with no spacers . And I think I have a 79 offset
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Originally Posted by Wesmanw02
The offset for the Corvette Z06 is 40mm. The offset for F-body wheels is 56mm.
I think you have that backwards if im not mistaken. I know i had to do some 'offset correcting' with my 56mm offset wheels with some spacers and longer arp studs to make them fit.
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FYI,

The wheel offset has nothing to do with the clearance issues with the calipers.
The spoke/hub section is where the issue's at. The spacers/adapters work because it moves the spokes further away from the calipers.
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Originally Posted by MurderedOut
I think you have that backwards if im not mistaken. I know i had to do some 'offset correcting' with my 56mm offset wheels with some spacers and longer arp studs to make them fit.
Nope, thats the offset of the stock rims on both cars.

How big of spacers did you run??

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FYI,

The wheel offset has nothing to do with the clearance issues with the calipers.
The spoke/hub section is where the issue's at. The spacers/adapters work because it moves the spokes further away from the calipers.
Changing the distance from the hub mounting surface to the rear of the spokes of the wheel changes the offset, because you're also changing the distance between the hub mounting surface and the wheel centerline - which is the definition of offset.

If offset wasn't the issue, how do the wheels clear on stock Corvette Z06's but not on our cars?? The Corvette uses a 40mm offset, while our cars use a 56mm offset, thats why.
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Okay, here's the point I'm trying to make.
Example:
If you have two wheels exactly the same in every way, except one has a +56 offset, and the other has a +35 offset both will have the same caliper clearance if the whole spoke/hub mount assembly is moved to change the wheel offset.

The only time the offset would effect the spoke to caliper clearance is if the offset is changed by either making the wheel hub mount shorter/ longer; like the original 5 spoke ZR1 wheels do where the spoke location and wheel lip size don't change from the 9.5" to 11" wide wheel.
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Originally Posted by 99Bluz28
Okay, here's the point I'm trying to make.
Example:
If you have two wheels exactly the same in every way, except one has a +56 offset, and the other has a +35 offset both will have the same caliper clearance if the whole spoke/hub mount assembly is moved to change the wheel offset.
Correct.

The only time the offset would effect the spoke to caliper clearance is if the offset is changed by either making the wheel hub mount shorter/ longer; like the original 5 spoke ZR1 wheels do where the spoke location and wheel lip size don't change from the 9.5" to 11" wide wheel.
I agree...but isn't that the way that they change the offset on the Corvette C6 wheels as well?? They vary the depth of the hub to change the hub-to-spoke clearance. If you look at a 40mm offset C6 Z06 wheel vs. a 56mm offset one, they look the same from the front, the spokes/face of the wheel are in the same place. So the only way to change the offset would be to vary the lenght of the hub mounting point.

So by your description of the way they change the offset, you're saying 40mm offset and 56mm offset C6 Z06 rims should have exactly the same spoke to caliper clearance?? And in case I come accross the wrong way, I'm not trying to be critical at all here, just trying to figure all this out.
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Sorry about the misunderstanding.
I was talking about all wheel styles, not just the C6 Z06.
I just didn't want everybody thinking that all wheel styles with the same wheel offset would allow the same caliper clearance, that all.

And Yes, you would have more caliper clearance with +40 vs +56 offset with the C6 Z06 since the wheel hub mounting area is where all the offset difference is for equal wheel widths.

But, with other wheels where the lips size changes depending on the wheel width and offset, the caliper clearance would remain the same.
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Originally Posted by 99Bluz28
Sorry about the misunderstanding.
I was talking about all wheel styles, not just the C6 Z06.
I just didn't want everybody thinking that all wheel styles with the same wheel offset would allow the same caliper clearance, that all.

And Yes, you would have more caliper clearance with +40 vs +56 offset with the C6 Z06 since the wheel hub mounting area is where all the offset difference is for equal wheel widths.

But, with other wheels where the lips size changes depending on the wheel width and offset, the caliper clearance would remain the same.
Ok, that clears it up then.

So for us guys running C6 Z06's, our caliper clearance issue vs. the Corvette is with the larger offset that F-bodies need. Hence the possible need for a spacer like I originally stated, due to the 16mm difference in spoke to caliper clearance.
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Originally Posted by Monello
How much to repaint them (2) to red with brembo decals?
$175 to strip them and re-coat. You'd have to ask Big Bird where he got those Brembo decals though, as he sent them with his calipers.


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