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Old 02-18-2009, 03:05 PM
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Everything for all four corners is something like 18k.
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Ceramic rotors are very expensive, and very pointless to put on a street car, that's my take on the ZR-1 brake setup at least. Even though the thread is about CTS-V brakes, lol.
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Originally Posted by fast377
Woops...that's a big difference.

If anyone wants a heart attack, price all the ZR1 stuff (calipers, hats, rotor, and pads)...it's not pretty.
The way he's talking, he might have meant the ZR1. I can't really tell. We just need to keep them straight.

Is the ZR1 stuff in the price range of the typical aftermarket BBK $2k-$2.5K?
Oh, I see it's way more.
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Originally Posted by JasonWW
The way he's talking, he might have meant the ZR1. I can't really tell. We just need to keep them straight.

Is the ZR1 stuff in the price range of the typical aftermarket BBK $2k-$2.5K?
Oh, I see it's way more.
Check my above post. Last time I checked it was around 14-18k for all four corners.
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Taken from another forum:

"The '09 ZR1 units are made by Brembo. They are a Carbon/Ceramic composite rotor but not the Carbon/Carbon racing discs....but close.

The cost for a 4 wheel ZR1 system will be about $14,999.00. By contrast a full Carbon/Carbon racing brake system costs about $22,500. The difference is in the rotor material. The Carbon/Ceramics will not have quite the performance as a Carbon/Carbon disc but are slightly cheaper. The Carbon/Ceramics will have a little less initial bight and a slightly lower heat range/resistance but will be more street friendly....ie. they will be more consistant and functional at a lower heat range (cold).

BTW Brembo has set up a new factory to manufacture the new Carbon /Ceramic brake systems. It's partner in the venture is Daimler-Chysler.

The Brembo racing Carbon/Carbon racing brakes come in 380mm (15 3/8") or 355mm (14") dia and in either 37mm (1 1/2") or 32mm (1 1/4") widths. Most use Pagid 19 pads with the Carbon/Carbon discs.

Likewise the new ZR1 Carbon/Ceramics will come in the similar sizes but a bit larger on the front at 390mm (15 1/2")(Ferrari FXX front) and 380mm (Ferrari Enzo front) in the rear. So they should fit under an 18" racing wheel depending on caliper thickness.

The calipers for the Carbon/Carbon systems are a Monobloc 6 pot front and 4 pot rear as are the new Calipers for the ZR1. Either a 28/30/38 or 30/32/40 for the front pistons and 28/36 for the rear. 8 pot fronts are also available.

Pads and rotors will weigh a lot less and will last a lot longer under racing conditions. You may never need new pads and rotors if only driven on the street.

So the advantages are, less weight, better endurance, ibetter nitial performance, concictant performance and they are basically not effected by moisture.
Disadvantages are very hiigh relative initial cost, higher operating temps requiring increased cooling and using a brake fluid with a DRY boiling point greater than 600*F.

You had better stock up on wheel cleaner though."
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Originally Posted by fast377
Check my above post. Last time I checked it was around 14-18k for all four corners.
Das why I'm trying to hook you n!gga's up with 14" and 4 pistons for $700 or so. Sheeeee!

Sorry about the hood lingo.
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Originally Posted by fast377
You may never need new pads and rotors if only driven on the street.

You had better stock up on wheel cleaner though."
Am I the only one who caught that? How can you have lots of dust if the rotors and pads hardly wear?
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So whos car is that with the finished setup?
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Originally Posted by fast377
Everything for all four corners is something like 18k.
how?

1500 dealer cost per corner. that is 6K. and the zr1 caliper is 650 dealer cost and the caddy cts-v caliper(same thing as zr1 just doesnt say corvet on it) is 550 dealer cost. so

rotors 6.0K
calipers 2.2K

and what 150 for the front brakes and 110 for rear brakes. so we are less then half of 18K. so even if you say ten to make it up and running . that is bad ***. still do they make pods for f-body so i can use my stock e-brake?
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Originally Posted by ebmiller88
OK, thanks..I hope they'll fit those wheels. As promised here's pics of the setup. And I know I used the opposite side caliper as it was the one I had out of the box, works the same.

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From these pic it really does not seem like he did any real modifactions to get them to fit. I was reading that those rotors are from a C6 Z06 but is the caliper actually moved in that pic? I read a 1/2 inch back?

Will those clear the 17 inch Zr1 wheels>?
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24 pages and still so many unanswered questions.... epic fail.
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Originally Posted by Shockwave179
So whos car is that with the finished setup?
marine02ss
His pics:https://ls1tech.com/forums/suspensio...ke-kit-11.html
Originally Posted by RsSean
From these pic it really does not seem like he did any real modifactions to get them to fit. I was reading that those rotors are from a C6 Z06 but is the caliper actually moved in that pic? I read a 1/2 inch back?

Will those clear the 17 inch Zr1 wheels>?
Yes, if you use the CTS-V caliper with the C6 Z06 rotor, they bolt right together. That's the whole point. No mods or brackets needed.

What do you mean "is the caliper actually moved in that pic?"? In comparison to what? If you mean F-body calipers, then the mounting legs are a full 1" longer.

I can't help you in the rim clearance stuff.
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24 pages and still so many unanswered questions.... epic fail.
You better be joking or else

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so do we have a final complete setup yet?
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Originally Posted by Disturbed Bird
so do we have a final complete setup yet?
Why are you asking that when you see them on the car? Yes, they fit.
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One the first couple of pages there was questions of the caliper mounting would have to be moved back a 1/2 inch. But I guess that is solved with the different rotor.
Thanks.
Now need to find out if that set up will fit under a 17 inch wheel
Would the brake master cylinder have to be changed or the booster?
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Originally Posted by RsSean
One the first couple of pages there was questions of the caliper mounting would have to be moved back a 1/2 inch. But I guess that is solved with the different rotor.
Thanks.
Now need to find out if that set up will fit under a 17 inch wheel
Would the brake master cylinder have to be changed or the booster?
The first couple of pages were from 9-14-06. You can pretty much ignore that older stuff.

Some people wanted to use the Brembo CTS-V calipers with their stock 17" rims so they were looking at different offset 13" rotors. You can cut the mounting ears off the spindles and make a bracket that moves the calipers in a small amount (1/4"), but not enough for 13" rotors. Ed is working on brackets to fit 13.5" rotors, but he's been real busy lately. You might be able to fit the 13.5" rotor under your 17's, but nothing is for sure right now.

If you want to fit the 13" vette rotor you will HAVE to use a different caliper.

You don't need to alter your master cylinder or booster.
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well then maybe this thread should be closed and a proper write up done? 24pages is crazy.
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Originally Posted by GoFast908Z
well then maybe this thread should be closed and a proper write up done? 24pages is crazy.
Your right, but people keep posting to this thread.

I tried to make a simpler one focusing on just the CTS-V calipers and 14" rotors, but it has gotten up to 14 pages.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/suspensio...brake-kit.html

If I were a mod, I'd take all the good info and put it in a single sticky thread and then close it so it stayed short.
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Originally Posted by JasonWW
Why are you asking that when you see them on the car? Yes, they fit.
Jason you crack me up, I read some of the posts and I start laughing because I know it is only a matter of time before you throw out some really good sarcasm.
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Originally Posted by 02SOMLS1WS6
Jason you crack me up, I read some of the posts and I start laughing because I know it is only a matter of time before you throw out some really good sarcasm.
I'm loosing my patience month after month. I'm getting bitter, too. I can tell.
I've been on this forum too long.


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