CTS-V brakes, something different
05-27-2008, 11:17 PM
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As we already discussed:
the 2004 Audi A8: diameter=360mm, thickness=31mm, height=60.
This is pretty cost effective, is the right offset and is 14.4" in diameter. You just have to redrill the lug pattern.
Coleman offers 14" rings for $175 and 15" rings for $262. Then you add the cost of the hat to it.
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05-28-2008, 12:25 AM
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Not yet. It's still really new.
Did anyone find out the 13" GTO rotors offset? I know it's pushed in further than the F-body rotors. With a custom bracket, that removes the stock brake bosses and pulls the caliper in, it will probably give you more spoke clearance.
Did anyone find out the 13" GTO rotors offset? I know it's pushed in further than the F-body rotors. With a custom bracket, that removes the stock brake bosses and pulls the caliper in, it will probably give you more spoke clearance.
05-28-2008, 02:33 AM
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How if the thread was started so long ago? 2+yrs does not seem really new. Are you now finding out the LSA CTS-V brembos fit? Or the old LS6 CTS-V brembos?
Guess i'll have read it all.
Guess i'll have read it all.
05-28-2008, 02:50 AM
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To summarize, this thread was originally about the 4 piston CTS-V calipers mating with a 13" rotor for all the guys running 17" rims. Myself and a few others were interested in the 14" Vette rotors. We just found out that the 14" combo bolts right up thanks to EB having all these parts at his disposal. We still don't have a sure fire 17" rim combo, but its being worked on right now.
Finding new brake setups for these cars can be fairly expensive since you have to buy lots of components. If it doesn't fit, you lost your money. If you want to speed things up, then by all means spend a few hundred bucks on one wheels worth of parts and see if they can work together. If your not up for that, you will just have to wait for someone else to do it.
This is why it takes so long.
Finding new brake setups for these cars can be fairly expensive since you have to buy lots of components. If it doesn't fit, you lost your money. If you want to speed things up, then by all means spend a few hundred bucks on one wheels worth of parts and see if they can work together. If your not up for that, you will just have to wait for someone else to do it.
This is why it takes so long.
05-28-2008, 11:25 AM
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I can't remember if it has been clearly decided or not, do our brake hoses fit these CTSV calipers? If not is there a stainless hose that would work? Just looking at my Firehawk 17" wheels says if any 17 will fit it would be these, there's plenty of caliper clearance that is largest at the far ends. I'm trying to get a total cost idea. My local dealer who I get wholesale through gave me the same costs as GMParts direct with the double $40 for shipping on these calipers. They must all come from Italy.
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05-28-2008, 03:06 PM
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That is possible. The limit is 30mm. So any hats need to have less than 30mm offset.
You can get 15" 2 piece rotors, but they are expensive.
As we already discussed:
the 2004 Audi A8: diameter=360mm, thickness=31mm, height=60.
This is pretty cost effective, is the right offset and is 14.4" in diameter. You just have to redrill the lug pattern.
Coleman offers 14" rings for $175 and 15" rings for $262. Then you add the cost of the hat to it.
You can get 15" 2 piece rotors, but they are expensive.
As we already discussed:
the 2004 Audi A8: diameter=360mm, thickness=31mm, height=60.
This is pretty cost effective, is the right offset and is 14.4" in diameter. You just have to redrill the lug pattern.
Coleman offers 14" rings for $175 and 15" rings for $262. Then you add the cost of the hat to it.
Jason, could you measure your wheels (hub to spoke)? Like I said, you might be just fine with the C6s.
05-28-2008, 07:34 PM
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So you want me to take my wheel off and lay a flat edge along the hub area and then measure 90* from there to the spokes? Damn, I don't feel like pulling a wheel off right now. I can measure from the stock caliper to different points along the sloped spoke and we can calculate it that way. Will that work?
Also keep in mind, I have 19's. The more common 18's may be slightly different. Maybe we should find someone with 18's to measure.
05-28-2008, 07:55 PM
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Oh, I know I'm fine.
So you want me to take my wheel off and lay a flat edge along the hub area and then measure 90* from there to the spokes? Damn, I don't feel like pulling a wheel off right now. I can measure from the stock caliper to different points along the sloped spoke and we can calculate it that way. Will that work?
Also keep in mind, I have 19's. The more common 18's may be slightly different. Maybe we should find someone with 18's to measure.
So you want me to take my wheel off and lay a flat edge along the hub area and then measure 90* from there to the spokes? Damn, I don't feel like pulling a wheel off right now. I can measure from the stock caliper to different points along the sloped spoke and we can calculate it that way. Will that work?
Also keep in mind, I have 19's. The more common 18's may be slightly different. Maybe we should find someone with 18's to measure.
05-29-2008, 04:12 PM
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The BMW X5 4wd 03-06 is a 14" rotor and has a lug pattern of 5x120 AND is about 1/2" deeper than the Z06 rotor...that might clear. And the lug holes could be elongated a little instead of redrilled like the Audi. But I think it's a little too thick...36mm.
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05-29-2008, 04:49 PM
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^ ^ Sounds like you're onto something?! 
This will be a beautiful setup if we can have off-the-shelf parts to put such a big brake kit onto the F-bodies
. Whether it's simply for the looks factor (for some) or the performance factor (for others, like myself, who actually track their cars) this will be a killer setup, and "relatively" inexpensive!! 
Looking forward to hearing more of the results of the test fits. Unfortunately I DON'T have the funds to do my own experimentation at home
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This will be a beautiful setup if we can have off-the-shelf parts to put such a big brake kit onto the F-bodies
. Whether it's simply for the looks factor (for some) or the performance factor (for others, like myself, who actually track their cars) this will be a killer setup, and "relatively" inexpensive!! Looking forward to hearing more of the results of the test fits. Unfortunately I DON'T have the funds to do my own experimentation at home
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05-29-2008, 05:07 PM
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^ ^ Sounds like you're onto something?!
This will be a beautiful setup if we can have off-the-shelf parts to put such a big brake kit onto the F-bodies. Whether it's simply for the looks factor (for some) or the performance factor (for others, like myself, who actually track their cars) this will be a killer setup, and "relatively" inexpensive!!
Looking forward to hearing more of the results of the test fits. Unfortunately I DON'T have the funds to do my own experimentation at home.
This will be a beautiful setup if we can have off-the-shelf parts to put such a big brake kit onto the F-bodies
. Whether it's simply for the looks factor (for some) or the performance factor (for others, like myself, who actually track their cars) this will be a killer setup, and "relatively" inexpensive!! Looking forward to hearing more of the results of the test fits. Unfortunately I DON'T have the funds to do my own experimentation at home
.We'll figure it out...just going to take a little time. Just the pad options alone for these calipers make it worth while in my opinion. I talked to carbotech the other day...they have tons of options. A good race pad is a little over $200.
05-29-2008, 05:20 PM
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The Porsche Cayenne/Volkswagen Tourareg has our lug pattern, more than enough offset (35mm) and is 13.78". But it would require hubcentric rings. Hub center is 85mm vs. our 71.
The Chrysler 300C SRT8 has 14" and a good offset and the right hub center...too bad they are 5x115.
The Chrysler 300C SRT8 has 14" and a good offset and the right hub center...too bad they are 5x115.
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05-29-2008, 10:26 PM
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I pulled one of my Firehawk rims and measured the hub to spoke clearance at 7" out and it was only 1.375". If it needs 1 7/8" it's not even close.
Anyway, Fast377 are you saying the only problem with the Chrysler rotor is the bolt pattern? That's an easy fix.
Vernon
Anyway, Fast377 are you saying the only problem with the Chrysler rotor is the bolt pattern? That's an easy fix.
Vernon