Not looking for incredible performance, just a comfy ride.
08-08-2007, 04:29 PM
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Not looking for incredible performance, just a comfy ride. I've got the prokits on with stock replacement shocks (monroes, gabriels) and the ride feels like you're dragging your car over mountainous rock. Bumpy as hell and moves around a lot. I just want some shocks that can handle the rate of the prokits and feel comfortably for daily driving (going up and down inclines, bump highway sections, and dips in the road). For now, I have to just coast that kind of road and hope for the best when I pass over it.
I've been reading about how the KYB AGX aren't that good for performance, but how are they for daily cruising? For that price, they seem hard to beat.
I don't want to shell out $500+ for some Strano revalves but if I have to then I will. Just seems like those AGXs would do their job for easy driving, no?
I've been reading about how the KYB AGX aren't that good for performance, but how are they for daily cruising? For that price, they seem hard to beat.
I don't want to shell out $500+ for some Strano revalves but if I have to then I will. Just seems like those AGXs would do their job for easy driving, no?
08-09-2007, 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Greggy
use Bilstein HD 3rd gen rears and 4th gen fronts. This would be adequate for a nice comfy ride for $350 or so. The LS1 Pro-Kit spring rates are not very high.
08-09-2007, 09:43 AM
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Exactly.. The third gen f-body rear shocks are the same except for the better valving on the third gens.
The front HD's in my opinion will be a little on the squishy side, but you said all out performance was not your goal. I had all 4th gen. HD's on stock springs and they were a bit cushy for me and lacked feel, but better than stock.
The back will be fine with the third gens. The fronts are a bit soft. The Prokit fronts are 400# and stocks fronts are 292#, so revalves would be better.
Call Strano for more input...I would buy revalve fronts for mine, but I hate vague suspensions.
The front HD's in my opinion will be a little on the squishy side, but you said all out performance was not your goal. I had all 4th gen. HD's on stock springs and they were a bit cushy for me and lacked feel, but better than stock.
The back will be fine with the third gens. The fronts are a bit soft. The Prokit fronts are 400# and stocks fronts are 292#, so revalves would be better.
Call Strano for more input...I would buy revalve fronts for mine, but I hate vague suspensions.
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08-10-2007, 06:05 AM
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I live in western NewYork, where the roads are really crappy. NO set up rides well here...That being said, I have the ProKit springs and the SLP Bilstein shocks. They handle fairly well, and ride much better than the ProKit/OE DeCarbon shock set up rode.
Just my $0.02 worth.....
Just my $0.02 worth.....
08-10-2007, 06:13 AM
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Having a shock that is better, but still can't handle the "harsh" spring rates of the prokit is a band aid fix. Over lot of bumpy roads you sure dont' want to increase spring rate. Springs can lessen body roll, you can also do that swaybars.
So I would put say a big 35mm front bar, and some stock springs and a set of konis.
This is my .02 cents worth.
good luck!
So I would put say a big 35mm front bar, and some stock springs and a set of konis.
This is my .02 cents worth.
good luck!
08-10-2007, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by coolformula
Having a shock that is better, but still can't handle the "harsh" spring rates of the prokit is a band aid fix. Over lot of bumpy roads you sure dont' want to increase spring rate. Springs can lessen body roll, you can also do that swaybars.
So I would put say a big 35mm front bar, and some stock springs and a set of konis.
This is my .02 cents worth.
good luck!
So I would put say a big 35mm front bar, and some stock springs and a set of konis.
This is my .02 cents worth.
good luck!
Simply reinstalling the OE springs will not accomplish the goals desired here, so alternatives are being discussed........... If, by some chance, you're using OE springs on your car, and are satisfied with the ride height and ride quality, so be it. Neither Kaos nor I wanted the 4x4 look that comes with the OE springs, therefore continuing to say to go with the OE springs is pointless....
I've had the ProKit springs in my car for 10 years. "Comfy" ride? Not exactly, but it's a "pony car", not a Cadillac. I simply stated that the Bilstein shocks improved my ride quality considerably.
08-10-2007, 12:41 PM
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I don't think the point was missed. If you want "comfy", lowering springs ain't the way to get it. If you want low, that's fine, but be preppared to sacrifice to get shocks capable of giving you the best ride possible.
I'd recommend the same thing with "comfy" being the priority, stock springs and good shocks. If low and the best ride is the priority, then I'm going to tell him Koni's so he can tune the ride to his liking and control the springs the best way possible.
No need to get crabby, coolformula wasn't off base. These forums are good to a point, but they leave a lot to be desired in terms or detail, and details matter.
I'd recommend the same thing with "comfy" being the priority, stock springs and good shocks. If low and the best ride is the priority, then I'm going to tell him Koni's so he can tune the ride to his liking and control the springs the best way possible.
No need to get crabby, coolformula wasn't off base. These forums are good to a point, but they leave a lot to be desired in terms or detail, and details matter.
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08-13-2007, 02:23 PM
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No need to get crabby, coolformula wasn't off base. These forums are good to a point, but they leave a lot to be desired in terms or detail, and details matter.
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Stock ride was actually comfortable on mine, Hotchkiss
+ SLP Bilsteins made it a lot harder, went back to stock
rears minus donut and the Gabriels and it's better but still
not stock-comfort. I'd say stock springs out back without
the spacer would keep the stance you like and be a lot
more cushy. Maybe pick up a set of used Bilstein rears,
they are "supposed to be" lifetime durable, try them out.
The front is more of a pain to revise, the back seems to
contribute more than its share of ride discomfort though
so a little effort there may pay off higher.
+ SLP Bilsteins made it a lot harder, went back to stock
rears minus donut and the Gabriels and it's better but still
not stock-comfort. I'd say stock springs out back without
the spacer would keep the stance you like and be a lot
more cushy. Maybe pick up a set of used Bilstein rears,
they are "supposed to be" lifetime durable, try them out.
The front is more of a pain to revise, the back seems to
contribute more than its share of ride discomfort though
so a little effort there may pay off higher.
08-13-2007, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmyblue
Stock ride was actually comfortable on mine, Hotchkiss
+ SLP Bilsteins made it a lot harder, went back to stock
rears minus donut and the Gabriels and it's better but still
not stock-comfort. I'd say stock springs out back without
the spacer would keep the stance you like and be a lot
more cushy. Maybe pick up a set of used Bilstein rears,
they are "supposed to be" lifetime durable, try them out.
The front is more of a pain to revise, the back seems to
contribute more than its share of ride discomfort though
so a little effort there may pay off higher.
+ SLP Bilsteins made it a lot harder, went back to stock
rears minus donut and the Gabriels and it's better but still
not stock-comfort. I'd say stock springs out back without
the spacer would keep the stance you like and be a lot
more cushy. Maybe pick up a set of used Bilstein rears,
they are "supposed to be" lifetime durable, try them out.
The front is more of a pain to revise, the back seems to
contribute more than its share of ride discomfort though
so a little effort there may pay off higher.
