Nose dipper
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Nose dipper What can help prevent the front end from diving down under moderate to hard braking?
I already have aftermarket sway bars, shocks, LCA, PHB. I have stock factory torque arms, no sub-frames, however.
I already have aftermarket sway bars, shocks, LCA, PHB. I have stock factory torque arms, no sub-frames, however.
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What size sways do you have? What kind of shocks? And SFC's wont help nose dive.
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...sways are Strano hollow bar front, solid rear - 35/22 - I think. HD Biels 4 corners. 1LE (SS) springs. Poly/stl adj. PHB, LCA. ..stock tork arm...?
...nose droop not all that bad but not much different with new stuff.
...nose droop not all that bad but not much different with new stuff.
You can't stop it, and shouldn't. Springs will hurt the ride, which I know you already don't like. You have 1LE springs (which is a little beyond what HD's are meant to deal with) which are stiffer than stock by about 20%. The car just doesn't have a lot of anti-dive geometry built into it. Dive happens, but most of what you feel is the rear hiking up. Better shocks with more rebound slow that down, and stock rear springs would too as they wouldn't be trying to extend as hard.
If you make the car not dive at all, it won't stop. And springs won't stop the dive, and will make the ride more firm.
If you make the car not dive at all, it won't stop. And springs won't stop the dive, and will make the ride more firm.
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High center of gravity and a high bias to the front brakes both
make big forward weight transfer on braking. Springs resist the
deflection from it, shocks resist transient deflection, if it's more
of an overshoot than a steady squat then more bump damping
might be desirable. Not much you can do about brake bias if
you want to keep ABS.
make big forward weight transfer on braking. Springs resist the
deflection from it, shocks resist transient deflection, if it's more
of an overshoot than a steady squat then more bump damping
might be desirable. Not much you can do about brake bias if
you want to keep ABS.
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OK - if brake bias is too much forward, and you want to retain ABS, can you upgrade the rear brakes to correct of over-bias caused by the front?
How; what are the alternitives?
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