mike1500

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I don't have a live scan or anything like that, The most I have put my car onto is a OBD2 code scanner.

redramair98

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id have someoen live scan it, and see but hey have htem reprogram it, hopefully it works, but thats news to me i never heard about reprogramming one nor anyone else inlcuding my local dealerhsips, but good luck and pm me when u get it programmed and let me know what happend

redramair98

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could be a comunication problem and the abs might nto even be comunicating with the computer unless u can actually pull up the data

mike1500

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thats what they are telling me, that because the VIN on the ABS unit doesn't match the PCM that it won't communicate..
BTW who can LIVE scan?

redramair98

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any garage with a scanner can put a obd2 scanner and run a live test on it, but unless you know anyone there gona most likely charge 70 to 80 bucs to check it out, but if the stealership guaranteed thats the problem id take it to them let them do there thing, and see what happens im sure they know more then me

mike1500

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Yep, Just hope I'm not being taken advantage of?

armkneez8

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I'm going to the dealership to ask!

mike1500

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Well the dealership didn't say that, a small shop I took it to did. Then I called a few dealerships, most people didn't know what the hell I was talking about, Untill I called a different dealership here (pontiac still) and talked to them the first guy I talked to had to refer me to another and he was able to confirm it...

mike1500

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Armkneez make sure you talk to several people..
The first guy I talked to said " Oh I dont think that would cause the problem.. yad yada ya... bring it in for a $115 diagnostic. "
Beware of the dealership.

.... This crap situation is providing a lot of knowledge.. Pain in the *** but ultimately should benefit all of us.

mike1500

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Any news Armkneez?

armkneez8

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Not yet! Will post when I get some..

redramair98

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well to prove the programing to be wrong i solved my brake problem something realy stupid adn overlooked but none the less its a new abs unit from a complete diferent car, and theres no codes car works perfectly fine and nothing was ever programmed

mike1500

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what was your problem redramair98 maybe its the same in mine?

mike1500

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**UPDATE**
Tonight I hammered my brakes, ABS does work despite the lights.

redramair98

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mine was front brakes locking up, had nothing to do with abs unit even though i changed it solved the problem and the non matching abs unit works fine and no lights are on, live scan it before you keep wasting time and see wat it says,

who281

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ok almost all of yesterday the light was off i dorve for about 20 miles throughout the day and it never came on.. traction control button worked and everything..

got in the car at about midnight it was kinda cold... i drove and the LOW TRAC light came on and everytime i hit even a crack in the road it would come on..

i was driving about 20 mph.. as soon as i hit the main street the ABS inop/ASR off came on... and the brakes stopped working well again.. felt like the fluid was out or something? like i had no brakes..

and at low speed like under 10 when i turn and hit the brakes softly.. like doing a UTURN or coming out of a parking lot.. it SHUTTERS and almost doesnt stop..

and to me thats either air in the lines?
but it seems more like the ABS is screwing up..

i also forgot to mension that my car was in a wreck a while ago.. and the same code was thrown because the ABS sensor/hub were messed up... but i replaced my hub and it is still messed up..

i think ima take it to MTI to get it scanned..

mike1500

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yeah get that looked at man, doesnt sound safe

who281

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what other places have live scan... cause i dono if i wanna drive out to MTI just for that...

would any tire/wheel places or brake places have it?

redramair98

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any decent garage with a obd2 scanner can do it

trez2k3

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Ok, I replaced the abs module with one from a different car and now have abs inop, brake, and service vehicle on. Tcs light went off but i suppose that was because the new module came off a car w/o tcs. I think that tripped the service vehicle light too. I also got it scanned at the dealer who said it was the ebcm (abs module). I guess I'll keep buying 25 dollar modules until I get a good one.