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Old 09-02-2009, 05:02 PM
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Well its simple. I am broke and don't have 2-3k to drop on a 9inch. What is an alternative for a bolt on car that will eventually, like a few years from now, have H/C/I?? id put in a used 10 bolt, but if its just going to break again whats the point, i want a lasting fix that wont break again in 4 months. Also will be wanting to put 410s in it
I am absolutely a newb when it comes to rear ends, and whats better, worse, cheaper, good brand. things like this is when i ask questions. what do you guys suggest? I was going to go over to RPM in Lewisville and ask them what they think, but figured Id get opinions here first
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There are two options that I see. Either save for a 9in and don't drive the car for a few months OR you will have to buy a stock 10 bolt for $100 or so and don't beat on the car too much and then buy a 9 in. a few months down the road.
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ive heard things about a 12 bolt... is this a good idea for a bolt on car?
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the rule of thumb with rear ends is automatic you get a 12 bolt and with a manual get a 9". Not saying that the 12bolt is not enough for a manual its just that the 9" is a little stronger.
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Just save for the 9'', its the ultimate peace of mind. You really shouldn't ever have to worry about it again.
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I would definally suggest not going to RPM unless that your are not ready to pay big bucks. Don't get me wrong RPM is a great shop but they are going to want to go all out on the thing. Call Jason @ TDP he can definally hook you up with a good rear end. Good luck which either way you go.
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Originally Posted by 02ws666
ive heard things about a 12 bolt... is this a good idea for a bolt on car?
You would be fine. LMR has run 7s on a god damn 12 bolt last i checked, so for a bolt on or whatever, a 9 inch is not much stronger than a 12 bolt.

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Just save for the 9'', its the ultimate peace of mind. You really shouldn't ever have to worry about it again.
Bull ****, if someone is serious about a **** ton of power, whoever thinks the 9 inch is the best/strongest, you clearly dont know about a dana 60. I will never pit some ford **** in my car when there is clearly a stronger option. Unless you use the excuse,"I can swap carriers in 30 minutes..." Every ****** i know that sais that ****...never changes the gears out.



Anyway, there are options, spending $ on a 10 bolt can be made to handle power better, but it is in the end pissing in the wind.

There is a Dana 44 that was available for the 3rd gen back in the day. I just sold one, it is a 10 bolt, but it is a 8.5 ring gear, not a ***** 7.5. If you did find one, you could use spacers to retain your wheels, but the brakes are different.

Hold off with a 10 bolt from a LT1 car, they have clutches for the posi, the LS1 torrison seams to break allot more since fear design bangs around in the rear housing. That is just something i personally noticed.

Forget the 4.10s in the 10 bolt as the teeth are so thin the ring and pinion love to break.

From there, save till you can find a deal on a moser or equivalent 12 bolt or even the ford part if you must.

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just stick another 10 bolt into it and slow down your shifting. Save for a 12 bolt or you could always go auto...

For a H/C/I car you do not need a 9inch.

And for Zone.... there is a reason that most GM guys dont use Dana's.
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pay you 100 bucks to put the 10bolt in. then dont beat on it too hard then put in the 9in
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ummm i speak from exp. leave it all stock dont dump the clutch and youll avoid #3 4 and 5
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What are some good places to get a good 12 bolt from?
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Do NOT get a moser!! I have one and wish i had gone with a strange. The bolts for the torque arm will not stay tight. I have tried everything short of tack welding them in place. FWIW my 12 bolt has stood up to 6k+ clutch dumps

Stay away from RPM as well. Call Jason at TDP.
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Originally Posted by HTX

And for Zone.... there is a reason that most GM guys dont use Dana's.
And that is? There are many a GM vehicles that came with a Dana from the factory...

Originally Posted by Pwebbz28
Do NOT get a moser!! I have one and wish i had gone with a strange. The bolts for the torque arm will not stay tight. I have tried everything short of tack welding them in place. FWIW my 12 bolt has stood up to 6k+ clutch dumps
That is just part of it, you have to maintain your car anyways. I check mine once a month, i naver have any issues.
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Originally Posted by Pwebbz28
Do NOT get a moser!! I have one and wish i had gone with a strange. The bolts for the torque arm will not stay tight. I have tried everything short of tack welding them in place. FWIW my 12 bolt has stood up to 6k+ clutch dumps

Stay away from RPM as well. Call Jason at TDP.
I've had my Moser 12-bolt for about 8 years (almost 6 years behind the 427) and NEVER had a problem of the tq arm bolts backing out.

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Originally Posted by ZONES89RS
You would be fine. LMR has run 7s on a god damn 12 bolt last i checked, so for a bolt on or whatever, a 9 inch is not much stronger than a 12 bolt.


Bull ****, if someone is serious about a **** ton of power, whoever thinks the 9 inch is the best/strongest, you clearly dont know about a dana 60. I will never pit some ford **** in my car when there is clearly a stronger option. Unless you use the excuse,"I can swap carriers in 30 minutes..." Every ****** i know that sais that ****...never changes the gears out.


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Kinda contradicting yourself here aren't you? You openly admit that the 9" is stronger, and that 12 bolts are already capable of holding 7 sec passes. Then you turn around and bash the 9" because it may not handle "a **** ton of power". This guy is talking about a H/C/I street car, not a ****** 7 second car, so the 9" should be more than adequate for his use. I never said the 9" was the best or strongest, but its better than the 12 bolt, and for what he is wanting it for, he should have no issues with it. If you dislike ford thats fine (im not the biggest ford fan) but don't bash a quality rearend just because its a ford design.
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ive heard that the 9" rears are dead quiet, and that 12 bolts, if not setup perfectely and depending on gears and such, have a tendency to be noisy.
any truth to this statement guys?
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Originally Posted by ls1n00b
ive heard that the 9" rears are dead quiet, and that 12 bolts, if not setup perfectely and depending on gears and such, have a tendency to be noisy.
any truth to this statement guys?
No noise outta my 9"
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Originally Posted by ls1n00b
ive heard that the 9" rears are dead quiet, and that 12 bolts, if not setup perfectely and depending on gears and such, have a tendency to be noisy.
any truth to this statement guys?
Any rear is noisy if the gears are not set up properly. Also the material of the gears themselves has alot to do with it.

As far are the 12 bolt vs 9" vs s60. Any of them would hold the bolt on power no problem. All of them have their pro's and cons.

And as far as putting a "Ford" part in the cars. Ford didn't design it, they bought the design from another company and they are not the only ones to use that general design. Hell, they don't even use it anymore.

Stick your head under a Toyota truck and look at the rear under it..
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hey guys just wanted to thank you for the opinions. I had Jason at TDP do my clutch and tranny rebuild, and i was pleased with his work. Cheap and got it done fast and it shifts like a dream. I may be calling him soon. Thanks guys.
PS if ne one has his number thatd be great that way i dont have to do a search >.<
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