Might buy my first handgun, input anyone?
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if you are wanting to CC..I highly reccomend the S&W Bodyguard 380 semi..
i have one and its been the easiest gun to conceal..feels good in hand dispite having small grips, it also comes with a built in laser.very managable recoil, and pretty damn accurate to boot for just a small gun...
depending on what you want to spend, I also love the Colt 1911 Defender, which is a small version of the tried and true 1911..you can pick one of those up for arond 8-900 bucks
the S&W Bodygurad can be had for around $350...
i have one and its been the easiest gun to conceal..feels good in hand dispite having small grips, it also comes with a built in laser.very managable recoil, and pretty damn accurate to boot for just a small gun...
depending on what you want to spend, I also love the Colt 1911 Defender, which is a small version of the tried and true 1911..you can pick one of those up for arond 8-900 bucks
the S&W Bodygurad can be had for around $350...
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just suck it up and get a FN Five Seven......just kidding, that's going to be my next gun, but not for CC......I think my dad has a Xd40 compact he's about to sell cheap to get the new Ruger 1911
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Looking around, trying to figure out what I want for my first handgun. I'm not new to handguns in general, just I've never owned my own. May carry it with me from time to time but also have a little fun at the range with it. I've been considering the XDm 40 compact, I've heard good things about the XDs, and it seems like plenty of gun, but not overkill. Probably won't really mod it much so that isn't much of a concern. Anybody have it? Love it? Hate it?
I have many other and far more expensive handguns, but I always go for the P345. If I need smaller, I also have a Ruger 5 shot snub nose revolver with a pocket holster.
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Digging this one back up.
Last year, I got a Glock 19 (Gen 3) for HD. It's a touch big for my wife's hands. We're planning on getting a G23 (Gen 4) also for HD, later this year with the slightly smaller grip. She's handled that, not shot it, but think it's going to be ok.
In the meantime, we've been shooting the G19 and she's developing some bad habits. We're both fairly new to shooting, taught by some friends I trust, and both want to take a course soon. Her big thing is flinching, so we're looking at a .22 primarily for range shooting before getting the G23.
Something lighter and smaller than the Glock compacts, but not micro so that some of the learning will transfer over to the Glocks. Prefer a semi-auto, something just for the range (maaaaaaybe for her to carry later, I know I know, .22 isn't ideal, but somethings better than nothing type of deal). If she really wants to carry later, that's what the G23 is for, or may just get something else in addition to the G23, .380 or something, but either way, thats a few sets of race tires away from now.
Went to Gander Mountain and handled a PPK, but it's all steel and a bit heavier than it looks, so no Bond James Bond for us. Sad me. Sig mosquito was too big (too close to what we already have, don't want 3 near fullsize guns). The Browning Buckmark and old style Rugers (Mark III) are just ugly to me. Didn't really even look at the Taurus because of bad word things on teh internet. Anybody have a reason I should look at Taurus?
They did have a used Walther P22 for $265. It fits nicely. The controls are kinda funky, and it's a DA/SA. If it's just going to be a range gun, it shouldn't be much of an issue. That first pull was stiff. Looked online later and found the Ruger SR22 is similar (tho not the greatest reviews), so may find a range at some point to shoot at least those two, the P22 and SR22.
Any comments on the P22 and SR22 or any other suggestions?
Last year, I got a Glock 19 (Gen 3) for HD. It's a touch big for my wife's hands. We're planning on getting a G23 (Gen 4) also for HD, later this year with the slightly smaller grip. She's handled that, not shot it, but think it's going to be ok.
In the meantime, we've been shooting the G19 and she's developing some bad habits. We're both fairly new to shooting, taught by some friends I trust, and both want to take a course soon. Her big thing is flinching, so we're looking at a .22 primarily for range shooting before getting the G23.
Something lighter and smaller than the Glock compacts, but not micro so that some of the learning will transfer over to the Glocks. Prefer a semi-auto, something just for the range (maaaaaaybe for her to carry later, I know I know, .22 isn't ideal, but somethings better than nothing type of deal). If she really wants to carry later, that's what the G23 is for, or may just get something else in addition to the G23, .380 or something, but either way, thats a few sets of race tires away from now.
Went to Gander Mountain and handled a PPK, but it's all steel and a bit heavier than it looks, so no Bond James Bond for us. Sad me. Sig mosquito was too big (too close to what we already have, don't want 3 near fullsize guns). The Browning Buckmark and old style Rugers (Mark III) are just ugly to me. Didn't really even look at the Taurus because of bad word things on teh internet. Anybody have a reason I should look at Taurus?
They did have a used Walther P22 for $265. It fits nicely. The controls are kinda funky, and it's a DA/SA. If it's just going to be a range gun, it shouldn't be much of an issue. That first pull was stiff. Looked online later and found the Ruger SR22 is similar (tho not the greatest reviews), so may find a range at some point to shoot at least those two, the P22 and SR22.
Any comments on the P22 and SR22 or any other suggestions?
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If I'm not mistaken, the Beretta, XD, and Glock would all require a conversion kit to make them a .22. It's an option since I'm planning to get another Glock and have one already. Would rather not deal with the hassle tho, but it's an option. There are some 1911's out there in .22 tho they tend to be on the heavy side. My wife gets tired holding the G19 out at arms length by the end of the mag. Also, to me there's something plain wrong about a full size shooting .22's with maybe the expection of a Ruger MkIII or similar. I tried not to laugh when the couple next to us last time at the range were shooting their .22 AR's. Yeah, they also had .223 or .3078 AR's with them, and it saves them money etc, but it was still funny.
That's the plan. It's just a bit overwhelming at the counter, so I'm trying to narrow down the ones I'm interested in before we get there. Just wanting to go in and say, I want to shoot the ____ , ____ and ____. Shoot them, pick the best, and buy it. Not just go to shoot a bunch of different ones assuming they have all the 'good' ones, try narrow it down from two dozen to one or two, go home and do research, discover it's make in korea, back to the store etc etc.
That's the plan. It's just a bit overwhelming at the counter, so I'm trying to narrow down the ones I'm interested in before we get there. Just wanting to go in and say, I want to shoot the ____ , ____ and ____. Shoot them, pick the best, and buy it. Not just go to shoot a bunch of different ones assuming they have all the 'good' ones, try narrow it down from two dozen to one or two, go home and do research, discover it's make in korea, back to the store etc etc.
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When i first started shooting I had this problem a little bit. What someone did for me was they would hand me the gun without me knowing if it was loaded or not. When you put the pistol on target someone would put an empty casing on top of the slide. If you jerked or anticipated recoil and it was unloaded you looked like a dummy cause the casing would just fall off. I kept doing this until I wasn't jerking anymore and the loaded shots were hitting right on target. I think it's a good exercise for people starting out worried about recoil or not having proper placement of the trigger finger or not pulling directly back. It helped me anyway.
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Honestly the best way to pick one is to go shoot a bunch. There are so many types of pistols you really don't know what you'll like untill you fire them. You may like SA or DA/SA or DAO. striker fired or hammer. Usually when I go to the range I"ll bs with some people and they'll usually let me shoot a mag or two if i've never shot one before just to test it out.
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When i first started shooting I had this problem a little bit. What someone did for me was they would hand me the gun without me knowing if it was loaded or not. When you put the pistol on target someone would put an empty casing on top of the slide. If you jerked or anticipated recoil and it was unloaded you looked like a dummy cause the casing would just fall off. I kept doing this until I wasn't jerking anymore and the loaded shots were hitting right on target. I think it's a good exercise for people starting out worried about recoil or not having proper placement of the trigger finger or not pulling directly back. It helped me anyway.
I'm hoping jumping down to a .22 will keep her interested in shooting since she's starting to get a bit frustrated with the 9mm.
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The XD doesn't have a .22 conversion. Don't know about the Beretta. Conversions tend to cost close to what a dedicated .22 will cost. My advice for flinching is to get a revolver. Load it and leave some chambers empty. She'll be able to catch herself flinching. You can do the same with a semi by adding snap caps, but you have to cycle them out yourself.
I would take her and let her pick her pistol. Most ranges have rentals you can shoot too. I know of no women that would choose a glock for themselves after handling other pistols. I'm sure there are some, but most have them because thats what her husband bought which isn't ideal. Each person is different. I would also recommend something with a little more weight to reduce felt recoil for her. Check out a Sig P239 with a hogue grip. I have yet to have someone not like that set up. If her arm is getting tired then she needs to work out, or learn to aim quicker.
I'm assuming she is shooting 2 handed. Honestly, there is no reason she can't shoot half filled magazines and not have that issue.
I would take her and let her pick her pistol. Most ranges have rentals you can shoot too. I know of no women that would choose a glock for themselves after handling other pistols. I'm sure there are some, but most have them because thats what her husband bought which isn't ideal. Each person is different. I would also recommend something with a little more weight to reduce felt recoil for her. Check out a Sig P239 with a hogue grip. I have yet to have someone not like that set up. If her arm is getting tired then she needs to work out, or learn to aim quicker.
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I carry a baby Glock 27 .40 with extended mag. as my concealed everyday gun, a Glock 22 .40 as my duty gun, and the .50 Desert Eagle for when the fecal matter hits the oscillator.
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I personally carry an xd9 sub compact daily. It fits my hand perfectly (with the extended mag, it fits my husband if he wants to shoot it for any reason). It is top heavy, so i don't get a lot of muzzle flip when I shoot it. My only con is that overall, it's really heavy for my purses. My solution to that is I leave maybe 5 bullets in it, and then carry an extra mag elsewhere. I've gotten used to having that weight in my purses though and feel weird without it now.
I was also looking into getting a Kahr PM9 for something lighter, but I haven't had a chance to shoot one yet. Just suggesting because I, personally, wouldn't carry anything smaller than a 9mm.
I was also looking into getting a Kahr PM9 for something lighter, but I haven't had a chance to shoot one yet. Just suggesting because I, personally, wouldn't carry anything smaller than a 9mm.
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Here's my 9mm in my Cross Breed Supertuck holster.
You guys really like the Cross Breed? I have one and never really warmed up to it, it always dug into my back when I was driving. Any suggestions?
For the last several few months i've been carrying a Taurus SLIM 9mm with a Kangaroo Carry holster, super comfortable and it hardly ever prints. Which is huge for me, I'm a skinny guy and don't care for baggy clothes.
Here's my 9mm in my Cross Breed Supertuck holster.
For the last several few months i've been carrying a Taurus SLIM 9mm with a Kangaroo Carry holster, super comfortable and it hardly ever prints. Which is huge for me, I'm a skinny guy and don't care for baggy clothes.
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My mistake for even mentioning the slight possibility of using it as a carry gun later on, but thanks for the woman's POV.
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