edub80

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Man I'm really not joking.... gforce is who told me that I was only getting 60-70% throttle... thats why I had to get a new throttle body ....

Bad Chad

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Mark, he was not joking about that. The TB he had on the car someone cut the lower part of the throttle arm there for his cable was in the upper hole instead of the lower hole. GForce can confirm that...

ppp

Was it ran on th same dyno as before? If you're comparing a loaded dyno for the stock numbers vs a non loaded dyno for the "450" ( which would probably be like 410 on a loaded dyno), or visa versa,that may explain the difference

edub80

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Ok i see your point on the dyno theory... I made 317 HP with bolt ons on a different dyno a yr ago.... so if I'm making 400hp now ( just saying).... then that's 80hp difference....80hp gained me 3 tenths at the track.... I don't think that's right... and before gforce tuned it with a fd up TB it ran a tenth faster even on the DA CALCULATOR.... atleast my car has a great driveability tune on it... LOL

SS SLP2

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cut your 60 ft down and more stall and you will be happy
Johnny

Charlie Hustle

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Are you able to foot brake any higher than the 1200-1300?

edub80

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Yea I can but from trying different stalling Rpms the sweet spot was as a bolton car was around 1300... but it might have changed with the new setup... only made 3 passes after the tune ..

Charlie Hustle

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In my old 01 Ws6, I had a Vig 3200 stall and full exhaust. I was able to stall up to about 2000 rpms, and dead hook. I would consitantly cut 1.7 60' times. Im sure if you stall a bit higher, you will drop that 60 by at least 2-3 tenths which will result in some mid to low 11's. Good Luck

edub80

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I was cutting 1.7 all day as a bolton car... now I'm 1.8s lol... more power should lower times across the board regardless

Charlie Hustle

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I agree.

ppp

Have you talked with gforce? What are they saying? Surely they could offer some sort of reasoning.... After all, they tuned it. JS

edub80

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Yes and they are saying its the heat???????

Robert@G-Force

Baytown Temp on 4/21/12 Density Altitude: 1107 feet

Temperature
Minimum Temperature
57.0 °F

Mean Temperature
63.6 °F

Maximum Temperature
72.7 °F

Baytown Temp 6/1/12 Density Altitude: 2220 feet

Temperature
Minimum Temperature
72.9 °F

Mean Temperature
80.4 °F

Maximum Temperature
87.6 °F

Between the 2 night when you raced there was a 1100 ft DA difference.

SSHAWK

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I have to ask this but... In your tune is it set to lock the converter in 3?? And if so do you feel it locking when it shifts into 3rd?

If not then you’re not at the 1 to 1 and you're not at 450hp you would be at the unlocked hp #'s whatever that might be. Do you know what the unlocked Hp numbers are and if so please post up..

From someone that races a lot to someone that doesn't you don't understand how much weather plays apart of this... I'm not saying something not right with the car just don't be so quick to rule that out ..

That's could do it!!

edub80

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Hey Robert.... I didn't run at baytown in April....I ran in diboll ,tx at pine valley raceway

Robert@G-Force

OK I checked the DA at Pinevalley was 1103 feet on 4/21 so still about the same.

SSHAWK

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http://www.dragtimes.com/da-density-...t+Weather+Data

What time did you make your pass?

Time Temperature Humidity Pressure
12:53 AM 55.9 F 80 % 29.92 in
1:15 AM 55.4 F 77 % 29.92 in
1:53 AM 55.9 F 75 % 29.92 in
2:53 AM 55.9 F 72 % 29.90 in
3:16 AM 55.4 F 72 % 29.91 in
3:53 AM 54.0 F 77 % 29.91 in
4:12 AM 53.6 F 77 % 29.91 in
4:53 AM 53.1 F 80 % 29.91 in
5:53 AM 53.1 F 77 % 29.91 in
6:53 AM 53.1 F 77 % 29.92 in
7:53 AM 54.0 F 75 % 29.94 in
8:53 AM 55.0 F 69 % 29.95 in
9:53 AM 59.0 F 62 % 29.97 in
10:10 AM 60.8 F 59 % 29.98 in
10:53 AM 61.0 F 58 % 29.98 in
11:53 AM 64.9 F 52 % 29.98 in
12:53 PM 68.0 F 47 % 29.96 in
1:53 PM 70.0 F 44 % 29.95 in
2:53 PM 72.0 F 38 % 29.94 in
3:53 PM 73.9 F 33 % 29.93 in
4:53 PM 73.9 F 29 % 29.92 in
5:53 PM 73.0 F 31 % 29.92 in
6:53 PM 71.1 F 32 % 29.93 in ---- It was

Density Altitude: 1103 feet
Relative Density: 96.81 %

7:53 PM 66.0 F 42 % 29.94 in
8:53 PM 61.0 F 54 % 29.96 in
9:53 PM 55.9 F 67 % 29.98 in
10:53 PM 54.0 F 77 % 29.99 in
11:53 PM 53.1 F 80 % 30.00 in

Mike TexaSS

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Pine Valley Density Altitude: 1103 feet Baytown was almost 2300 ft.


You said you did 1.7 60fts before. This last trip you did a 1.8 60ft. 1 tenth in 60ft is worth at least 2 t0 2.5 tenths in overall ET.

You car made 453 rwhp with a locked converter. And around 430ish unlocked with a cold engine.

Did you run it cold or put a bunch of heat in it in the staging lanes? What RPM is it shifting at 6400-6500? There are a lot of different things that can effect ET. I will gladly put it back on the dyno and redyno if you wish. No tricks or secerts here!

SSHAWK

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edub80 ????

NVM GForce replied with it..

edub80

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my last pass that day was around 330. see if that matches ur da calculator